Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Jews hail Le Pen defeat in France, see more danger
MSNBC/Reuters ^ | 5/6/02 | staff

Posted on 05/05/2002 11:33:46 PM PDT by LarryLied

France's Jewish community, Europe's largest, welcomed the defeat of extreme right leader Jean-Marie Le Pen in the presidential election on Sunday but warned that his score was worryingly high nonetheless.

''The French people have rejected the danger represented by Jean-Marie Le Pen, champion of the anti-Semitic, racist and xenophobic extreme right,'' the 600,000-strong Jewish community's main representative body, the CRIF, said in a statement.

Le Pen, who once called the Nazi gas chambers a ''detail'' of history, secured 18 percent in a runoff against Jacques Chirac, the conservative incumbent. That was marginally higher than Le Pen scored two weeks ago in a shock first-round vote.

The CRIF said Chirac's victory ''should not conceal the concern represented by the still overly large number of people who lost their way.''

Similar concerns were voiced in the United States.

Abraham Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League that fights religious, ethnic and racial discrimination, said it was disturbing to see Le Pen nearing 20 percent.

''The good news is that he was defeated. The bad news, the sad news, is that one out of five French voters ignored the fact, or it didn't matter, or they liked they fact that he was a racist, a bigot, an anti-Semite,'' Foxman said.

Most French left-wing parties called on their supporters to back Chirac, like it or not, to shut Le Pen out.

Referring to French parliamentary elections taking place in June, the CRIF said there should be ''no compromise'' with extreme rightists. Le Pen's anti-immigrant National Front is expected to field a large number of candidates.

PROUD TO BE FRENCH

German-born Beate Klarsfeld, who lives in Paris with her husband Serge, a French Jewish Nazi-hunter, welcomed Sunday's vote, saying a Le Pen breakthrough would amount to a return to the days of the pro-Nazi Vichy regime of World War Two.

''Bravo for France! This vote shows the French people do not want to return to the past and do not want to be ruled by despicable people nostalgic for the Vichy regime,'' she said.

Her son Arno, a lawyer who campaigns with his parents, added: ''I am very proud to be Frenchman tonight.

''Contrary to what one hears abroad, France is not a racist country and its people have shown again that they know how to rally together when there is a danger threatening them.''

Le Pen's firebrand anti-immigrant rhetoric fuels fear among both Jews and Europe's largest Muslim population, which is mostly of North African origin.

A row broke out among French Jews last month when it emerged that some had voted for Le Pen in the first round on April 21.

Michel Zerbib, editor at Jewish radio station Radio J, said up to five percent of Jewish voters were estimated to have voted for Le Pen in the first round, most of them people living in blue collar areas with big Arab populations.

One explanation was that their vote was directed against the Muslim community of around five million, following a wave of anti-Jewish violence apparently linked to the conflict in the Middle East between Israel and the Palestinians.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: franceisrael; jews; lepen
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-50 next last
To: LarryLied
LOL
21 posted on 05/06/2002 8:48:48 AM PDT by weikel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Texasforever
Wonder??? They are like moths drawn to the flame. Go Figure!
22 posted on 05/06/2002 10:22:41 AM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: LarryLied
Catholic bishop denounces Le Pen Independent News | John Lichfield

The comments by Monsigneur Olivier de Berranger, bishop of Saint-Denis, will infuriate Mr Le Pen, who claims to be a devout Christian, guided and assisted by God. The bishop said no "clear-minded Catholic" should consider voting fo Mr Le Pen, who was "the heir to a totalitarian and anti-Christian" tradition.

I suppose now you will attack this Catholic Bishop. Or is it only Jews that appear in your crosshairs?

23 posted on 05/06/2002 10:52:01 AM PDT by scratchgolfer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Texasforever
What about Catholics? Do they have a death wish too?
24 posted on 05/06/2002 10:52:55 AM PDT by scratchgolfer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: LarryLied
Foxman might spend a little of his time wondering why some of our Jews in congress and the senate seem to "lost the way". Schumer, Feinstein, Boxer and the rest of the anti-Second bunch come immediately to mind. I'd like to see his bunch of idiots try to peddle their anti self-defense rot in Israel.
25 posted on 05/06/2002 11:02:41 AM PDT by jsraggmann
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: LarryLied
French Jews really don't get it, do they? Was Le Pen the candidate who visited mosque after mosque across France to pander to the Muslims, while doing nothing about rampant anti-Jew attacks?
26 posted on 05/06/2002 11:10:34 AM PDT by montag813
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: scratchgolfer
Or is it only Jews that appear in your crosshairs?

I despise all socialists. I am not responsible for how groups tend to vote. You take it up with them if you like.

If I went after Rabbi Lapin, Mark Levin and Ilena Ross-Lehtinen your snotty insinuation might have validity. But I don't go after them. I support them 100%. So you don't have a point.

Take your Identity Politics, race-baiting nonsense to the Democratic Party, why don't you? They love that garbage.

27 posted on 05/06/2002 12:20:48 PM PDT by LarryLied
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

Comment #28 Removed by Moderator

To: LarryLied
Le Pen is worse than the Muslims who torch synagogues. Le Pen said the Holocaust is a "detail" of history.

