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Mixed reaction in Texas to Supreme Court decision - Regarding ban on executing mentally retarded
Associated Press ^ | June 20, 2002 | Associated Press Staff

Posted on 06/20/2002 3:01:56 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP


Mixed reaction in Texas to Supreme Court decision

06/20/2002

Associated Press

AUSTIN - Supporters of a ban on executing the mentally retarded in Texas were jubilant Thursday after a divided U.S. Supreme Court ruled that such executions are unconstitutionally cruel.

Opponents, meanwhile, initially reacted with silence, saying they needed more time to review the high court decision.

"I'm elated," said state Sen. Rodney Ellis, a Houston Democrat who last year filed a bill to ban the execution of the mentally retarded in Texas that was vetoed by Republican Gov. Rick Perry.

Ellis told The Associated Press that he planned to file the exact same piece of legislation in January and believed it would again pass both chambers in light of Thursday's high court ruling.

"Just as we don't execute children in this country or in this state, we ought not execute someone who has the mind of a child," Ellis said.

Neither Perry or state Attorney General John Cornyn immediately commented.

"This is great news. It's a milestone in narrowing the use of capital punishment in this country," said Jim Harrington, director of the Texas Civil Rights Project. "It will have a great impact on how we administer the death penalty in Texas."

Texas is one of 20 states that allowed the execution of the retarded before the high court ruling.

The ruling means that in the future, people arrested for a killing will not face a potential death sentence if they can show they are retarded, generally defined as having an IQ of 70 or lower.

The court left it to states to develop their own systems to ensure that mentally retarded people are not executed.

Perry vetoed a bill last year that would have allowed a jury to determine during a trial's punishment phase whether a defendant was mentally retarded. If so, the sentence would have been life in prison.

Under that bill, if the jury found a person was not mentally retarded, a defense attorney could petition the judge to consider the issue. Two experts would be assigned to make a determination. If the evidence showed the person to be mentally retarded, the judge would be required to issue a life sentence.

Perry said the bill took too much power away from the jury and gave it to the judge.

After his veto last June, Perry said he believed Texas statute would stand even if the Supreme Court banned the execution of the mentally retarded.

"We do not allow for the execution of the mentally retarded today," Perry said at the time.

That was an argument Ellis said he expected will linger.

"There are some who will say we don't executive the mentally retarded now. Well, my question would be, 'why would you be opposed to a ban on it then?'," Ellis said. "We need to get this issue behind us and not try to deny reality."

Current Texas law says a jury must decide if a defendant is competent to stand trial, including whether the defendant can aid in his own defense, and whether a defendant was insane, unable to distinguish right from wrong, when the crime was committed.

Jurors also can consider retardation as a mitigating circumstance during sentencing.

The Texas Department of Criminal Justice did not immediately know many inmates on death row would be affected and was waiting further direction from the courts, said spokesman Larry Todd.

"No one will be automatically commuted to life," Todd said Thursday.

Harrington estimated 68 inmates, or 15 percent of the 455 people on death row, could be considered mentally retarded under the Supreme Court ruling.

In April, a third Texas jury determined convicted killer John Paul Penry was mentally competent to stand trial despite an IQ in the 50s.

Penry, who tests show has the intellectual ability of a 6- or 7-year-old, has spent nearly half his life locked up for killing Pamela Moseley Carpenter.

The U.S. Supreme Court had blocked three recent scheduled Texas executions of convicts who claimed to be mentally retarded.

One of the nation's busiest death penalty states, Texas has executed 16 people this year.

Before the Supreme Court Ruling, the Death Penalty Information Center claimed Texas has executed six mentally retarded inmates since 1982, a number disputed by death penalty proponents.

Messages left Thursday with the Houston-based victims' rights group Justice for All were not immediately returned.


Online at: http://www.dallasnews.com/texassouthwest/stories/062002dntextexasreaxscotus.c2b04.html


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: executions; mentallyretarded; scotus; ussupremecourt
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To: MeeknMing
Well, I wonder if the USSC bothered to look at the ATM videotape of Atkins and his pal as they forced the victim, (a US Airforce airman stationed at Langley AFB) to withdraw money from his bank. The look of dispair on the airman's face was evident.

Here's some more info about Atkins

Atkins had 20 previous felonies on his record at the time of the killing, the state argued. Atkins gave a detailed confession to police when he was arrested, describing how he and an accomplice kidnapped the victim, forced him to withdraw cash from a bank teller machine and then drove him to a deserted field and shot him eight times.

21 posted on 06/20/2002 4:49:38 PM PDT by csvset
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To: spqrzilla9
If I were on death row, I'd get awfully dumb awfully quick.
22 posted on 06/20/2002 5:02:20 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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To: Kerberos
How can everyone ever be equal...Nature isn't equal.
23 posted on 06/20/2002 5:11:48 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay
"How can everyone ever be equal...Nature isn't equal."

It is making a reference to the legal sense of the word, not the physical sense.

