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Malls see arrests by FBI, INS
Pensacola News Journal ^ | 06/27/02 | Brett Norman/Sean Smith

Posted on 06/27/2002 1:15:20 PM PDT by AmusedBystander

Edited on 05/07/2004 6:09:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

At least three men reportedly were taken into federal custody in two Pensacola malls as the FBI and the federal Immigration and Naturalization Service initiated a nationwide sweep Wednesday.

Witnesses said plain-clothes agents closed Intrigue jewelry vendors at Cordova and University malls, Wild Things at University and possibly other shops.


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I guess INS is doing more around the country than we hear about in the national press.
1 posted on 06/27/2002 1:15:20 PM PDT by AmusedBystander
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To: AmusedBystander
We are.
2 posted on 06/27/2002 1:18:12 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Sabertooth
Heads up!
3 posted on 06/27/2002 1:19:52 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Marine Inspector
Thanks. It only makes sense you would care as much or more about this place than we do, but it's H.E.L.L. not knowing for sure if this is being taken care of. Actually, everything is going as I hoped it would -- quiet, but certain. Big XX's and OO's to the entire team protecting this country.
4 posted on 06/27/2002 1:24:04 PM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
Your welcome and thank you for your kind words.

Things are moving slowly forward. We've got a long road ahead of us, but the administration is slowly letting the LEO's off the leash.

5 posted on 06/27/2002 1:29:54 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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come resolve the way to yesterday's Target Post, you're not out of the running yet
win your registration fees to the FRive Las Vegas Conference if you dare

6 posted on 06/27/2002 1:32:27 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Miss Marple
Thanks for the flag. While this is encouraging, the following stood out...
Witnesses said the three men in handcuffs appeared to be of Middle Eastern or South Asian descent.

Bill Hurlburt, an FBI spokesman from the regional Jacksonville office, said that "the only thing the Department of Justice has authorized in terms of a statement is that this activity is part of a joint investigation between the Immigration and Naturalization Service and the FBI, and there will be no further comment since the investigation is ongoing."

A Justice Department spokesman, who refused to be identified, said the roundup had nothing to do with concerns about possible Fourth of July terrorism but was related to immigration violations.

I don't think the FBI is generally called in on routine immigration violations. The fact that these guys were Middle Eastern or South Asian makes this smell like a terror investigation... in Pensacola! No surprise there.

Yes, it's always a good thing any time we get some bad guys. But this story doesn't appear to reveal any serious activity by the FedGov to end their virtual non-enforcement of most of the violations of our immigration laws, by the vast majority of Illegals who continue to merrily colonize our country.



7 posted on 06/27/2002 1:33:11 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Marine Inspector
Thanks!
8 posted on 06/27/2002 1:36:55 PM PDT by Chi-Town Lady
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To: Sabertooth
About 75% of the Immigration violators that the INS gets in the terror sweeps have nothing to do with terror and end up getting deported.

While 80% of the INS investigators are currently concentrating on the terror sweeps, the other 20% are currently working smuggling cases and are catching many illegals also.

Over all, the apprehensions are up, compared to the 9 month period prior to 9/11.

9 posted on 06/27/2002 1:40:26 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Marine Inspector
Good to see you on the job. I hope that soon you will have some new superiors who will be inclined to give you and your co-workers all the resources you'll need to do your jobs better.

I've noted on another thread that although G.W. Bush has made a lot of public noise about being soft on immigration, from what I've seen of his actions it looks like he is actually inclined to put some teeth into our laws concerning people who are here illegally.

If my choice is between someone who does nothing about immigration while proclaiming their opposition to it, or someone who proclaims their support of immigration while taking action to limit it, I'll take the latter choice, thank you.

Good Grief, I just might even end up voting for the guy next time around.

10 posted on 06/27/2002 1:40:35 PM PDT by Billy_bob_bob
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To: Chi-Town Lady
Your welcome.
11 posted on 06/27/2002 1:40:58 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Billy_bob_bob
Thank you.

GWB is soft on Mexico, which accounts for 3/4 of the illegals in the country, and that’s the major problem. As long as he is soft on Mexico, the terrorist have an open door into the US.

12 posted on 06/27/2002 1:45:29 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Marine Inspector
I'm glad.

Still, bringing the FBI to get three Middle Eastern and South Asian guys in Pensacola strikes one as not exactly routine... no?



13 posted on 06/27/2002 1:45:39 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Sabertooth
It's part of the terrorist sweeps.
14 posted on 06/27/2002 1:47:13 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Sabertooth
Simon Malls is a key. I wil bet you that they did sweeps all over the country. Simon is based here in Indy. They own Mall of America, 4 big malls here in Indy, and lots more.

I will see what I can find out locally and report back to this thread.

By the way, there was some interesting stuff in the Washington Times this morning buried in an article about the Immigration Guy saying that we needed to care for illegals (which is ok with me as long as when we are done caring for them we ship them home). Fox is apparently trying to discourage some of the illegals, or is at least feeling like he needs to appear to do so. That is a little bit of progress.

15 posted on 06/27/2002 1:51:23 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
interesting stuff in the Washington Times this morning buried in an article about the Immigration Guy saying that we needed to care for illegals

Link here: Top agent says U.S. must care for illegals
16 posted on 06/27/2002 1:55:22 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Miss Marple
Simon Malls is a key. I wil bet you that they did sweeps all over the country. Simon is based here in Indy. They own Mall of America, 4 big malls here in Indy, and lots more.

I'd say there's a decent chance these Pensacloa boys have 9/11 connections... or maybe anthrax at American Media.

Fox is apparently trying to discourage some of the illegals, or is at least feeling like he needs to appear to do so. That is a little bit of progress.

Well, he saw what happened to Section 245(i) this Spring. He's been talking lately about nothing happening on "normalization" of status for Illegals until next year. Hmmm... that would be after November. I don't trust him at all.




17 posted on 06/27/2002 1:57:35 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: TomGuy
Mr. Aguilar is on of the folks that needs to go. He's a Clinton scum.
18 posted on 06/27/2002 1:58:01 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Marine Inspector
Keep up the good work. Thank you for your efforts to keep us safe, encouraged, and informed. Best of luck to you and your people in the weeks and months ahead.
19 posted on 06/27/2002 2:02:34 PM PDT by SandfleaCSC
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To: Sabertooth
Nothing in the Indianapolis paper. I called the paper and gave them the URL for the Pensacola paper and told them they should check it out.

Now I am having to do my own reporting!

20 posted on 06/27/2002 2:03:00 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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