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1 posted on 06/11/2002 2:24:07 AM PDT by TomGuy
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Are these guys for real or just decoys ? I suspect that Al-Qaeda sent more than one team, just like in old spy/comedy movie "Spies Like Us". I am not kidding here.

2 posted on 06/11/2002 2:31:58 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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If nothing else, Mr. Padilla appears qualified for Islamist membership based on his "spawned by Satan from a cauldron of evil" facial expression.

These guys all look as if they've been peeled from underneath a rock (e.g., Atta, Moussouai, Reed).

4 posted on 06/11/2002 2:46:56 AM PDT by angkor
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Maybe Biden is right. Perhaps we can't have Homeland Defense on the cheap. And I suspect that is exactly what Bush was hoping he would say.

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6 posted on 06/11/2002 3:07:50 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March
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I wonder what kind of family life he had, what were his parents like. Reid, and Lindh both came from dysfunctional, weird families.
8 posted on 06/11/2002 3:37:31 AM PDT by Dante3
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"Padilla is a former gang member from Chicago who was raised Catholic but converted to Islam…
Undersecretary of State John Bolton indicated the man was carrying plans for the attack when he was picked up in Chicago…
Attorney General John Ashcroft said Al Qaeda apparently believed Padilla would be permitted to travel freely within the United States because of his citizenship and his U.S. passport…
Padilla "trained with the enemy," studying how to wire explosives and researching radiological weapons. Ashcroft said Padilla met several times in 2001 with senior Al Qaeda officials in Pakistan and Afghanistan, where he traveled after he served one year's probation on state weapons and assault charges in Sunrise, Fla…
Padilla first met Zubaydah in Afghanistan in late 2001 after the Sept. 11 terror attacks, then went to Lahore, Pakistan, to research dirty bomb techniques with an unidentified associate, officials said. At Abu Zubaydah's request, Padilla traveled to Karachi, Pakistan, in March to meet several senior Al Qaeda officials and discuss bombings of U.S. gas stations and hotels, officials said…
He was convicted at 15 as a juvenile of aggravated battery, armed robbery and attempted armed robbery. A law enforcement official said Padilla was in custody there between November 1985 and May 1988…
In Florida, he was convicted in 1991 in Sunrise on charges of aggravated assault and discharging a firearm, court records show…
While in the Broward County jail, Padilla was accused of battery on a jail officer and resisting without violence in January 1992. He pleaded guilty and spent 10 months behind bars...
Court records also show Padilla with speeding convictions in 1993 and 1997, and his driver's license was suspended in 1996…

Spook, is this one of the bin Laden's "deep cover and sleepers agents…already tasked for future missions"? Is this how they blend into American society, able to bypass background checks? ;-}
10 posted on 06/11/2002 6:13:58 AM PDT by elfman2
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11 posted on 06/11/2002 6:55:35 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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Peter Jennings, 6:00 World News yesterday:
"He's being detained without council!"
"He's being held for an infanant amount of time without knowing what he's being charged with?"

Excuse me, he was planning to kill Americans? Hello?

I also heard about the shoe bombers new defence: " He was medicated at the time."

Who are these reporters and lawyers, and what are they doing in our country?

14 posted on 06/11/2002 7:40:11 AM PDT by concerned about politics
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Law enforcement sources told Fox News another man named Benjamin Ahmed Mohammed was implicated in the plot and was taken into custody in Pakistan "recently," perhaps late last month.

....after being interrorgated extensively by the Pakastinis, Mohammed ratted out Padilla?

20 posted on 06/11/2002 8:39:48 AM PDT by blam
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He was convicted at 15 as a juvenile of aggravated battery, armed robbery and attempted armed robbery......In Florida, he was convicted in 1991 in Sunrise on charges of aggravated assault and discharging a firearm, court records show...Police said Padilla - - brandished a .38 revolver at another driver during a traffic encounter. When the other driver followed him to a gas station, Padilla fired one shot from his vehicle at the other car. No one was hurt. Police traced his license tag and arrested Padilla at home, where they found him with the handgun in his waistband.... While in the Broward County jail, Padilla was accused of battery on a jail officer and resisting without violence in January 1992. He pleaded guilty and spent 10 months behind bars....Court records also show Padilla with speeding convictions in 1993 and 1997, and his driver's license was suspended in 1996. Padilla also completed a traffic law substance-abuse course in 1992, but it was unclear whether that stemmed from an arrest.

