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1 posted on 06/02/2002 9:37:09 AM PDT by freeforall
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To: freeforall
Reaganomics created the boom of the 90's ... not Klintoon
2 posted on 06/02/2002 9:39:39 AM PDT by Maedhros
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To: freeforall
Apart from winning the Cold War (I know most liberals think he didn't), his most remarkable achievement was in turning around the disastrous economy which started under Richard "Wage-and-Price-Controls" Nixon, and got even worse under Jimmy "Malaise" Carter.

Under Carter, the prime interest rate was 21%, and inflation was in double digits. To live in an economy like that was pretty scary. Carter was completely unable to do anything to solve the problem, except to lecture Americans about the need to get out of their "malaise."

Reagan came in, implemented tax cuts, threw out price controls on energy, and after a brief recession which was the inevitable result of coming out of Carter's disastrous economy, started an economic boom that pretty much went through the Clinton years.

Reagan made free market economics respectable after decades of Keynesian idiocy.

3 posted on 06/02/2002 9:43:52 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: freeforall
I'm communicating from my "backup browser"-- a 66 mhtz. 486 with a sticking keyboard & gritty trackball- so excuse the weird typos, they are hard to go back to & correct.


Jimmy Carter was my Governor before he convinced America that she needed a "reformer," and won office. I was running small businesses at the time, and by the time the 1980 elections rolled around, I was convinced that he was a disaster.

Just a few things wrong?

1- the fall of the Shah of Iran
2- Cubans in Angola
3- interest rates topping 21%
4- the Soviets ( remember them? ) rattling sabres around Europe
5- unrest in Central America
6- stagflation ( look it up, it's ugly! )
6- the Death of Elvis ( just kidding! )

Actually, there's a lot more, but this old PC is the devil to type on- anyway, almost anyone would have been better than Jimmy C., but luckily, Reagan came along. Let's just say I thought he was our best hope for reversing some of the rot & "malaise" that was infesting the country, and we moved heaven & earth to get him elected. They were good days.

4 posted on 06/02/2002 9:48:39 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: freeforall
I'll add some legs to your points...

Re-strengthening our military forced the Soviets to do something that they couldn't do: keep pace with us economically. The tax cuts and a return to a market economy in the early 80's (remember the "Misery Index" coined during the Carter administration) sparked an economic expansion that planned economies (i.e. the Soviets) couldn't compete with us.

I somewhat disagree with #5 - Carter didn't disrespect/disgrace the office like the previous occupant did. Carter just didn't handle the situations as they should be. Reagan flexed American military muscle when necessary. There were triumphs (Granada) and tragedies (Beirut). But it's a testimony to America's resilience that it took as short of period of time as it did to re-tool the military and make it effective. Without those steps we could not have responded to the challenges of Desert Shield/Storm.

I remember the 1980 election - I lived in California at the time. My friends were telling me not to vote for Reagan because "he was a Nazi". Looking back on it, I realize that my friends were leftists/liberals. Even though I was not politically aware then, it was Reagan's presidency that showed me that there was a difference between a conservative and liberal/moderate administrations.

5 posted on 06/02/2002 9:49:57 AM PDT by Bosco
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To: freeforall
Comments?

Sure. Upon seeing the headline, I reached for my baseball bat. Glad I read past it: good post.

12 posted on 06/02/2002 10:11:12 AM PDT by dighton
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To: freeforall
"Winning the Cold War" is almost a comical understatement. The Persian Gulf War cost about as much, and had several dozen American casualites. Ronald Reagan, through sheer personal will and clever economic planning (a war economy is a GREAT way to exit a depression/recession), won a war WITHOUT FIRING A SHOT, and with ZERO casualties, ZERO risk to our teenage children in the service (although I'm sure we owe a huge debt of gratitude to a few operatives), and simultaneously increased the wealth and standard of living (so much that the liberals had to label that 80's as the "Decade of Greed"... no such epithet for the 90's you'll notice). Many major national boundaries were changed (East and West Germany were reunited, and the USSR began its break-up), and even a decade later, there is no civil unrest in any of those changed areas (well, okay, Chechnya is the lone exception). Contrast that to the unmitigated disasters of the numerous map-redrawing results in Africa's history.

