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1 posted on 05/13/2002 3:10:36 AM PDT by kattracks
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"Francis J. Manion, senior counsel for the ACLJ, said parents should be able to participate in activities at a public school to see if it is appropriate for their children.

"This case is about protecting the rights of parents to participate fully in the education of their children," he said. "Parents do not abandon their rights as parents once their children go to school. Parents have a right to know what a school is teaching their children, and should not be punished for exercising their parental responsibilities. That's exactly what happened in this case."


"Parents have the original, primary, and inalienable right to educate their children, and it is the place of schools to assist them. But rights not asserted are rights lost by default. Parental rights are not self-enforcing; they have to be exercised by vigilant and concerned parents."

- Arthur J. Delaney, “The Grotesque World of Today’s Sex Education,” New Oxford Review, p. 16, May 1996.


56 posted on 05/13/2002 6:53:39 AM PDT by EdReform
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When our children were growing up in Florida (not too long ago) the parents were encouraged to watch the sex education films (hetrosexual) with the children so that the subject matter could then be discussed with their own children as the parents saw fit.
84 posted on 05/13/2002 7:31:35 AM PDT by NorseWood
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Who was responsible for making the decision that this program was worthy of disrupting the students' normal classroom activities? They should be held accountable. The parents have the right to see anything that is being presented to their children.
90 posted on 05/13/2002 7:37:55 AM PDT by NorseWood
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"This case is about protecting the rights of parents to participate fully in the education of their children," he said. "Parents do not abandon their rights as parents once their children go to school. Parents have a right to know what a school is teaching their children, and should not be punished for exercising their parental responsibilities. That's exactly what happened in this case."

Manion, is of course quoting from the well-known volume —

Things that Should Not Need to Be Said (And Would Not, in a Sane Society), vol. 3, p. 1179.

Dan

106 posted on 05/13/2002 7:51:32 AM PDT by BibChr
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Here's the story from the May 11, 2002 St. Louis Post-Dispatch

Mom ejected from school assembly sues
This story was published in A-section on Saturday, May 11, 2002.



* She had kept her daughter from the Metro High School program on gay rights, but she wanted to observe it herself. A guard forced her to leave.



Debra Loveless didn't like the idea of Metro High School sponsoring an assembly featuring a group that supports gay student rights. Loveless decided not to let her daughter, a Metro student, attend, but she wanted to observe the assembly herself.

When she tried to attend, she was ejected by an armed security guard.

Those are the allegations in a civil rights suit filed Friday in St. Louis in U.S. District Court. The suit targets Cleveland Hammonds Jr., superintendent of the St. Louis Public Schools; and Pamela Randall, Metro High principal. A Virginia-based group called the American Center for Law and Justice filed the suit for Loveless.

Chester Edmonds, the district's spokesman, said Hammonds did not want to comment on the suit because it is a legal matter. Ken Brostron, the school district's attorney, said there were valid reasons for the decision that will come to light later. He said principals have the discretion to decide whether a parent can come into a classroom.

"Not anybody can come into any classroom anytime they want to," Brostron said.

The six-page suit claims that Metro announced that the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network would participate in two school events in October, and that parents could exempt their children from attending. Loveless notified the magnet high school that she didn't want her daughter, Dana, to attend and told school officials she found it inappropriate for them to hold such events, the suit says.

Loveless got permission from Randall to sit in on the first event, she says in the suit. But when she tried to do so, she was told that parents could attend only if they'd given permission for their children to attend.

Loveless tried to attend the second event with School Board member Rochell Moore. But after the event began, a security guard asked Loveless to leave, on Hammonds' orders, the suit says.

The suit alleges that school officials discriminated against Loveless based on her religious views. It asks for unspecified damages, attorney's fees and a change in school policy.

Reporter Holly Hacker:\ E-mail: hhacker@post-dispatch.com\ Phone: 314-209-0982



Published in the A-section section of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch on Saturday, May 11, 2002.
Copyright (C)2002, St. Louis Post-Dispatch



110 posted on 05/13/2002 7:58:24 AM PDT by KS Flyover
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School-sponsored assembly conducted by the Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network...

Phase I of the Public School indoctrination program appears complete. Phase II entails NAMBLA Education Network conducting plays at public high schools....

112 posted on 05/13/2002 7:58:58 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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Google sez you can find "Dr." (that's an Ed.D, they come in Cracker Jack boxes) Randall here: pamela.randall@slps.org

Tell her what up.

