[blam]

Works for me.

[blam]

Cheddar Man

[Illbay]

Gene scientists claim to have found proof that the Welsh are the "true" Britons.

???

[Joan912]

very interesting...

[Illbay]

The researchers concluded the most likely explanation for this was a large-scale Anglo-Saxon invasion, which devastated the Celtic population of England, but did not reach Wales.

I guess I'm stupid. I thought this was the way it worked all along. I didn't realize it was a controversy.

FWIW, I think now the Welsh need to go to the ICC, and sue the English for "reparations."

Mr. Jones can say "Awroit, we'll taik London, Birmin'am, Mawnchestah and Yo'k. Yew c'n stay in the othah places if yews behave y'selves..."

[keithtoo]

I've read in many places that the descendants of the Irish and the Scots migrated from the Middle East (Anatolia/Turkey) thru Spain and wound up in the British Isles, starting in the BC era. This would seem to agree with the genetic link between the Welsh, the Scots/Irish and the Basque's of Spain.

Also, the ancient name for Spain is Iberia and the ancient name for Scotland and Ireland is Hibernia. The phonetic similarity is not by accident.

The similarities dont end there either.

The ancient Gaelic language of Scotland and Ireland seems to come from the original Gallic language of Gaul in southern Europe and Galatia, where the Gauls established colonies in Turkey as mercenaries for the Roman empire. You may recall St. Paul's book to the Galatians as a biblical reference to these people.

It's always interesting to see how these items tie together.

[Minutes]

Aren't we told there are NO differences between races, especially white and black..... now they're saying there are differences between Welsh and English..... hmmm

[LRS]

The Anglo-Saxons should be forced to abandon the occupied territories at once!

[chilepepper]

Ay Cymru.

I am not a mere Celt, I am a Pict!

[muawiyah]

As the Anglo-Saxon ethnic cleansing proceeded, a large body of Britons set sail under the leadership of four primary lords and landed in an otherwise depopulated Brittany. Another large body of Britons from Cornwall sailed due South to Galiza. This was under a different lord who became known as King San Cho Noe I. He took over Carvajal (Kingdom of McWallace) and founded Castile and Leon.

Leastwise that's been my understanding from our history as portrayed in the King Arthur stories.

Interesting that this genetic study demonstrates their truthfulness.

(NOTE: Regarding "King Arthur", that's just the masculine form of "Boudicca" or "Boadicea". Although this name is usually translated as "victorious", it is clearly a phrase made up of "bo" or "bo", "u" or "a" or "au", "dic" and "ca". "Bo" is just another Celtic honorific, as in Mc, Mac and O'. It's not used often these days. "A", "U", or "AU" is clearly a Gaelic name cognate to "Arthur". "Dic" is clearly the root Indo-European for "king" or "queen". "Ca" makes it all feminine, as in "queen".

The "King Arthur" stories might more properly be called "Annals of the Kings of Briton".)

[jordan8]

BRITS OUT OF BRITAIN!

signed
Welsh Republican Army

[IronJack]

Sounds like the Welsh are due reparations.

[dr_who]

Maybe Tony Blair will put all those Welshmen on reservations and allow them to set up casinos.

[dr_who]

It reinforced the idea that the Welsh were the true indigenous Britons.

Actually, according to Winston Churchill, the roundheaded people were driven out by the longheaded people who were into making nasty weapons out of steel instead of copper or something like that. Anyway, I'll betcha those Welsh aren't the true indigenous Britons either. They all need to shove off and go back to where they came, the whole lot of them.

[PoisedWoman]

It suggests that between 50% and 100% of the indigenous population of what was to become England was wiped out, with Offa's Dyke acting as a "genetic barrier" protecting those on the Welsh side

Reporting in from Left Coast chapter, Welsh Reparations Committee. I'm not sure who Offa's Dyke was, LOL! but I'm glad she/it protected us Welsh persons from contamination.

Fiddlstx, let's launch a claim to get out castle back! From there, we can take back London. Tomorrow, the world!

[Fzob]

I Welshman once told me that the Irish are actually Welshman that could swim. Perhaps he wasn't joking after all.

[Myrddin]

Cymru am bydd! My family hails from Llanfihangel y Creuddyn near Aberystwyth in Wales. The name "Wales" derives from the Latin "waleas" or foreigners. The Welsh referred to themselves as "cymru" or friends. The foreigners were the Anglo-Saxons and Roman army invaders. The mountains on the east protected the Welsh from invasions from the east. The rocky coastline prevented assaults from the sea. The Welsh retreated to the mountains to avoid assaults by land.

Before the advent of modern "B" roads in Wales, the valley where my family resided would have been only accessible by foot or pack animal. It is still difficult to access today.

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

Celtic Britain underwent a form of ethnic cleansing by Anglo-Saxons invaders ...

Ok when do we start bombing London until that evil despot Blair and his henchmen allow free elections. ;-)

[CaptRon]

In the book The Story of English they make the point that the Welsh and the people of Normandy can make themselves understood with either of them speaking the others' language. How does this figure in?

[Woodkirk]

So the Welsh are Rare Brits -- Welsh Rarebrits ??

[LostTribe]

Nothing new here.  Every so often the BBC has another one of their "revelations".

The problem is, the Brits still can't decide on the definition of a "Celt".  If you go there to study the subject, as I have, you will be alternately amused and appalled at their "Anglo-Provincialism".  Many British scholars still think the Celts are those "smaller and darker" people who live in Cornwall and Wales.  (It turns out they are just the offspring of shipwrecked sailors from the Med area who hit the rocks off Penzance, over thousands of years.  There has long been heavy ship traffic between the regions.)

Then, hop over the little pond to Ireland and see what they have to say about Celts.  It's entirely different. To the man on the street "Celtic" means "Catholic", as in the Holy Celtic Church.  They are seen differently at the Universities too.

But it's only when you back off and take a continent size, or better a global historical view that you see who the Celts really are. Click on my FR Profile, below for their REAL history.