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Bush Chooses Clinton for East Timor Mission
USA Today ^ | 05/06/2002 | Bill Nichols

Posted on 05/07/2002 5:45:36 AM PDT by TonyInOhio

Edited on 04/13/2004 1:39:34 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON

(Excerpt) Read more at usatoday.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; clinton; clintonlegacy; diplomacy; easttimor; x42
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To: AmishDude
When was the last time that you heard of East Timor before this?

Last year. I don't recall what it was in reference to, but there was some unrest in the region and, as usual, we were sticking our noses into it.

Tuor

321 posted on 05/07/2002 7:43:50 PM PDT by Tuor
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To: Askel5; RLK
Send Bill Clinton To East Timor - The Child From Hope - The Man of Peace

Indonesian military forces linked to the carnage in East Timor were trained in the United States under a covert programme sponsored by the Clinton Administration

Is there an Al-Qaeda connection in Indonesia?

"But a relationship seems to remain between the Riadys and President Clinton. The Lippo boardroom in Hong Kong is decorated with a portrait of Mochtar Riady with Bill and Hillary (as well as a photo of Stephen Riady and President Bush)."

"gift of Mr. and Mrs. C. Joseph Giroir, Jr., in honor of Dr. and Mrs. Mochtar Riady"

Downside Legacy on C Joseph Giroir Jr.

"Stephens and his Worthen National Bank invested in Harken Energy, a Texas company in which George Bush, Jr., was a board member. "The money Stephens invested came through the Swiss BCCI subsidiary"

HARKEN - U.S. Securities and Exchange Records - George W. Bush Disregarded Federal Statutes

Gateway to Indonesia

Nita Nupress Links

'James Riady sent me'

The Riady Connection

Riady Guilty Plea – The Fix Was In

Bill Clinton Says: Riady Should Have Obeyed The Law

George W. Bush Says He Wants to Let Clinton 'Move On'

ROBERT RAY

No Bush Prosecutions on Chinagate - The damage is done. So there will be no prosecutions

GOP FOLDS ON CHINAGATE

Slouching Toward Servitude

322 posted on 05/07/2002 7:47:14 PM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: tomkat; Howlin
I haven't heard any official announcements. I found this on Yahoo though, at the link below....

An administration official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Tuesday the White House plans to announce the selection once the delegation is completed. They cautioned that Bush's decision won't be final until the complete delegation is formed, and that could take a few more days.

Clinton Likely in Timor Delegation
323 posted on 05/07/2002 7:52:11 PM PDT by firewalk
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To: TonyInOhio
It will be interesting to note Bill Clinton's demeanor and comportment as a hand picked member of President Bush's delegation to East Timor. I do hope Mr. Clinton will be able to contain his roving eyes and hands and not embarrass our President unneccessarily and/or nation by any behavior that is beyond the pale.

And, bar the stores that sell bathing suit thongs.

324 posted on 05/07/2002 7:59:12 PM PDT by harpo11
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To: NittanyLion
"That said, I think it's a tremendous mistake to give this man any legitimacy, and assignments representing the US - no matter how insignificant - do add legitimacy."

If it were my decision to make, I would certainly do as you suggest and not give X42 anyhing official to do.

But it isn't.

And I don't mind criticizing him for doing this - but at the same time - I do see the humor in it.

It's just that rape and treason are not very funny to most of us.

325 posted on 05/07/2002 8:00:31 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: BeforeISleep
thanks for that !
326 posted on 05/07/2002 8:24:43 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: sport
Apparently he has not pissed off 77 percent of the country 8 months removed from 911. Get a grip!!! East Timor, for cripe sakes. It's nothing, no where. It gets him out of the country and keeps his mouth shut about the middle east. Presidents have used ex-Presidents for this kind of "back page news" for eons. You guys sure are amusing.
327 posted on 05/07/2002 9:13:48 PM PDT by Kath
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To: Askel5
Hastert aide's ties to China riles Hill

Wow, they're riled.

Speaker Hastert appoints top China lobbyist - Hastert's national security adviser 'Li Ka-shing's person in Washington'

"National security advisor." LOL!

Chao has ties to Lippo Group

Chao confirmed without dissent: Bush's pick sails through Senate despite China, Lippo connections

Elaine Chao's ties to Chinese leader
"If confirmed, said the Asia expert, "she would come into [Bush's] Cabinet with a more intimate relationship with the president of China than with the president of the United States."

"During the furor of the Cox report, she was out there, leading protests against it and criticized it as 'racist,'" the source said."

HUANG - Associations with Riady (Lippo), Shen Jueren (China Resources), Kanchanalak and Hubble

Bank Lippo gets lion's share of first Indonesian recapitalisation fund
"Privately-run PT Bank Lippo will get as much as 87.5 percent of the first injection of Indonesian government funds under a banking recapitalisation program, an official document showed here Friday"

Lippo (CA) Bank to be sold
"Describing the sale as a "plain vanilla transaction," Mr. Lee also said it reflects efforts by the Riadys to raise funds to recapitalize Lippo Bank in Jakarta."

Where'd All That IMF Money Go LAST Year?

Jakarta Bourse Probes 29 Firms Over Price Manipulation - LIPPO


Foolin' them is easy isn't it? Heck yes.

328 posted on 05/07/2002 9:16:11 PM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: TonyInOhio
I can't believe this. You can't appease Democrats. You would be better off making friends with a cobra. Didn't he learn anything from Dad's experience? "Read my lips...well, maybe just a little tax...'cause the Democrats are sure we need it."
329 posted on 05/07/2002 9:23:59 PM PDT by Rocky
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To: TonyInOhio
Please tell me this is not true.
330 posted on 05/07/2002 9:25:51 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: TonyInOhio
The officials say the selection is meant as a peace overture to Clinton, whose presidency has been criticized repeatedly by Bush...