113 posted on 05/13/2002 7:59:53 AM PDT by eno_
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ping.
126 posted on 05/13/2002 8:24:18 AM PDT by TxBec
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Unbelievable.
I'm surprised at some of the people on this board defending the actions of the school.
127 posted on 05/13/2002 8:24:46 AM PDT by FR_addict
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This in a public school!!!
For this to be allowed to happen, it makes you wonder what types of perverts are running the schools.
135 posted on 05/13/2002 8:47:51 AM PDT by ppaul
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Francis J. Manion, senior counsel for the ACLJ, said parents should be able to participate in activities at a public school to see if it is appropriate for their children.

He almost has it right. Not only should parents have the right to participate in activities at a public school to determine their appropriateness, but TAXPAYERS who fund such activities should also have the right. Any taxpayer should be able to see exactly what their dollars are purchasing.

141 posted on 05/13/2002 9:07:37 AM PDT by FourPeas
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"Parents do not abandon their rights as parents once their children go to [government] school. . ."

I disagree with this statement. When parents abandon their sacred responsibility to educate their children by delegating that responsibility to the state, then they are abandoning the right, too, it seems to me. I know parents don't mean to do this, but it is reality.

152 posted on 05/13/2002 9:38:12 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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This is frightening. Go, ACLJ!!!!!!! For victory & freedom!!!
159 posted on 05/13/2002 10:02:46 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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Mom Sues Over Ejection From School Assembly On Homosexuality

Excerpt:

(CNSNews.com) - A St. Louis, Mo. mom is suing the public high school that blocked her from observing a school-sponsored assembly conducted by the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN).

Debra Loveless had told school officials she considered the event inappropriate, but was trying to view it herself on Oct. 24, 2001 when she was escorted out of the assembly, according to Loveless' attorneys, who have filed the federal civil rights lawsuit in U.S. District Court in St. Louis. Loveless' daughter attends Metro High School.

GLSEN bills itself as the country's largest network of parents, students and educators aimed at preventing "discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender/identity expression in K-12 schools," according to its website.

GLSEN did not return phone calls to CNSNews.com.

The group conducted two assemblies at Metro High School, Oct. 17 and Oct. 24 of last year, both of which Loveless' daughter was exempted from attending because of the family's religious beliefs, according to the American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ), the public interest law firm representing Loveless.

However, when, at the urging of a school board member, Loveless attempted to attend the Oct. 24 event, she was ejected by an armed security guard, the ACLJ stated.


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160 posted on 05/13/2002 10:03:32 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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Contact info for FReeping:

School:
Metro High School
4015 McPherson
St. Louis, Mo 63108
314-534-3894

Principal:
Pamela Randall, Ed.D
Pamela.Randall@slps.org

St. Louis Public Schools Board of Education:
Board Members may be reached at 314/345-2230.
Vice President, William Purdy - Email
Board Member, Marlene Davis - Email
Board Member, Amy Hilgemann - Email
Board Member, Rochell Moore - Email
Metro High School Goals:

GOALS OF METRO HIGH SCHOOL ARE:

Spelling errors are in bold type
162 posted on 05/13/2002 10:12:48 AM PDT by Spiff
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It's too bad she just did not give her daughter a tape recorder so that all the filth would have been caught on tape! That would have been a better story that this one.

Assemblies are crowded enough without parents attending, when I was in HS, we never saw any parents, there would be no room for them and that is why this school probably had two assemblies. Most gyms and auditoriums do not have the room to accomodate the students, nevermind the parents. Nor do I ever remember a parent in any of my classrooms (Catholic and Public schools), do you?

There would be mass confusion if parents attend instructional programs and classroom instruction--the classes are crowded enough. Parents attended plays and recitals and other shows where the students performed. We did have class mothers and the like; however they were designated a job whether it was remdial help or other jobs and were screend by the principal before hand. There are many other factors involved as well, such as security. A principal has a right to know who is in his building--not all parents are good people, some are ex-cons, drug addicts, etc. I am a former school board member of an inner-city school district.


166 posted on 05/13/2002 10:21:39 AM PDT by Coleus
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Loveless tried to attend the second event with School Board member Rochell Moore. But after the event began, a security guard asked Loveless to leave, on Hammonds' orders, the suit says.

This Hammonds from the article in the link below?

Prosecutors probing 50 complaints of child sex abuse, 22 against priest
173 posted on 05/13/2002 10:43:29 AM PDT by firewalk
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The Public Schools are Weapons of Mass Destruction.

I await the day that the students will render them inoperable and drag the administrative predators outside for some rough justice.

174 posted on 05/13/2002 10:59:07 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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bttt
183 posted on 05/13/2002 2:17:50 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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BTTT
185 posted on 05/13/2002 6:05:41 PM PDT by firewalk
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