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Police came too late: 911 caller is slain
Chicago Sun Times ^ | May 8, 2002 | FRAN SPIELMAN, CARLOS SADOVI AND ABDON M. PALLASCH STAFF REPORTERS

Posted on 05/09/2002 6:08:14 AM PDT by SJackson

The Chicago Police Department's Internal Affairs Division has launched an investigation to determine why a South Side woman who made three calls to 911 to report that her husband was violating an order of protection was murdered before police arrived on the scene.

A pair of police cars converged on the scene 17 minutes after the victim's first Friday night call to 911, but Ronyale White, 31, was dead on the bedroom floor with a gunshot wound in her head.

Whether a quicker response would have saved White's life is unknown. Even so, the question is why did officers take 17 minutes to arrive at her home in the 10600 block of South La Salle.

Was White's initial call--that her husband was violating the order of protection--given the "Priority 1A" status it deserved?

IAD opened a "complaint registered" in response to questions raised by the Chicago Sun-Times and by Leslie Landis, domestic violence liaison to Mayor Daley.

"Initially, the sequence of calls, when you look at it, appear to be within the guidelines, but it's questionable," police spokesman Pat Camden said.

White made three calls to 911 --at 11:40 p.m., 11:45 p.m. and at 11:50 p.m., prosecutors said.

Although police cars were reportedly dispatched to the scene after each of the three calls, none arrived at White's home until 11:57 p.m. That's when two cars arrived simultaneously and officers found White's body on the bedroom floor, said Larry Langford, spokesman for the city's Office of Emergency Communications.

In the first call, White is heard saying her husband, Louis Drexel, 30, is outside her home and she has an order of protection against him.

Dispatchers then hear her saying, " 'He's inside the house,' " prosecutor LuAnn Rodi Snow said.

In the second call, White says Drexel left the house and was "punching holes in the tires of the Durango. He has a gun," Rodi Snow said. "He said she's going to die."

In the third and final call, operators hear a man's voice threatening death, then a loud noise, apparently a door being kicked in. Five seconds later, two shots are heard and the phone goes dead.

White had locked the door of her bedroom and activated a tape recorder, which captured much of the attack, including the gunshots. After the attack, Drexel put the gun in her hand in a failed attempt to make it appear to be a suicide, the prosecutor said.

Investigators said they think the gun was the same gun Drexel had reported stolen in early April.

After the shooting, Drexel went to his mother's Forest Park home. The mother called police, who arrived on the scene as Drexel was attempting suicide. The bullet grazed his right temple. Drexel was later hospitalized. He wore a blue hospital smock during a bond hearing Tuesday.

He was charged with first-degree murder and ordered held without bond.

The murder of a battered woman who made three frantic calls to 911 angered victims' advocates, including Landis.

"If that's how things transpired, it's a tragedy. The response should have been prompter. . . . Priority One calls should receive a response that's faster than 17 minutes," Landis said.

"We need to examine what we can do to prevent that kind of occurrence in the future. I'm asking them to investigate it."

Joyce Coffee, executive director of Family Rescue, a South Side nonprofit, said she was "saddened" by the police response, especially in light of recent changes that have bolstered police training on domestic violence and elevated emergency calls to the Priority One status that requires immediate dispatch.

Langford acknowledged that the 911 call-taker had the option of dispatching a police car while continuing to question the victim, but chose to interview White fully before radioing the first police car shortly after 11:43 p.m.

"The lady's demeanor was very calm and she was conversational. She didn't say anything in the call that indicated she was about to be bodily harmed. She said he got in with a key. There was no indication that he was kicking in a door. Because there was no weapon on the scene, that might have had something to do with it," he said.


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Ping to a few I might have missed in 40
41 posted on 05/09/2002 6:20:12 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: AnnaZ; HangFire; Lady Jenn; Kithlyara; AZ Spartacus; feinswinesuksass; abigail2...
Belles bump
42 posted on 05/09/2002 6:25:19 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: SJackson
Good post. I often let people know that I enjoy target shooting, have gotten pretty good at it, and hope to get better, and that I'm getting a nice collection of firearms. I am often stared at in disbelief (I'm a woman, btw)- the reaction is that I don't LOOK like someone who has guns. Oh? And what, pray tell, does a shooter look like? Most people end up stuttering and just change the subject.

I'm not in Illinois, I'm in California, and I'm interested in 2ndA issues everywhere.

43 posted on 05/09/2002 6:28:21 PM PDT by .38sw
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To: .38sw
And what, pray tell, does a shooter look like?

It's important that non shooters and non hunters learn they not only look like, but are, their neighbors.

44 posted on 05/09/2002 6:30:19 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
Thanks. Please keep me pinged.
45 posted on 05/09/2002 6:35:37 PM PDT by sistergoldenhair
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To: DoughtyOne
The gun laws are designed to appeal to a majority of women

If true, this is the problem to be corrected.

