Archaeologists Unearth 1,700 Year-Old Canal System Near Lake Okeechobee (Florida)

Sun- Sentinel ^ | 6-6-2002 | Rhonda Miller

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"I doubt it. As I understand it, Gilgamesh is the same individual as Noah. "

I've never heard this before. I'll see (later) if I can get some dates to connect on this Gilgamesh/Noah thing.

I've been trying to connect the refugees from the Black Sea flood to the caucasian mummies found in eastern China, The Mummies Of Urumchi, Elizabeth Barber and The Tarim Mummies, Victor Mair. (both excellent books)

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"I think that city recently found over a thousand feet under water off the coast of Cuba is a better candidate for Atlantis."

I agree. That is presently my favorite spot to find Atlantis. However, it's 2200 feet underwater, too much for subsidence?

[Publius6961]

Carr estimates that hundreds of Native Americans lived in this area and used handmade tools of wood and shell to dig out millions of yards of sand and soil.

These discoveries are fascinating, or could be, if it weren't for the overeducated PC morons who insist on feeding us speculation instead of just the facts.
Native Americans? I don't think so; at least none in the form normally accepted.
Those technologically regressed savages devolved over a thousand years?
Yeah right. Makes sense.

I lean toward the simpler, more rational explanation.
Settlements from visitors who came and went.
Or were killed off by the useless "native americans".

[ko_kyi]

Yeah, these canals probably drew water away from endagered suckerfish, and caused their extinction. Those ancients were really raping mother Gaia. Somebody call the NRDC!

[adx]

Off topic, in a sense, but have you read The Peshawar Lancers, by S.M. Stirling? Kinda the same scenario (alternate history involving massive cometary impacts throwing civilization all to hell in the 1870's), and your posts reminded me of it.

[Francohio]

Relax. It's a fake. The Florida State Tourism Association is desperate to prove that there was once intelligent life in Florida. I reckon they figure "better to have had it in the remote past, than never at all."

Which is what most people might think upon encountering Floridians, native or otherwise.

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"Off topic, in a sense, but have you read The Peshawar Lancers, by S.M. Stirling? "

Thanks, no I haven't. Comet impacts in 1878?

[Carry_Okie]

Oh, I don't think so. There's plenty of evidence of lower RELATIVE sea level all across the Carribean; i.e., it may be a combination of sea level rise and crustal subsidance. Whatever it was, it's impressive.

[RightWhale]

Perhaps the reference to many sites being aligned 20 degrees off north was baseless.

[RightWhale]

As a further aside, it is only since the late 1800s that science accepted that meteorites came from the sky. The science kook of that day thought outrageously that meteors and meteorites were related.

[Carry_Okie]

There's nothing quite like measurements. Speculation is an important part of investigation, but then one puts on one's skeptic hat and shoots at it.

It's hard to justify grant money that way ;-)

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

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Don't miss this one.

[Sam Cree]

This is really fascinating.

What's the signifigance of 340 degrees...Is it a reference to a pole shift?

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"I doubt it. As I understand it, Gilgamesh is the same individual as Noah. I think the great flood was an earlier event (consider the Black Sea flooding nearer to Ararat), but I would give a Lot more credence on this one explaining Sodom and Gamorrah."

The Black Sea Flood (Noah's Flood?) occurred 7,600 years ago. (Ryan & Pittman, Noah's Flood) Gilgamesh ruled Babylonia about 2,700BC (4,700 years ago). I believe the Gilgamesh/Noah story are taken from the same event. Whether they were the same person, don't know. There's a 2,900 year gap between the flood (Black Sea) and when Gilgamesh ruled Babylonia. That's a reeeaaal long time interval. (Are we back to the possibility of two floods?) I expect so.

[Carry_Okie]

The story of Gilgamesh involves the same releases of birds to test subsidance as does that of Noah according to a version of it in a library book we were using for my kids' history lesson on Sumerian civilization, and that's ALL I've seen. I noted that since it was a PC book approved for children (wouldn't want the kiddies to be learning about something from the Bible (that would be religion, Babylonian religion is OK though)) there was (of course) no mention of Noah in the story or its introduction. I pick some of this stuff up in wierd places.

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"The story of Gilgamesh involves the same releases of birds to test subsidance as does that of Noah according to a version of it in a library book we were using for my kids' history lesson on Sumerian civilization, and that's ALL I've seen."

I've read the Gilgamesh translation and I agree, the similaraties are unmistakeable. I have (all this time) accepted the idea/theory that they originated from the same source also. It's that 2,900 year gap that is the problem. Until I checked out these dates, I had just accepted that the Black Sea flood was Noah's and that it was the source of both these stories, Noah/Gilgamesh. Now I don't know what to think. Hmmmm

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See post 75,76 and 77.

[Carry_Okie]

I had just accepted that the Black Sea flood was Noah's and that it was the source of both these stories, Noah/Gilgamesh. Now I don't know what to think. Hmmmm

One would speculate that they were part of the same event; i.e., that the Black Sea flooded as a part of some larger phenomenon; your impact in the Shaat al Arab aera for example.

[Carry_Okie]

Do you have an estimated date for the destruction of Sodom and Gamorrah? I have read several potential causes (some probably fantastic) including an enormous natural gas explosion. The area was supposedly at one time endowed with oil that was consumed and the seeps sealed in that explosion. Israel has drilled exploratory wells in the area and come up dry.