24 posted on 06/20/2002 5:29:20 PM PDT by Kerberos
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To: DrewsDad
"Just as we don't execute children in this country or in this state, we ought not execute someone who has the mind of a child," Ellis said.

I'm pretty sure Ellis is a huge advocate for executing children. He would just rather defend some murdering rapist than innocent human life.
And I would bet that your are probably right on the money there, FRiend!
25 posted on 06/20/2002 5:41:16 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: livius
Wow! Excellent comment about this issue there. Thanks for that. I can tell
you have put a lot of thought into this issue and have a grasp of the issue.

26 posted on 06/20/2002 5:52:32 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: Kerberos
Thanks!
27 posted on 06/20/2002 5:57:25 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: IronJack
Thank you for your well-reasoned input!
28 posted on 06/20/2002 6:09:06 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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To: MeeknMing
My belief is that those who kill should be in turn be (killed) executed. This is a silly form of affirmative action for low IQ and deranged murderers. Those who are proven killers must be removed from this world.
29 posted on 06/20/2002 6:12:33 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: MeeknMing
Well, there you have it, democrats, liberals and radical leftists such as Hillary and Clinton will never face the death penalty. What a shame.
30 posted on 06/20/2002 6:15:04 PM PDT by Cacique
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To: IronJack
Your view is close to old Jewish law where intent is subordinate to the result. Where if there are two good witnesses to murder, and there is a fair trial, then the sentence must be death.
31 posted on 06/20/2002 6:16:32 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: MeeknMing
On a more serious note. My brother suffered from down's syndrome. Bay all standards he would be classified as "retarded", whatever that means.

However, having said all that, I can attest to one indisputable fact. He knew the difference between right and wrong and wouldn't have hurt a fly. He was very forgiving even when in my ignorance of youth I abused him.

If my brother could know what was right and what was wrong, the difference between good and evil, then I think anyone should be able to do so.

It is my firm belief that being good or evil has nothing to do with intelligence but is a more subtle matter.

If you do wrong and you comprehend that you have done wrong, you should be punished. And, if you kill, society should have no use for you.

Even my brother would have understood that.

32 posted on 06/20/2002 6:26:07 PM PDT by Cacique
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To: MeeknMing
Murderer loving liberals are celebrating. I expect the result of the U.S Supreme Court decision to result in Death Row convicts gaming the justice system in a bid to block executions by suddenly claiming mental retardation or other mental illnesses. And since I.Q is a subjective area with no agreed standards, it'll be a field day for the murderer loving crowd. Look for more delays on already overburdened death penalty system. It was not the U.S Supreme Court's finest decision in throwing yet another monkey wrench into our justice system today.
33 posted on 06/20/2002 6:45:24 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: MeeknMing
Sure thing! I put a lot of thought into it while I was working in the group home. It was a great experience, but I wouldn't want to do it again. But, oh heck, I was young and crazy then.
34 posted on 06/20/2002 7:02:30 PM PDT by livius
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To: dennisw
Judaic law has its strong points. The Old Testament God had vengeance to spare.
35 posted on 06/20/2002 7:06:08 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: MeeknMing
If ever there was legislation biased in favor of Democrats, this is it.
36 posted on 06/20/2002 7:06:54 PM PDT by 537 Votes
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To: MeeknMing
Depends on how they define retarded. What about people that are refered to as "slow"?
37 posted on 06/20/2002 7:07:10 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: 537 Votes
Bill Clinton let the execution of a retarded man stand while he was governor in 1992 to show he supported the death penalty.
38 posted on 06/20/2002 8:36:15 PM PDT by weegee
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To: MeeknMing
Perhaps all of those people are making claims but there was a man executed in Texas a couple of weeks ago that had an attorney who made the claim that his client had the "mind of a child" at the time of his crime since he was not 18 at the time. He tried to get a stay of execution until this ruling was finalized.

The man was 17 1/2 when he committed the murder/carjacking/attempted murder crime (he killed the driver, shot but did not kill the passenger, and stole the car). How much "smarter" was this thug going to get in 6 months? We were told how he was elected class president, how he was a star athlete.

This is just another trick in the bag for lawyers to keep the guilty from getting their due (not a saving by grace, but a loophole).

There have been other unusual cases like a man who was fine when he committed the murders but sustained some kind of head injury later (possibly a self-inflicted gunshot from an attempted suicide). Some claimed that it wasn't right to kill him since he had no idea what was happening to him or why.

I heard that this ruling is bad also because it purposely left the determination of mental ability/retardation to each state meaning that they won't have a common definition.

39 posted on 06/20/2002 8:44:25 PM PDT by weegee
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To: goldstategop
I really don't think that will happen. First, I wouldn't dream of insulting mentally retarded folks by lumping them together with these murdering morons.

The law requires that they have a ~70 or below IQ and a history of mental retardation prior to age 18, difficulty with everyday tasks (like tying your shoes, wiping ass, etc) and required supervision. These nutballs on death row are sometimes idiots, but not retarded. Perhaps the definition of 'retarded' will be downgraded to include them, though.

40 posted on 06/20/2002 8:55:42 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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