Sun-Tzu must have been beaming with pride.

13 posted on 06/02/2002 10:11:36 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: freeforall
*YAWN*
When you get around to thrashing Nixon, I might have a comment.

DU Loser

18 posted on 06/02/2002 10:24:54 AM PDT by Publius6961
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To: freeforall
Long live Ronaldus Maximus..
25 posted on 06/02/2002 10:46:01 AM PDT by codebreaker
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To: freeforall;Reagan Man
Thought you might enjoy this post and thread.
35 posted on 06/02/2002 11:01:12 AM PDT by Boxsford
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To: freeforall
Reagan restored the idea that someone intelligently sane was finally in charge of the country after 20 years of madness. Kennedy was the first Bill Clinton. Johnsonn was a bellowing left wing megalomaniac. Nexon was driven half nuts by the mobs in the streets and the leftist press. Ford was a brief nothing. Carter was a Christian Marxist subversive.

Reagan went around the media to speak directly to the people and started disassembling the radical left. Unfortunatelt, subsequent presidence did not carry on his thrust.

48 posted on 06/02/2002 11:23:02 AM PDT by RLK
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To: freeforall
bflr
54 posted on 06/02/2002 11:29:55 AM PDT by Captainpaintball
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To: freeforall
Also, to give you and answer that isn't predicated on "how bad Jimmy Carter was" let me add this:

Throughout the 1970's I read essays by Ronald Reagan, and each one convinced me "he's the man we need to get in the White House." Others have said it better, but Reagan was a man who believed in the goodness of America, and Americans. Rather than the opposite, which you can hear an echo of today from a lot of the European press.

60 posted on 06/02/2002 11:36:45 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: jla
I'm sure this will interest you :-)
71 posted on 06/02/2002 1:41:08 PM PDT by Happygal
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To: freeforall
I recommend the book, In His Own Hand. It is a collection of Reagan's many radio addresses. They capture the essence of his mind.

Absolutely. And everything he said in those radio addresses is applicable today.

Maybe someday, we'll have another real Conservative at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

72 posted on 06/02/2002 6:59:39 PM PDT by jla
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To: freeforall
Just now noticed the thread but have to add my 2cents to this. Reagan made me realize that American heroes still exist.

In the 1970's I was pretty disgusted with the way things were going for America. We had hyper-inflation under Jimmy Carter. Me and my wife had just got married, and with our minimum wage salaries were barely getting by. Every week the price of bread and milk was going up, along with everything else. Young people complain about prices now, but at least they're stable. Back then, inflation was running in the high teens. Everything Carter and the Democrats did was a disaster. Carter was dismantling our military at a frightening pace, our economy was in shambles, and we were losing world market share at an increasing rate to the Japanese and others. The democrats had no vision.

So you're thinking, what about Reagan, not Carter? Reagan immediately put into place strong fix-it measures that rebuilt our economy, our military, and our pride. Within two years of being in office the inflation was being put into check, our military was getting revived, and we were proud to be Americans again. I particularly remember the first space shuttle launch during Reagan's administration and his strong speeches reminding us that America was back and could stand strong. Others on this thread have mentioned lots of his accomplishments, among them his tearing down the iron curtain - dismantling of the Berlin wall and the fall of the Soviet empire. Another reason why he'll be remembered in a positive light 100 years from now is his quest to get an international space station built. BTW, it would have been done by the year 2000 except for all the cuts by the Clintoon administration.

73 posted on 06/03/2002 1:31:35 AM PDT by roadcat
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After Nixion, our nation was in moral shambles. The backlash resulted in Jimmy Carter being elected as President. But he was such a pathetic president that most Americans wanted him out. OUT! Regan changed everything. Americans again felt proud to be an American. They began to look forward to a fine life and had forgotten the doom and gloom that Carter so often expoused.


In many ways, Clinton affected our country in much the same way that Carter did.
74 posted on 06/03/2002 7:39:12 PM PDT by vannrox
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