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View for sale: $30,000 New owner of a lake fences it off when homeowners wouldn't pay.
St. Petersburg Times ^ | May 14, 2002 | ROBERT FARLEY

Posted on 05/14/2002 5:05:40 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: freedomcrusader
What 'right' did these people have to a view of the lake?

What right does anyone have to enjoy their property?

121 posted on 05/14/2002 6:36:26 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Poohbah
Apparently the neighbors think they own the lake, even though a quick check of the survey would have shown that they didn't.

What about Indian rights to fish in this lake? I am sure they would be glad to make some arrangement with the neighbours. And when this jerk steps even a few inches into the someone else ground, I hope they will defend their PRIVATE property with the appropriate weapon.

122 posted on 05/14/2002 6:36:44 AM PDT by A. Pole
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To: AppyPappy
He's not charging for a view, he's charging a price for the purchase of the land.
123 posted on 05/14/2002 6:37:05 AM PDT by freedomcrusader
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To: AppyPappy
He doesn't have the right to restrict another's enjoyment of their own property. Clearly the fence is only used to punish those who won't pay him.

The property being enjoyed used to belong to the homeowners. It now belongs to the extorting bastard, so the E.B. is not denying quiet enjoyment of anyones property.

However, this parcel may not be landlocked, so if houses surround the lake, it may be condemned. If an easement exists through county property, the county may deny and rescind the easement in a county vote. If, however, this parcel has any direct road frontage, the homeowners are screwed.

124 posted on 05/14/2002 6:37:13 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: freedomcrusader
The fence was not built to enhance the value. It was built to deny people the view of the lake in order to extort money from them.

You are ignoring the obvious in favor of the inane.

125 posted on 05/14/2002 6:37:24 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy
The lake isn't their property. They cna enjoy what theyt own still. They can longer enjoy what they never owned.
126 posted on 05/14/2002 6:37:39 AM PDT by freedomcrusader
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To: AppyPappy
Then why would he remove the fence for $30k?

Because that is how much it is worth to him?

127 posted on 05/14/2002 6:37:55 AM PDT by weaponeer
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To: NittanyLion
This is just typical ignorant and obnoxious libertarian-style ham-fistedness and short-sightedness.

Sure it's his property and he'll gloat for awhile. But in the end he'll see his and other private property owners' rights curtailed for his being such a greedy "in-your-face" jackass. He's vastly outnumbered by socialists who vote, and they know what to do. Then he'll moan and cry about the evil "statists." But the "statists" are a monster he created and strengthened.

Meanwhile the rest of us will continue to suffer the consequences. I am so tired of seeing my rights curtailed because some libertarian or quasi-libertarian believes the the best way to interact with his neighbor is to "legally" poke him in the eye with a sharp stick.

128 posted on 05/14/2002 6:38:24 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: AppyPappy
By building the fence, he can charge more for his land. Thus, by building the fence he has increased the value of HIS land.
129 posted on 05/14/2002 6:38:31 AM PDT by freedomcrusader
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To: Wolfie
Sure, the guy's a first class butt-wipe, no doubt about it.

Apparently there are 15 "waterfront lots" and this guy contacted these people to make a deal. It looks like they all brushed him off. Now the guy owns a lake and all the neighbors want a free view of somebody else's lawfully purchased lake. Maybe the homeowners are the butt-wipes. In fact, they must be butt-wipes for them to let this happen.

130 posted on 05/14/2002 6:38:44 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: freedomcrusader
Then why did he erect a pink fence that denies people a view of the lake? Why not just ask them to buy the access instead of erecting a fence that obscures the property owner's view?
131 posted on 05/14/2002 6:38:50 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: AppyPappy
The fence was not built to enhance the value. It was built to deny people the view of the lake in order to extort money from them.

You're missing the point. His motivation for building the fence is immaterial; he has a right to with his private property as he wishes. These people do not have a right to tell him what to do with his property, any more than he has a right to tell them to tear down their homes. It's a simply concept, which you are evidently unable to grasp.

133 posted on 05/14/2002 6:39:48 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Lancey Howard
Hence, my first post on the subject.
134 posted on 05/14/2002 6:40:23 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: NittanyLion
he has a right to with his private property as he wishes.

So he can dump motor oil into the lake if he wishes?

135 posted on 05/14/2002 6:40:36 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: sandydipper
How about take one of the boards off the fence and get Mr. Connelly by the collar and then just beat the dog crap outa him with the board - it works.

I don't doubt that thought has crossed more than a few minds.

136 posted on 05/14/2002 6:40:58 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Think about it.......who set this deal up? It was the county who was greedy for tax money. And they expect the county to look out for their interest?

The buyer of the lake is playing by the rules that were set up by the county who is looking out for the taxpayers.

137 posted on 05/14/2002 6:41:01 AM PDT by mutchdutch
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To: strela
The fence is wood construction, eh? It would be an awful shame if every board-foot happened to catch on fire and burn one dark night.

Arson as a legitimate means of settling disputes?

138 posted on 05/14/2002 6:41:07 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: maxwell
Don't gripe at me, take it up with the guy who recommended a hit-man.
139 posted on 05/14/2002 6:41:17 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: AppyPappy
Then why did he erect a pink fence that denies people a view of the lake? Why not just ask them to buy the access instead of erecting a fence that obscures the property owner's view?

Who knows? I'm not familiar with all the intracacies of selling land outright versus selling access rights. It seems to me that he could make more money by charging annually renewable access rights.

If he wants to obscure others view of his land, then that's his right as the owner of the land.

140 posted on 05/14/2002 6:41:53 AM PDT by freedomcrusader
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