46 posted on 05/09/2002 6:42:10 PM PDT by sistergoldenhair
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To: thulldud
Good point. In fact, if you're dead, you're automatically a democrat voter at election time. Who speaks for the dead in Chicago? The Daley family.
47 posted on 05/09/2002 6:46:00 PM PDT by Twodees
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To: DoughtyOne
It is horrifying to me that so many women are AFRAID to defend themselves - and their children. I don't know if you had heard of this case - the Sund women who were killed by Cary Stayner near Yostemite Park, and the Yosemite park employee who was beheaded by Stayer, but that case was the precipitating event that sent me out to buy a gun. I had never owned one before, but now I am very comfortable with a .45 auto. I practice often. I believe that my life, and my family's lives, are worth defending.
48 posted on 05/09/2002 6:47:08 PM PDT by .38sw
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To: sistergoldenhair;doughtyone
The gun laws are designed to appeal to a majority of women
If true, this is the problem to be corrected.

I think they're largely designed around non gun owners, especially those who have had little contact with guns. Women may be the majority, but there are lots of urban males who've never touched a gun as well.

Their lack of knowledge about firearms and gun owners is the problem that needs to be addressed.

49 posted on 05/09/2002 6:48:26 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
The lesson: Don't rely on 911, the cops or anyone else. In a situation like this your only friend is a .38 or better.
50 posted on 05/09/2002 6:50:09 PM PDT by jackbill
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To: SJackson
Why call 911 when 357 will do?
51 posted on 05/09/2002 7:06:05 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: lowbridge, SJackson
Thanks for the belles bump (s) Lowbridge!

Sjackson, thnx for posting this...

52 posted on 05/09/2002 7:31:20 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: SJackson
Great post at #40! Thanks for the heads up!
53 posted on 05/09/2002 7:31:46 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: SJackson
Many people I know fear guns, even more so than they fear criminals. Most of these people also fear their neighbors more than they fear criminals. It's a visceral, non-reasoning fear of firearms. No amount of statistics, reasoning, education, etc., will help. The common complaint I hear is mostly: "Well, I just don't like guns."
54 posted on 05/09/2002 8:10:22 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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To: SJackson
You see the right to self protection, and sovernty over one's own person, is God given, and for that reason alone, any person has the right to be armed in their own home, and should ignore any law to the contrary.
55 posted on 05/09/2002 8:17:37 PM PDT by TJFLSTRAT
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Many people I know fear guns, even more so than they fear criminals. Most of these people also fear their neighbors more than they fear criminals. It's a visceral, non-reasoning fear of firearms. No amount of statistics, reasoning, education, etc., will help. The common complaint I hear is mostly: "Well, I just don't like guns."

You may be right about some, maybe many people.

But I think there's a big political correctness factor at play for many Americans, including many gun owners. I think many urban gun owners are intimidated by what they view as an un-PC climate, and that should change. And it can only change if gun owners speak out.

Your neighbors may fear guns, but I bet they don't fear you (hope I didn't step in one there) and you are the one whose freedom is abridged by gun laws. The guns don't care. And, IMO, the "non-reasoning" part comes largely from a lack of knowledge, not so much about firearms, which they may choose not to know about, but about gun owners. We've suffered from years of demonization, and we are the only ones who can change that in our friends and neighbors minds.

56 posted on 05/09/2002 8:29:29 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: TJFLSTRAT
You see the right to self protection, and sovernty over one's own person, is God given, and for that reason alone, any person has the right to be armed in their own home, and should ignore any law to the contrary.

Yes to the first part. I'm safe in my home, and see no laws to ignore. But I see laws that should be changed. We're a long way from "cold dead hands" time.

57 posted on 05/09/2002 8:32:13 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson
They may not fear me personally. They do fear that one of the neighbors (me or someone else unspecified) will go postal. They also fear militia movements but not gangs. (Some of them also smoke while worrying about eating non-organic foods.)
58 posted on 05/09/2002 8:38:19 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic
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To: sistergoldenhair; SJackson; .38sw
The point I was trying to make, didn't do it very well, was that women are inundated with stories of gun violence.  Many women are convinced that if you have a gun in the home it is far more likely to be used on a family member than on a perp.  Of course figures on those who have defended themselves successfully are rarely reported.  Then there's the woman who has never been around guns.  She's afraid of them.  I can't get my wife to even consider that she might need to use a gun to defend herself or a loved one.  She simply wants nothing to do with guns.  That's a normal reaction if you've been brainwashed without any counter programming.

Women by and large are convinced that guns are bad.  With the amount of them that obtain restraining orders, you'd think they'd understand the need for guns, but they don't.  Liberals feed off these women.  Every new gun law appeals to these women.  They invision a time when no guns will exist and fantacize how safe they will be.  Little do they know that they will then be vulnerable to any 225 pound a.h. that comes along.

Guns are the the great equalizer for women.  No women should be without one for self defense.  That's my take.

59 posted on 05/09/2002 8:49:31 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Doctor Stochastic
They may not fear me personally. They do fear that one of the neighbors (me or someone else unspecified) will go postal. They also fear militia movements but not gangs. (Some of them also smoke while worrying about eating non-organic foods.)

I understand. It's the result of blaming the hardware, not thinking of Dr. Stochastic, a friend, who is holding it. No short term solution to that, but I think a lot of the long term solution lies in teaching your neighbor to realize the Dr. Stochastic, my neighbor, is the issue.

The anti-gun lobby were brilliant in defining the issue in terms of hardware, rather than people (all our neighbors). We, you have to change that. And aside from your fearful neighbors, you have to make your "stealth" gun owning neighbors come out of the closet.

60 posted on 05/09/2002 9:10:13 PM PDT by SJackson
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