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Puerto Rico Mob Attacks Marines
Associated Press / yahoo.com/news ^
| Tue Apr 23, 2:13 PM ET
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Posted on 04/23/2002 11:22:12 AM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: OldFriend
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Did you know that Puerto Ricans living in the States get to vote in the island elections? How accomodating! And, of course, Puetro Ricans that never left the island get to vote for primary elections in the states! George W. Bush won the "Puetro Rican primary" by a nice margin. I think they got eight delegates or something. I guess non-taxpayers in a non-state get more representation than some people who actually LIVE and WORK in the United States!
To: Walkin Man
If we ever need Puerto Rico once it is immediately made independent we can use the United States Marine Corps to get it whipped right into shape.While this military institution normally does contain one or another Puerto Ricans, their absence will not matter much,and if they go over to the Puerto Rican side they will last five or six minutes. I doubt the noble savages will put up much resistance. Meanwhile , if we don't need the illiterate and unsavory denizens of that place, why spend billions so they can have government services of an unusually high order-- except to serve as just one more example of the fact that if the government will take care of everything, why do anything?
To: Walkin Man
If we ever need Puerto Rico once it is immediately made independent we can use the United States Marine Corps to get it whipped right into shape.While this military institution normally does contain one or another Puerto Ricans, their absence will not matter much,and if they go over to the Puerto Rican side they will last five or six minutes. I doubt the noble savages will put up much resistance. Meanwhile , if we don't need the illiterate and unsavory denizens of that place, why spend billions so they can have government services of an unusually high order-- except to serve as just one more example of the fact that if the government will take care of everything, why do anything?
To: Walkin Man
Our local news here in Norfolk claims differently. The local news is reporting that they will be returning here tonight. However, they actually started the brawl. That's ashame.
To: FreedomPoster
I really don't want to repeat this, but I will:
I happen to know the island quite well. Good parts and bad parts. (and not just on some 2 week vacation either) but over several long visits for over 20 years. As keen on the media as you might think you are, they are only showing you the Puerto Ricans today who can be compared to our country's "green party". Remember the Seattle riots? Otherwise, the oppinion of MPuerto Ricans regarding independence is a little under 50% want U.S. statehood and the other half want the status quo. Very few are for independence. They see what happens to latin american countries when they become independent...(it becomes a socialist/dictatorship) and they enjoy the American lifestyle that the status quo has brought them (like clean running tap water and modern luxuruies as well as a fantastic tourism economy). More importantly, they are American citizens, which lets them enter the U.S. freely. The U.S. likes to keep P.R. around for a strategic military base (rent free), And P.R. knows that if the U.S. cuts them off it'll just become another banana republic.
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04/23/2002 8:48:27 PM PDT
by
paltz
To: takenoprisoner
Roger on that. We lost a Beach Master team one evening in '75 to "cowboys". No deaths but drug and beaten. From then on we rau P.T. with ax and pick handles.
To: paltz
Rent Free? The navy owns it's property on viegues. And 13 billion in tax dollars buys a little something.
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04/23/2002 9:32:54 PM PDT
by
aimlow
To: ibbryn
That is the least of it, don't they can vote? They get welfare, social security, medicade, medicare, wic, and SES, from what I understand.
To: luvbach1; Clemenza
The term "gringo" is only pejorative when used in a negative context. When is the term Gringo used in a positive sense? Americans sometimes use it non-pejoratively to refer to themselves, but I've lived in San Diego near the Mexican border for 50 years and I've never heard it used by Mexicans, and especially Chicanos, in other context than pejorative. It's the equivalent of "beaner" for Mexican.
I'm Cuban American and I met a Chicano a couple of years ago at a mutual friend's birthday party. We were seated at the same table. Since I am 6'3'', white and blue eyed, he assumed I was "Anglo".
When he began to complain about how "Hispanics" cannot succeed in the USA, I switched the conversation from English to Spanish, much to his surprise, and told him that I was "Hispanic" myself and was doing quite well although my father and I landed in the USA when I was 6 with nothing but the clothes in our suitcases.
He then said that was because I was "Gringo". "Since every ancestor in my family tree came from a Spanish line, why do you say that I am a Gringo?", I asked him. His reply was that I was white. To him, a Gringo was simply anyone who was white and not of Indian blood.
To: Clemenza
THe reason they have said "no" to independence is that they will lose the "bennies" from Uncle Sam. Whether through government jobs, jobs on the bases or food stamps, the average Boricua is dependent on the fed for his/her livelihood. PR is the turd of the Carribean. Thank you for your opinion. I was kinda looking for facts though.
To: Walkin Man
I thought Puerto Rico was a province (or is it 'territory'?) of the USA. It was also my understanding that in the past, there were talks of making it the 51st state, but that was unpopular because their low income status would have placed them all on our welfare roles. Other than having once worked with a sergeant in the Air Force who was from Puerto Rico (and he was a very pleasant guy), that's about all I know about the country.
To: varon
LOL!
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To: Walkin Man
The Navy has retracted it's original story and is now saying that the Marines were drunk and had got kicked out of a strip club by bouncers and that is how the fight got started. Get the latest version
here.
To: Walkin Man
"A mob armed with bats and pipes attacked 10 U.S. Navy Marines,leaving one with a cranial fracture"Bump for the Devil DogsOh just great next thing the U.S. is going to get a bill for broken bats & pipes.
liberty call in PR
"don't shoot him, you'll just make him mad"
To: SouthronGenX
SouthronGenX member since April 23rd, 2002
To: SouthronGenX
you have the dreaded "member since" argument......sometimes that means you are making good points, which you are.
To: Polybius
In most of Latin America, the term "gringo" is used for most foreigners, particularly those from the US, Canada and Northern Europe. In Argentina at least, Italians and Spaniards are NOT referred to as "gringo." In the other countries that I visited, the rules are similar.
In Mexico, for example, the term "gringo" is used for foreigners. For the average Mexican, however, anyone with fair skin and/or light eyes, even if they were born in Mexico, is referred to as "guero" (pronounced "weddo"). As far as the Chicanos are concerned, they have a whole different terminology altogether. --- Un gringo se llama Clemenza
To: BillyBoy
I'd be glad to vote to have Florida change from state to commonwealth status. Then I'd pay now income tax. My vote for Pres. or Congress doesn't count anyway since I usually vote Libertarian. As a bonus, the condo commie DemocRATS in South Florida wouldn't be screwing up any more elections!
To: paltz
The term "gringo" There are two explanations for this term:
1. It is a deriviative of the medeval Spanish word for "Greek", which was synomous with "foreigner" at the time.
2. During the Mexican-American war, the Mexican soldiers heard American soldiers singing a then popular tune on many occasions that went something like "green go the lilacs."
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