Why in the world of "three-strikes and you are out" is this guy out in the world with a US passport traveling to foreign countries. It is a federal offense for a convicted felon to be in possession of a firearm! I know, I know, the Clinton years....., the guy is probably a registered Democrat and votes two to three times in each election.....he comes from Chicago.

24 posted on 06/11/2002 9:18:32 AM PDT by Robert357
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John Doe #3?
26 posted on 06/11/2002 9:21:42 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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He doesn't look like a person who would do something like that," said Nelly Ojeda

Eeeesh...he looks like Satan incarnate.

27 posted on 06/11/2002 9:22:36 AM PDT by NautiNurse
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"We have the right to fight (Americans) by chemical and biological weapons so that they catch the fatal and unusual diseases that Muslims have caught due to their chemical and biological weapons."

Uh huh. Yep. Gotta watch thos tainted candy drops and those leather belts. Also, we should apologize for nuking all those Arabs without telling anybody.

The worst part is that the general population believes this stuff.

The sewers in which these people live can't be responsible for all their diseases....NOOOOO, first it was the Joooooos and now it's the Americans.

I'm growing to hate ignorant peasants.

30 posted on 06/11/2002 9:50:56 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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"In Florida, he was convicted in 1991 in Sunrise on charges of aggravated assault and discharging a firearm, court records show. Padilla, who identified himself as Catholic when he was booked on those charges, served one year of supervised release, until Aug. 4, 1993. A Justice official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Padilla converted to Islam after his 1993 release."

Can we then safely assume that Pedilla was recruited in Florida?

31 posted on 06/11/2002 9:53:21 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: TomGuy; mhking; poohbah; mitchell; doughtyone; lazamataz; KCconspirator
Benjamin Ahmed Mohammed

Quirky fact:

The rev. Ben Chavis of various fames changed his name to Benjamin Mohammed/Muhammed when he joined Nation of Islam.

Yes, I have checked for a "Ahmed" middle name, but can't find any.

39 posted on 06/11/2002 2:50:48 PM PDT by Shermy
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Speaking of accomplices, today's Washington Post said authorities refused to say whether or not Padilla was met by anybody at O'Hare.
41 posted on 06/11/2002 3:22:28 PM PDT by aristeides
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Oh, this guy sounds like a right peach...another poster boy for the leftists...
42 posted on 06/11/2002 3:24:17 PM PDT by Frances_Marion
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A message from Jim Robinson regarding the fundraiser!
45 posted on 06/11/2002 5:04:18 PM PDT by WIMom
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Dirty Bomb Suspect May Have Help in US
7:28 am PST, 12 June 2002

Federal authorities have vowed to track down U.S.-based cohorts of Abdullah al Muhajir, alias Jose Padilla, who was arrested last month for plotting to ignite a bomb laden with radioactivity.

Officials have not said Muhajir was working with others inside the U.S. to carry out the "dirty bomb" attack, possibly in Washington, D.C., but reports earlier this week confirmed that another man suspected of plotting with Muhajir has also been arrested.

Authorities arrested Muhajir May 8 as he returned to the U.S. from Pakistan. Officials say Muhajir, 31, had the plans on him when he was detained.

Officials also said an accomplice had been arrested in Pakistan as well, but they added that suspect would not be extradited to the U.S.

The Washington Post reported Wednesday that federal officials say they are concerned Muhajir may have had help inside the United States because they believe he was coming back to conduct target-scouting reconnaissance for the terror group al-Qaeda.

Attorney General John Ashcroft, speaking to reporters in the Swiss capital of Berne, said al-Qaeda did not train thousands of assailants only to send 19 or 20 to the U.S.

"We believe there is a serious threat," he said. "It is an international threat fragmented around the world."

Nevertheless, the U.S. will "run down every lead," President Bush vowed Tuesday. "This guy Padilla is a bad guy. He's where he needs to be, detained."

Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz said yesterday that Muhajir, who is being held in solitary confinement, has so far refused to cooperate with officials.

Wolfowitz also said Muhajir met several times with al-Qaeda leaders in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, to plot more assaults against the U.S.  

51 posted on 06/12/2002 5:21:39 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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