[The Duke]

This is starting to shape up as the perfect test bed for the concept of nuclear deterrance. Surely there can be no two bigger hotheads than these two countries.

I say let's make a little popcorn and sit on the sidelines and see what happens.

[TomGuy]

[mhking]

Pakistan has threatened to use nuclear weapons even if India stuck to conventional arms in any conflict, asserting that it has never subscribed to "no-first-use" of atomic weapons and that ruling out their use would give New Delhi a "license to kill."

That's it, all bets are off, now.

[tictoc]

Time to go to the pharmacy and get iodine tablets.

[cake_crumb]

"The launching of a sharp attack less than 48 hours after taking over, some diplomats believe, could mean that Pakistan plans to use the United Nations for anti-Indian propaganda."

Arabs using the UN to spread propaganda???? Gee....what a novel idea! WOW, how amazing no other Arabs have thought of that sooner!! </SARCASM>

I am still hoping the diplomatic situation won't progress beyond the sabre rattling stage, but I wonder...

Also, Pakistan is obviously using their ambassador to trick India into doing a preemptive nuke...so Pakistan's terrorist networks all over the world will have "proof" that India is the aggressor.

Also, I'll be looking for a terrorist-appeasing UN resolution condemning India as the bad guy in Kashmir, because the UN pansies are so scared of an Islamic nuclear threat that they probably all have PUDDLES under their chairs.

[backhoe]

The India-Pakistani Conflict... some background information-

[DonQ]

It is interesting that it's a Moslem nation threatening to make first use of nuclear weapons against non-nuclear weapons. If Israel had made such a threat I suppose the UN and the entire Moslem world would have denounced it instantly.

I have a slightly different attitude about the current stage of the India-Pakistan conflict than some other people on this thread. I believe that Pakistan is parlaying its situation as the necessary base of the US anti-Taliban operation to bully India. Since the US forces arrived in Pakistan, Pakistan has made several minor attacks on India and then essentially hidden behind its patron the US. Pakistan may feel that since it currently holds the real estate that the US needs for its anti-Taliban agenda, that the US will not only indulge Pakistani belligerence against India but maybe help swat India down rather than let Indian retaliation interfere with US operations.

[ZULU]

The current administration in Pakistan, with its pro-western and pro-American outlook is as scure in the face of the overwhelming Islamic opposition of its subjects aas is the government of Egypt and Saudi Arabia.

Muslims hate the U.S. Muslims hate the west. Muslims hate Buddhist, Hinduds and all other non-Islamic religions. Islam is the greatest threat to civlization since Genghis Khan.

[aristeides]

Pakistan, Akram claimed, believed in "no-first-use of force." That was the reason, he said, that Islamabad had offered non-aggression pact to New Delhi but India had rejected it.

Isn't sponsoring terrorist attacks in Kashmir a use of force?

[Snowy]

If we were to apply the US's terror alert color system to this mess, what would the color be? From the mildest threat to severe threat, if I'm not mistaken, the colors are green, blue, yellow, orange, red. I think I would put it at orange.

[swarthyguy]

Pakistan's strategy of nuclear blackmail is paying off. You can be sure the princes of riyadh and the mullahs of teheran are taking careful notes.

Mush's two faced double dealing strategy is the epitomy of PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY.

And the concept of nuclear blackmail as a plank of foreign policy has now been enshrined and validated. Looks for its next manifestations closer to, and eventually in the US.

[LarryLied]

Time to bring back and update 1950s stuff. Atomic Fireball candy. A "Bombay" or "Islamabadbad" bikini. Mutant movies.

[My Identity]

For Reference:

Location	Size	Count
Hiroshima	15 kiloton	1
	21 kiloton	1
India	15-60 kilotons each	20-60
Pakistan	15-25 kilotons each	10-30
Russia	3-50 megatons each	2,000+

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Fallout effects from Indi-Paki nuke exchange

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And Map-a-Blast

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Film Footage of Actual Blasts
From a PBS site:

Operation Cue (500kb) Beginning in 1953 the Federal Civil Defense Adminstration, working with the Atomic Energy Commission, set up an atomic test program to investigate the effects of nuclear weapons on typical American homes and their furnishings.	Operation Castle (300kb) Operation Castle, a series of thermonuclear tests, was conducted in the Marshall Islands in the spring of 1954. The 15 megaton Bravo detonation was over 1,000 times larger than Hiroshima.	Layer Cake Design (500kb) In Andrei Sakharov's Layer Cake design, several layers of light and heavy elements were alternated. High explosives surrounding the Layer Cake would be used to implode and ignite the atomic bomb at the center of the device. The atomic explosion would then set off a fusion reaction in the deuterium.
Operation Cue (300kb) Each home was equipped with refrigerators, typical appliances, the kinds of food one would eat, from baby food to adult food, and were exposed to the blast.	Operation Castle (100kb) Operation Castle yielded more fallout than any of the other U.S. thermonuclear tests, contaminating military personnel and civilians on nearby islands.	Camp Desert Rock (900kb) Camp Desert Rock, Nevada - The U.S. military began using smaller blasts to learn how to fight a nuclear war. On April 22, 1952 approximately 2,000 Army personnel conducted maneuvers beneath the mushroom cloud of the 31-kiloton Charlie nuclear detonation.

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