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A police state in the making
Washington Times ^ | Monday, June 17, 2002 | House Editorial

Posted on 06/16/2002 10:29:26 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:54:46 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Every individual who lives in or visits the nation's capital is now an enemy of the state. Or so it seems. How else to explain the vast network of closed-circuit cameras that are popping up all over town? If you think this is hyperbolic rhetoric

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Monday, June 17, 2002

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1 posted on 06/16/2002 10:29:26 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
...and John Q. Public gets to pay for all of it.
2 posted on 06/16/2002 10:40:20 PM PDT by let freedom sing
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3 posted on 06/16/2002 10:41:25 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: let freedom sing
Our government is bugging the telephones, computers and all the rooms of the house, yet they are leaving the doors and windows wide open.
4 posted on 06/16/2002 10:44:15 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: JohnHuang2;Travis McGee,sneakypete,harpseal,Squantos,Chapita
If you want to know where the cameras fail to cover, look for cruisers with sleeping cops.
5 posted on 06/16/2002 10:46:10 PM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: JohnHuang2
Pehaps this might have something to do with the fact that on September 11th 2001 Muslim terrorists hijacked aircraft full of people and flew them into buildings in NY and DC?
I am having a problem understanding the mentality of people in this nation. They obviously don't understand the magnitude of the event, and the extreme danger we are in. Perhaps they have seen too many violent movies. While you are watching it, it is exciting and you are all fired up in the audience rooting for the good guys. When it is over, you go home and all is well.
This war is not make believe, it is very real, and coming to a city near you. No tickets are necessary and the popcorn isn't $5 a bucket.
6 posted on 06/16/2002 10:46:51 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: JohnHuang2
Guess it's time to call on Congress to really and truly find out what's going on.

What?!!! These people really are clueless!

7 posted on 06/16/2002 10:48:01 PM PDT by gr8eman
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To: JohnHuang2
Do you want a policeman watching as your little girl hitches her dress an inch or two as she adjusts her slip

How utterly shocking that would be

8 posted on 06/16/2002 10:56:33 PM PDT by paul51
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To: ladyinred
I'd feel a lot better about the USA turning into a surveillance society for the sake of the "War on Terrorism" if I knew that the watchers were watching primarily for our enemies: arab muslim men from 18 to 40, and not John Q Citizen.
9 posted on 06/16/2002 10:57:12 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Joe Hadenuf
yet they are leaving the doors and windows wide open

I think that's gonna be extra for the doors and windows OR,

Ever hear this is classic? "I (US) don't do windows."

10 posted on 06/16/2002 11:06:23 PM PDT by let freedom sing
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To: razorback-bert

Making ??? It's just a rerun......."UNCLE SAM" (aka Homeland Security) stands for United Network Command for Law and Enforcement..........

Stay Safe

11 posted on 06/16/2002 11:27:23 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: ladyinred
Terrorists will adapt to new security and hit us again. In the meantime what rights we had left will evaporate under the glare of counter-terrorism measures.

Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!
-Patrick Henry
12 posted on 06/16/2002 11:32:28 PM PDT by Djarum
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To: JohnHuang2
No one has a right to privacy in public. It's that simple.
13 posted on 06/16/2002 11:38:06 PM PDT by walden
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To: ladyinred; RichardsSweetRose; Eyes Now Opened; All
This war is not make believe, it is very real, and coming to a city near you.

I have yet to have anyone explain to me what good all the surveillance cameras would do in the event of more terrorist attacks. In fact, I have yet to have someone explain to me how surveillance cameras make us safer in any way. The only benefit I can see is allowing the crimes to be solved after the fact. Can you explain any other benefit?

In my mind, the loss of privacy FAR outweighs any possible benefit to being watched. I'd rather have my privacy and be responsible for my own safety.

14 posted on 06/16/2002 11:45:13 PM PDT by Liberty Belle
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To: Liberty Belle
Good Point..............

IMHO They will sell the video's after the fact to one of those "amazing stupidity" shows..........if anyone is left alive to watch it......... It's all about money ya know.

Stay Safe !

15 posted on 06/16/2002 11:51:52 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: walden
No one has a right to privacy in public.

Where have you been, the homeless do.

16 posted on 06/16/2002 11:55:32 PM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: Liberty Belle
In my mind, the loss of privacy FAR outweighs any possible benefit to being watched

You have no valid expectation of privacy outside of your own home.

17 posted on 06/16/2002 11:57:57 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: ladyinred
I am having a problem understanding the mentality of people in this nation. They obviously don't understand the magnitude of the event, and the extreme danger we are in.

I am having a problem understanding anyone who is willing to give up their liberty, that so many have fought, and died for, for the illusion of security.

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin

18 posted on 06/17/2002 12:22:33 AM PDT by AZ GRAMMY
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To: Texasforever
"You have no valid expectation of privacy outside your own home."

What about a conversation with your family in your car on a public road?

Is that conversation fair game for authorities to monitor and retain in a file?

19 posted on 06/17/2002 12:39:40 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: walden
No one has a right to privacy in public.

So what? The article doesn't claim that there's a right to privacy in public. In fact, the article doesn't mention rights at all. Your comment is irrelevant.

20 posted on 06/17/2002 1:40:49 AM PDT by Sandy
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