You meant this as a sarcasm, didn't you? If I had a choice between someone who said bad things about me and someone who did bad things to me, I would--well, I would get the hell out of France, but first I would go to the polls and vote for the guy who only said the bad things.

Besides, I'm not aware of Le Pen actually having said anything hateful about Jews. He just said he was not a fan of them, which is not surprising, given that the French love only themselves. I'm not a fan of Michael Jackson, but I don't want to kill him or torch his studios.

29 posted on 05/06/2002 12:45:50 PM PDT by Smile-n-Win
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: LarryLied
Yup, he could have said, "I support Isreal and Aral Sharon and all the arm chair generals have to lay off and let Isreal defend its people." Oh, wait, he did say that in a Guardian interview!!! Ooops, could it be that this guy is just a nationalist who believes in a nation preserving its culture and people from 3rd world Islamic invaders? Well, once France becomes Islamic thanks to the main stream politicians, we'll see just how safe the Jews will be then. If I were the Jews of France, I'd start practicing wearing grass shoes and never looking anyone in the eye...that's the usual lot of Dhimmies in Islamic nations.
30 posted on 05/06/2002 2:27:01 PM PDT by Stavka2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Smile-n-Win
I was being sarcastic. The "he is an antisemite" whine is only used to deflect attention from the liberalism of Jews in France. If the vast majority didn't vote left, far left, Trotskyite or communist it would not be an issue.
31 posted on 05/06/2002 2:32:09 PM PDT by LarryLied
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: Millburn Drysdale
Actually LePen has stated, just like Hader did, that he wants less government, not just of the EU varity but also of the French variety and a lot lower taxes. Go figure, in most countries he would be called a conservative, in Socialist EUland he is a NAZI (who were socialists themselves...again, go figure).
32 posted on 05/06/2002 2:32:38 PM PDT by Stavka2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: LarryLied
Trotsky was also a failed movie star (Holywood) and a union leader (NYC). He was an American...go figure.
33 posted on 05/06/2002 2:35:08 PM PDT by Stavka2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: scratchgolfer
The Catholics and Protestants have had a death wish for a long time...after all, it is these cultures that tripe the crap about "Islam, religion of peace." . You don't see us Orthodox saying such nonsense.
34 posted on 05/06/2002 2:37:35 PM PDT by Stavka2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: LarryLied
Well Larry, I must confess ambivalence on this one. I hope you're not too comfortable touting an article that has Abe Foxman as a talking head. I doubt you get your cues from his ilk.

At first glance it appears to me that LePen has gotten the same broad tar brush as Buchanan....a few seemingly insensitive comments over a highly sensitized topic and then the whole world regards one as a jackbooted Nazi. Yet just last week LePen was on record fully supporting Israel's right to defend herself....something shockingly few Euro-Politicos have done recently. I admit I do not know enough of the particulars on LePen to condemn him....the insensitive comments about "details" are not enough in my view and I believe that the French Arabs are a greater threat to Jews and Christians alike than LePen or his cronies.

Odd isn't it? Anyone to the right or far right (like me) are automatically assumed to be anti-Jew yet who has just quite recently been Israel's staunchest supporters here in the US. Folks just like me Larry. Southern hard right gun owning white protestant "bad boys"....that's who....and in a higher proportion even than American Jews. Incredible. I saw one poll of Southern Baptists where the pollster could find not one person who would side with the Pali's and their cause ...that's 100% support. And it's not all evangelical rapture ....it's simply how we salt of the earth types recognize right and wrong....and enemies when we see it.

Yet, give it another month and if all goes back to the normal Mexican standoff in the Middle East, all our support will be forgotten and we'll go back to being stereotyped as Jew-hating rednceks. IT GETS OLD.

35 posted on 05/06/2002 2:56:01 PM PDT by wardaddy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: LarryLied
I thought Illena was Cuban? Dexter is Jewish?....poor fellow...'Nam was hard on him.
36 posted on 05/06/2002 3:02:35 PM PDT by wardaddy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Stavka2
That's because you guys have more hands on recent experience with the Religion of Peace crowd than we do....but we're learning....however slowly. One could make the same head in the sand observance between Israelis and American Jews. It's a matter of one's persepctive and how close that perspective is. I keep thinking of those "nasty Serbs" or "heavy-handed Russians dealing with Chechnya".
37 posted on 05/06/2002 3:08:05 PM PDT by wardaddy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: LarryLied
scratchgolfer: "Or is it only Jews that appear in your crosshairs?"

LarryLied: "Take your Identity Politics, race-baiting nonsense to the Democratic Party, why don't you? They love that garbage."

Scratchgolfer is from Montgomery County, Maryland. What did you expect?

38 posted on 05/06/2002 3:32:53 PM PDT by Godebert
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: wardaddy
I thought Illena was Cuban?

That she is. A typical conservative. She is more interested in ideas than making a big point over her faith. Lots of Democrats despise her because she is such a fierce anticommunist. Guess that makes them, by the criteria we have seen on this thread, antisemites.

39 posted on 05/06/2002 4:13:09 PM PDT by LarryLied
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: LarryLied
I'm sure they'll be much safer as Chirac invites more of their Muslims friends in.
40 posted on 05/06/2002 11:09:08 PM PDT by Michael2001
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-50 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson