"THAT which you believe"---"An open letter to Republicans"

6/23/02 | redrock

[redrock]

Oooppss...see #160.....

redrock

[ImpBill]

/;-)

Actually what I am reading on this thread and others is not that we need to compromise on important issues, but rather there is only ONE real important issue.

Principles be damned, the only issue is the aquisition and maintenance of political power.

All those campaign issues are just that, only good for the campaigns. "Once we have power, we can do whatever we please", seems to be the political realities we are being encouraged to adopt.

Well my friend, I am not part of that "we" any longer. I liked our principled role as "loyal opposition" much better than I "selling principle" for power.

It looks as if the close numbers in the last Presidential Election are being used to make conservatism look more like liberalism and therefore get a larger base of support. The problem is and many here, without stating it, are having a hard time defining what they support, other than getting and keeping office.

[Brownie74]

Thanks for the ping. I have said it before and I will say it again. I put America first and the party second. If a little green person from Mars is the best candidate then he, she, or it will get my vote next time. No more of this Bush is the lesser of two evils. I fell for that once but never again.

[thrcanbonly1]

"This is free ground. All the way from here to the Pacific Ocean. No man has to bow. No man born to royalty. Here we judge you by what you do, not by who your father was. Here you can be something. Here's a place to build a home. It isn't the land--there's always more land. It's the idea that we all have value, you and me, we're worth something more than the dirt. I never saw dirt I'd die for, but I'm not asking you to come join us and fight for dirt. What we're all fighting for, in the end, is each other."

"As long as a hundred of us remain alive we will never be subject to tyrannical domination, because it is not for glory or for riches or honours that we fight, but for freedom alone which no worthy man loses except with his life."

Taken from the “Declaration of Arbroath” 1320

It is hot here and I'm hella thirsty. Think I'll go for a beer, shoot some pool and make some (illegal gambling) money.

I'm sure this thread will still be going strong when I get back. cya later

[blackie]

You're welcome friend...
I'm here to serve...

Freedom Is Worth Fighting For !!

Molon Labe !!

~b~

[NMC EXP]

"Principles be damned, the only issue is the aquisition and maintenance of political power."

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That says it all.

Regards

J.R.

[redrock]

Col. Joshua Chamberlain....to the men of the 2nd Maine on the eve of the Battle of Gettysburg.

redrock

P.S....more can be fround HERE

[redrock]

"Sadly, for our Constitution and the memory of our Founding Fathers for their constant wariness and vivid warnings to us as mere citizens towards those who reach powerful positions in government, these Congress dudes have seemingly made career preservation their primary oath of office."

But...how to change the system???

Except by voting with our hearts and our souls....

redrock

p.s. Really nice to 'see' ya!!!!!

[redrock]

Actually..it's an open invitation for all of us to 'talk'.....nothing more.

redrock

[redrock]

"You thread on dangerous grounds when you dismiss anyone and everyone who doesn't think like you do as being brainwashed, or when you argue that the choices free people make when advancing their political ideology are wrong."

Remember this...it's a very good point.

redrock

p.s...BTW..your old man was pretty much like mine.

[redrock]

"....unafraid to use Conservative language. The best part was that he VOTED his beliefs."

One of my main beefs...about the current crop of 'conservative' politicians.

redrock

[redrock]

Thanks...that goes into my 'saved' file.

Heinlein was/is the best.

redrock

[DoughtyOne]

New England, the writeoff states.

[DoughtyOne]

I had thought Susan Collins had more sense than that.

[jwh_Denver]

It's so sad the Republican Party is dead, and who cares right, I mean they just a bunch of commies in sheep skin anyway. So I guess I'll just vote for Pat B. or another Ross P. maybe I'll switch it up this time and vote Libertarian and then when all the Dems are in office then they'll see, those bad horrible Republicans will really feel it then. Oops but I can't say that anymore because then I'm talking against the The United Socialist States of America, the new government. But hey I stood up for my rights.......didn't I?

From the wishy washy moderate to the strict Constitutionalist the only common ground we have is we no longer have the luxury of voting what we stand for but AGAINST that which is our common enemy. As much as this sucks, this is the way it is. You could have 4,000 threads trying to figure out what we have in common and they'll all end up like this one - no common ground. Until we all see that we all have a common enemy, that is our common ground.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

AAAAAA-MEN!

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Lets hear some names of violators and their crimes so that we may act!

I'd list all 78 million of these people, but I must go to bed soon...

[gunshy]

Good post, excellent questions. I am dying to read the reponses you're going to get.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Check out post 20.

HA!

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Howdy.