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When was this criticism? I, personally, have never heard any.

331 posted on 05/07/2002 9:27:45 PM PDT by RLK
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To: rintense
I do not agree with the President on this either! I am stunned! What in the world is going on here?
332 posted on 05/07/2002 9:30:07 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: TonyInOhio
Bush is nuts. Anything that that confers any recognition or respectability of any kind upon the Clintons is an act of treason.
333 posted on 05/07/2002 9:34:42 PM PDT by RLK
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To: Miss Marple
Interesting to see that this happened before the situation in the Mid East came to a head today. His getting Clinton as far away as possible....BRILLIANT !!!
334 posted on 05/07/2002 9:47:10 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: doug from upland
We want the RATS to sit it out in 2004 ----- not us!

I disagree Doug. In the last decade, what was the best year for government? My choice is 95, right after the election of 94. Remember that, GOP landslide, Contract with America. What made it all possible? Letting the Dems run things for 2 years. What gave us Ronald Reagan? 4 years of Carter!

I don't advocate anyone sitting out. They should vote for some third party schmuck rather than not vote. Not voting is the only wasted vote because candidates don't give a damn about people that don't vote. But this urge to vote for any weasely GOP for fear of losing one election to the Dems will only insure we never get anything but weasely GOPers. I'll not be voting for Bush again (and not because of this but because of not investigating Clinton era crimes).

335 posted on 05/07/2002 9:53:56 PM PDT by Earn Your Vote
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To: Earn Your Vote
I do fear losing one election --- to Hillary Clinton. If these were normal times and the RATS were not controlled by the far left who hate this country, we might have more on which we could agree. Hillary changes everything. It is not hyperbole. She could destroy this nation. You know very well there is nothing she would not do for power.
336 posted on 05/07/2002 9:57:21 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
If it is Hillary, then you are probably right and I might have to vote for W, if it looks close. I don't think I will have to worry about that, though. (I hope)
337 posted on 05/07/2002 10:09:04 PM PDT by Earn Your Vote
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To: Uncle Bill
A keeper, thanks.
338 posted on 05/07/2002 10:13:51 PM PDT by lakey
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To: Askel5; lakey
My Picnic With Bill

Bush Says He Wants to Let Clinton 'Move On'
"Listen, here's my view: I think it's time to get all of this business behind us. I think it's time ... to allow the president to finish his term, and let him move on and enjoy life and become an active participant in the American system. And I think we've had enough focus on the past. It's time to move forward."

Warning - Very, Very Graphic Photo - (Slaughtered Christians)

Clinton Red China Deal on East Timor at UN -- Active US Opposition to Taiwan for E. Timor Chicom "Civilian Police"

Clinton Offers East Timor Support: American Troops to go to War in East Timor

Clinton Administration Trained "Butchers” of East Timor

Somebody Has Gas
Note: The United States is beefing up its intelligence support for the Australian-led peacekeeping contingent in East Timor
Note: Clinton met with Riady during Australia Trip

Riadys Calling in Clinton's Marker in East Timor?

Why the U.S. is balking over Indonesia

Jihad: 63,000 Christians To Be Slaughtered in Poso, Indonesia, in 2 Weeks

Indonesia group tied to al Qaeda kills Christians
Note: China has developed increasingly close ties with the Taliban and, according to news reports, recently signed a memorandum of understanding for more economic and technical cooperation. - September 13, 2001

10,000 sword carrying Muslims announce launching of Jihad against Christians in Indonesia

Christians terrorized in Muslim Indonesia: Islamic militants praising bin Laden

Terrorism Against Christians Intensifying in Indonesia

Thousands of Indonesia Christians Flee

Former Pakistani Intelligence Chief Wants Muslim-Communist Alliance

NIA then told him that her fervent wish was to meet with President Clinton to convey her profound sadness in seeing so much human suffering in this world and to plead with President Clinton, the leader of the most powerful Nation on the earth, to intervene and to put a stop to the endless violence and suffering. NIA mentioned and told about places like Timor, Aceh, Ambon and Irian, even though NIA had never attended an Indonesian school, she appeared to know those places. The Doctor was very surprised and did not know what to answer as he never expected this young child to utter such words.

"Today, the world will not believe what happened in the White House. Apparently today a little 13-year-old girl came to the White House to meet the President. She just asked for peace in the country where she was born and safety as well for the children. Her name will be carved in the history of the White House."

Bill Clinton: NIA, let me show you some of my special places in the White House.

CLINTON: "My only enemy is right-wing religious fundamentalism."

339 posted on 05/08/2002 1:49:38 AM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: RLK
"Bush is nuts. Anything that confers any recognition or respectability of any kind upon the Clintons is an act of treason."

Perhaps it's compassionate treason though. What a great article Robert, thanks for your work. 'We are struggling to find a balance in our two countries to not just tolerate people who are different, but actually venerate those differences, respect them, celebrate them, in the context of our common humanity,' Let's all hold hands and hum. George W. Bush has sent Tenet back to the Middle East to help build a Palestinian security force to fight terrorism. LOL! But I have it on good authority that Tenet is taking his diversity quilt. That should do it. Hummmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

"President Clinton was deeply involved in helping bringing about a peaceful resolution to East Timor," the Bush administration official said."

East Timor Shows 'Clinton Doctrine' Is Empty Rhetoric

340 posted on 05/08/2002 2:20:21 AM PDT by Uncle Bill
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