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Atheism is stupid
Self | 6-28-02 | Matt Festa

Posted on 06/27/2002 9:54:14 PM PDT by Festa

Atheism is stupid---and has no foundation in science

"The only atheism is the denial of truth." Arthur Lynch

If one were to listen to the media, science and religion cannot go hand in hand. Science inevitably proves God cannot exist. Darwin and his crowd showed how life evolved from a simple organism into a complex series of rational animals which were able to organize themselves and think beyond anything else in the universe. But atheist’s and their elite allies have it all backwards: Science does not refute God, it proves God. Atheism is the stupid, unthinking and illogical way. God is logical, thinking, and makes sense. Let’s prove it.

The foundation of all life is contained in microscopic detailed instructions that thinking individuals can act on logically. DNA and/or RNA are these specific instructions upon which all information for a life form is based upon. In order to think logically a problem must first be presented:

I give you a one celled organism. First, I want you to assemble the ribosomes so that they can properly interpret the DNA. Now make the amino acids (CH2 for the laymen which is a part of the carboxyl group COOH). Seriously, go get the material. Devise a means by which these ribosomes and amino acids only act at a specified time without error to create an organism. (No not a human, just a simple organism). Now make sure that the cells can properly replicate themselves without fail and sustain themselves. Then watch it develop into a human.

“Ok so where is the dilemma” you ask. Here. I want you to do this, without intelligent thought at any point. You see something go wrong, you can’t interfere. Whether that means hiring a monkey to randomly type at the keyboard for billions of years. Do not enter a goal for the computer. Phrases like “create life” or “make a living organism” are forbidden. Simply set it up, press start and watch.

Wait! But this experiment will not work. There is no way that these organisms randomly developed on accident. I know. Sorry, find a way around it. Have you solved the problem that has taken mankind centuries to even touch upon? Ok, now subject your experiment to climate and other “x” factors and see what happens then.

Didn’t work? Thanks for helping to prove the existence of god. Oh, it did work? Thanks for helping prove the existence of God. You did help to change the code into a readable form. That required intelligent thought.

You see, atheism is actually stupid when it is thought out logically. The foundational problems inherit in creating any simple organism that it is simply impossible that a random accident caused it. Atheism is an untenable and stupid position because it says precisely that: it was all just a random accident.

Genius scientists such as Albert Einstein and Sir Isaac Newton all believed in the existence of God. (For the laymen out their, Einstein invented the theory of relativity and Sir Isaac Newton invented physics and Calculus (Yes an entire complex form of mathematics’ barely even touched upon until college: and even then only pathetically.) Atheists like to gloss over this fact. They also like to claim that religions are fanatical because they refuse to accept evolution into their teaching. This is a complete lie. The Catholic Church (along with many others) say that evolution is completely kosher with its teachings. No, atheism is fanatical because it simply refuses to recognize an inherit problem in science and since it cannot prove it, it refuses to use logic to explain it. They have not a single shred of evidence to prove their case.

The idea that scientists in general reject God because they are “smart” is the most absurd and indefensible argument ever heard. Sure there were some. But they didn’t think hard enough. For all the great things Darwin did, he was never a philosopher. He asked the question once (paraphrased) that some people are so dull as to think that everything was not created by a random accident, because to think such a thing is illogical. EXACTLY. Sir. Thomas Aquinas noted this almost centuries before Darwin, and said precisely, “it is illogical to think such a thing.”

It is.

If the earth was one degree more off its axis, we would have no seasons. If there were no Himalayan mountains, there could be no agriculture. If we were just a bit more close to the sun, life would be untenable. If there was a bit more nitrogen in the air, say bye bye. To believe that all of this was a random accident is an absurd blind leap of faith because it has no basis in fact, thought, or reasoning. It is more than fanatical belief.

What is even scarier is that these are the smart atheists. God help the dumb ones. Atheists try and claim the high ground when they have no basis to do such a thing. They rant about how they are being mistreated when they have to listen to “under god” during prayer when they haven’t even begun to think about whether or not He exists.

What are we hear for if not a purpose? Is everything simply a random accident? Fine, then I am stealing your 100 dollars. Why? Because I can and if I am smart enough, I can get away without any punishment. Hitler sure got away with a lot. How fair is it that in the end we both end up in the same way: as dust. Scary isn’t it. But this is the belief system of the atheists.

Atheism is an untenable and fanatical position. Many atheists are so blind they are blinded as to what they are blinded about. The next time you come across an atheist do two things, one ask him to use his brain a little more. Two, pray for him. Pray not because he doesn’t have a religion, but pray because his has one.


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1 posted on 06/27/2002 9:54:15 PM PDT by Festa
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To: Festa
Atheism is stupid

You're right - I sat next to it in 11th grade trig, copied all its answers on the final - and failed!

2 posted on 06/27/2002 9:57:31 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Festa
Hitler was a believer.
3 posted on 06/27/2002 10:03:35 PM PDT by Misterioso
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To: Festa
"The next time you come across an atheist do two things, one ask him to use his brain a little more. Two, pray for him. Pray not because he doesn’t have a religion, but pray because his has one."

What kind of moronic crap is this? Arrogance doesn't suit you, junior.

4 posted on 06/27/2002 10:06:07 PM PDT by Honcho Bongs
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To: Festa
This is senseless.
5 posted on 06/27/2002 10:06:12 PM PDT by Bogey78O
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To: Festa
The more one knows of science - especially physics (which covers all fields) - the more one should see the hand of God in everything.

