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To: dixiechick2000; William Tell; 1Old Pro; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; a_federalist; abner; aculeus...
"The solution to the problem posed in this article is to examine the notebooks kept by the scientists in question."

Absolutely correct! - This is the only way to settle it. - No entry, no honor.

If they really were testing the system, then there will be a diary of the actions. (fry'em now and get it over with)

17 posted on 04/23/2002 11:55:36 AM PDT by editor-surveyor
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In my place of employment, failure to keep accurate and up to date (cosigned within appropriate time period by researcher in non related field even) results in FIRING.
18 posted on 04/23/2002 12:02:56 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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If JR found out a "scientist" planted lynx hair on Southfork, that "scientist" would soon be pulled over by a friendly deputy who would find a stuffed lynx and some eagle feathers in his trunk. Also, an envelope full of cash, and a note saying "You get the rest of the money when you deliver the lynx."
23 posted on 04/23/2002 12:26:31 PM PDT by jrewingjr
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Okay, let's jeteson them into space for practice...
26 posted on 04/23/2002 12:35:17 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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Thanks for the ping.

The real question here is: will these people be sanctioned by their peers? Or will wrists be slapped, harsh words huffily spoken, and counciling given to the perpetrators?

I'm not sure it matters any longer. These unethical biologists have actually done regular US citizens a favor by giving us a legal precedent upon which to challenge federal wildlife studies for years to come. The GAO says the validity of ALL federal wildlife studies has come into question on the grounds of this and other unethical behavior, and questionable findings based upon no supportable evidence.

If they are NOT sanctioned by the Wildlife Society, the biologists methods will not suddenly become either "justified" or "valid". Instead, the public will call the motives and ethics of all the current members of the Wildlife Society into question.

29 posted on 04/23/2002 12:47:19 PM PDT by cake_crumb
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"(fry'em now and get it over with)"

Deep fry the wacko, enviro-nazis, now !!

31 posted on 04/23/2002 12:58:50 PM PDT by blackie
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To: editor-surveyor
If they really were testing the system, then there will be a diary of the actions

The next excuse will be they were too busy to keep their notebooks up to date.
These people are activists in scientists' clothing.
It is encouraging, however, that this story hasn't died.

32 posted on 04/23/2002 1:05:27 PM PDT by sistergoldenhair
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"The grossly unethical actions by certain members of their organization have substantially undermined the public's confidence, and I hope the Wildlife Society will show zero tolerance if it draws the same conclusion the General Accounting Office and the administration have drawn," Mr. McInnis said.

I hope so, too.

34 posted on 04/23/2002 1:15:46 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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How did I get on your bump list? I appreciate the gesture, but my time is limited.
35 posted on 04/23/2002 1:32:51 PM PDT by GOPcapitalist
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BTTT!!!!!
39 posted on 04/23/2002 2:41:20 PM PDT by E.G.C.
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"The solution to the problem posed in this article is to examine the notebooks kept by the scientists in question."

Bump.

50 posted on 04/23/2002 5:48:56 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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Absolutely correct! - This is the only way to settle it. - No entry, no honor.

In a rational world, that's what would happen.

Even if they are reprimanded and/or dimissed, these folks are probably
on the fast track for awards from The Sierra Club, etc.
51 posted on 04/23/2002 6:02:39 PM PDT by VOA
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Bump
53 posted on 04/23/2002 6:48:44 PM PDT by mafree
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The Wildlife Society has a code of ethics and standards for professional conduct, and it appears the employees may have breached "several of those canons," Mr. Thomas said.

For all the talk from the govt about "codes of ethics and standards," there doesn't seem to be much interest in actually following these standards. Why bother with a code if no one is going to follow it in the first place, or there are no sanctions against those that don't?

57 posted on 04/24/2002 6:13:58 AM PDT by serinde
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