Yes, atheism is an indicator of ignorance in people. Self importance also. By the same token, when one religion says that their God is the ONLY true God also shows ignorance. Islam isn't the only organized religion that tries to make such a claim. Why can't humankind understand that belief in a God - whether you call that superior being God, or Allah, or JuJu Bean for that matter - still shows faith of some form? To kill someone because they believe in only their version of God is the ultimate sin, and the ultimate affront to religion. Hello Islam, can you understand that?

7 posted on 06/27/2002 10:16:23 PM PDT by 11B3
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To: Festa
The problem with all of these proofs for the existence of God is that they build this nice box and then tell you the only way out of the box is to accept God as the Creator. Now lets try your game, I want you to prove how God did it, not just state that he did as your conclusion and offer it as the answer as if already self evident. All that you have offered is that you find it easier to believe that God Created the Universe than that it spontaneously developed, a position I might agree with, but that is not the same as proving that your alternative is the only possibility.

Suppose that the whole Universe is not the physical Universe that you perceive but merely a reflection of different forms of energy interacting and what you think is reality has no more real substance than your dreams. Now all of the problems that you identified don’t exist.

Since a God Capable of creating the Universe is more complex than the Universe that we perceive, how is it more likely that God and the Universe exits than that the Universe exits by it self?

8 posted on 06/27/2002 10:25:36 PM PDT by One More Time
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To: Senator Pardek
I suppose there are few, if any, who haven't thought about atheism and what it means.Voltair said, "If you wish to converse with me, define your terms." So I thought about that for a while and came up with what seems like a definition of atheism.

Atheism says, "I've looked everywhere that God might be hiding simultaenously and I have not found Him." Now, it must be simultaenously, because otherwise He may be here when I'm looking there, or there while I'm looking in the other direction.

Somehow this dog would not hunt. How could I, just a man, be everywhere at one time, instantaneously, so as to not have God escape being detected by me by being somewhere else?

Doesn't make a helluva lot of sense, does it? Atheists have to be very fast or have some other agenda. Somehow the latter seems most likely.

9 posted on 06/27/2002 10:25:52 PM PDT by Adrastus
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To: Festa
There are two kinds of atheists:

(1.) Those who believe there is no God because nobody has been able to convince them otherwise as yet.

(2.) Those who flat swear there is no God and have their minds firmly made up on the subject.

It is the latter version who is militant and trying the hardest to cause the most trouble, while the former merely wants to be left alone. Combined, they are STILL in the vast MINORITY and isn't the United States of America supposed to be about MAJORITY RULE?

10 posted on 06/27/2002 10:26:39 PM PDT by Wondervixen
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To: Misterioso
Hitler wasn't a believer in Christianty. It has been proven on more than one occasion that he was into...other stuff.

First and Second things

11 posted on 06/27/2002 10:29:23 PM PDT by JMJ333
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To: theprogrammer
The only tenable position is that of the true agnostic, who simply says that there is no way of either proving or disproving the existence of God

Well said, thank you.

12 posted on 06/27/2002 10:32:01 PM PDT by Aracelis
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To: theprogrammer
The only tenable position is that of the true agnostic, who simply says that there is no way of either proving or disproving the existence of God and therefore has no opinion on the matter.

I came to the same realization in college. I would say, "Amen", but that's not appropriate in this case.

13 posted on 06/27/2002 10:46:28 PM PDT by rustbucket
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To: Misterioso
Only in himself- he cited evolutionism as the justification for the eradication of the Jews, the Polish, the Rom (gypsies), etc. He was NOT a Christian.
14 posted on 06/27/2002 11:08:36 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Festa
I am a dedicated "non-theist". That is to say that I do not subscribe to any of the world religions. I've looked into them, I've wanted to join and become "one of the flock", but every time I run up into questions that don't make sense to me and that there are no answers to.

Do me a favor, will you? Get together with the preachers, the rabbis, the ministers, the Buddhists, the Hindi's and the Muslims, and come to some agreement on what it is I'm supposed to worship. In the meantime I'm just doing my best to get through each day. I'm just not smart enough to figure out God, the Universe and Everything, and I don't think that ANY religion out there has figured it out either. I guess that makes me "stupid".

That having been said, I don't understand that "athiest" who sued to have the pledge of allegance tossed out of public schools. What a twit. Who peed in his Wheaties?

15 posted on 06/27/2002 11:15:30 PM PDT by Billy_bob_bob
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To: Festa
I always ask an atheist if he or she believes in truth, goodness, or love, power, wisdom, intelligence, knowledge, sound, nature, law.....They always say "yes."
Our Creator of the Universe is all the above and has many clear aspects, is within creation, and knowable, while remaing unfathomable beyond creation.
"God" is but one of the many scriptural names of the omniscient and omnipresent Creator.
Any reasonable person should be comfortable "under God" by any "name."
16 posted on 06/27/2002 11:49:24 PM PDT by Getting there
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To: LiteKeeper
All I said was that he was a believer. Are you saying he was an atheist? I've understood otherwise. However, if you have more information about his beliefs, please enlighten me.
17 posted on 06/28/2002 2:57:35 AM PDT by Misterioso
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To: theprogrammer
The agnostic merely takes it on faith that there is no way to determine if God exists or not, since he admits that he cannot know. Agnosticism is faith-based and mealy-mouthed.

At least a believer in God takes a position and stands by it.

18 posted on 06/28/2002 3:03:36 AM PDT by Misterioso
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To: Festa
How does your post qualify as News/Activism?
19 posted on 06/28/2002 3:05:54 AM PDT by Misterioso
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To: Festa
I heard an analogy once that DNA constructed by accident would be like a tornado hitting an aircraft spare parts factory and blowing together a fully functioning 747! I sure atheists have a perfectly logical explanation for this.
20 posted on 06/28/2002 3:07:12 AM PDT by Colosis
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