Anti-Semitism Today by Oriana Fallaci

I find it shameful that in Italy there should be a procession of individuals dressed as suicide bombers who spew vile abuse at Israel, hold up photographs of Israeli leaders on whose foreheads they have drawn the swasitka, incite people to hate the Jews. And who, in order to see Jews once again in the extermination camps, in the gas chambers, in the ovens of Dachau and Mauthausen and Buchenwald and Bergen-Belsen et cetera, would sell their own mother to a harem.

I find it shameful that the Catholic Church should permit a bishop, one with lodgings in the Vatican no less, a saintly man who was found in Jerusalem with an arsenal of arms and explosives hidden in the secret compartments of his sacred Mercedes, to participate in that procession and plant himself in front of a microphone to thank in the name of God the suicide bombers who massacre the Jews in pizzerias and supermarkets. To call them "martyrs who go to their deaths as to a party."

I find it shameful that in France, the France of Liberty-Equality-Fraternity, they burn synagogues, terrorize Jews, profane their cemeteries. I find it shameful that the youth of Holland and Germany and Denmark flaunt the kaffiah just as Mussolini's avant garde used to flaunt the club and the fascist badge. I find it shameful that in nearly all the universities of Europe Palestinian students sponsor and nurture anti-semitism. That in Sweden they asked that the Nobel Peace Prize given to Shimon Peres in 1994 be taken back and conferred on the dove with the olive branch in his mouth, that is on Arafat. I find it shameful that the distinguished members of the Committee, a Committee that (it would appear) rewards political color rather than merit, should take this request into consideration and even respond to it. In hell the Nobel Prize honors he who does not receive it.

I find it shameful (we're back in Italy) that state-run television stations contribute to the resurgent antisemitism, crying only over Palestinian deaths while playing down Israeli deaths, glossing over them in unwilling tones. I find it shameful that in their debates they host with much deference the scoundrels with turban or kaffiah who yesterday sang hymns to the slaughter at New York and today sing hymns to the slaughters at Jerusalem, at Haifa, at Netanya, at Tel Aviv. I find it shameful that the press does the same, that it is indignant because Israeli tanks surround the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem, that it is not indignant because inside that same church two hundred Palestinian terrorists well armed with machine guns and munitions and explosives (among them are various leaders of Hamas and Al-Aqsa) are not unwelcome guests of the monks (who then accept bottles of mineral water and jars of honey from the soldiers of those tanks). I find it shameful that, in giving the number of Israelis killed since the beginning of the Second Intifada (four hundred twelve), a noted daily newspaper found it appropriate to underline in capital letters that more people are killed in their traffic accidents. (Six hundred a year).

I find it shameful that the Roman Observer, the newspaper of the Pope--a Pope who not long ago left in the Wailing Wall a letter of apology for the Jews--accuses of extermination a people who were exterminated in the millions by Christians. By Europeans. I find it shameful that this newspaper denies to the survivors of that people (survivors who still have numbers tattooed on their arms) the right to react, to defend themselves, to not be exterminated again. I find it shameful that in the name of Jesus Christ (a Jew without whom they would all be unemployed), the priests of our parishes or Social Centers or whatever they are flirt with the assassins of those in Jerusalem who cannot go to eat a pizza or buy some eggs without being blown up. I find it shameful that they are on the side of the very ones who inaugurated terrorism, killing us on airplanes, in airports, at the Olympics, and who today entertain themselves by killing western journalists. By shooting them, abducting them, cutting their throats, decapitating them.

(There's someone in Italy who, since the appearance of Anger and Pride, would like to do the same to me. Citing verses of the Koran he exorts his "brothers" in the mosques and the Islamic Community to chastise me in the name of Allah. To kill me. Or rather to die with me. Since he's someone who speaks English well, I'll respond to him in English: "---- you.")

I find it shameful that almost all of the left, the left that twenty years ago permitted one of its union processionals to deposit a coffin (as a mafioso warning) in front of the synagogue of Rome, forgets the contribution made by the Jews to the fight against fascism. Made by Carlo and Nello Rossini, for example, by Leone Ginzburg, by Umberto Terracini, by Leo Valiani, by Emilio Sereni, by women like my friend Anna Maria Enriques Agnoletti who was shot at Florence on June 12, 1944, by seventy-five of the three-hundred-thirty-five people killed at the Fosse Ardeatine, by the infinite others killed under torture or in combat or before firing squads. (The companions, the teachers, of my infancy and my youth.)

I find it shameful that in part through the fault of the left--or rather, primarily through the fault of the left (think of the left that inaugurates its congresses applauding the representative of the PLO, leader in Italy of the Palestinians who want the destruction of Israel)--Jews in Italian cities are once again afraid. And in French cities and Dutch cities and Danish cities and German cities, it is the same. I find it shameful that Jews tremble at the passage of the scoundrels dressed like suicide bombers just as they trembled during Krystallnacht, the night in which Hitler gave free rein to the Hunt of the Jews.

I find it shameful that in obedience to the stupid, vile, dishonest, and for them extremely advantageous fashion of Political Correctness the usual opportunists--or better the usual parasites--exploit the word Peace. That in the name of the word Peace, by now more debauched than the words Love and Humanity, they absolve one side alone of its hate and bestiality. That in the name of a pacifism (read conformism) delegated to the singing crickets and buffoons who used to lick Pol Pot's feet they incite people who are confused or ingenuous or intimidated. Trick them, corrupt them, carry them back a half century to the time of the yellow star on the coat. These charlatans who care about the Palestinians as much as I care about the charlatans. That is not at all.

I find it shameful that many Italians and many Europeans have chosen as their standard-bearer the gentleman (or so it is polite to say) Arafat. This nonentity who thanks to the money of the Saudi Royal Family plays the Mussolini ad perpetuum and in his megalomania believes he will pass into History as the George Washington of Palestine. This ungrammatical wretch who when I interviewed him was unable even to put together a complete sentence, to make articulate conversation. So that to put it all together, write it, publish it, cost me a tremendous effort and I concluded that compared to him even Ghaddafi sounds like Leonardo da Vinci.

This false warrior who always goes around in uniform like Pinochet, never putting on civilian garb, and yet despite this has never participated in a battle. War is something he sends, has always sent, others to do for him. That is, the poor souls who believe in him. This pompous incompetent who playing the part of Head of State caused the failure of the Camp David negotiations, Clinton's mediation. No-no-I-want-Jerusalem-all-to-myself. This eternal liar who has a flash of sincerity only when (in private) he denies Israel's right to exist, and who as I say in my book contradicts himself every five minutes. He always plays the double-cross, lies even if you ask him what time it is, so that you can never trust him. Never! With him you will always wind up systematically betrayed.

This eternal terrorist who knows only how to be a terrorist (while keeping himself safe) and who during the Seventies, that is when I interviewed him, even trained the terrorists of Baader-Meinhof. With them, children ten years of age. Poor children. (Now he trains them to become suicide bombers. A hundred baby suicide bombers are in the works: a hundred!).

This weathercock who keeps his wife at Paris, served and revered like a queen, and keeps his people down in the shit. He takes them out of the shit only to send them to die, to kill and to die, like the eighteen year old girls who in order to earn equality with men have to strap on explosives and disintegrate with their victims. And yet many Italians love him, yes. Just like they loved Mussolini. And many other Europeans do the same.

I find it shameful and see in all this the rise of a new fascism, a new nazism. A fascism, a nazism, that much more grim and revolting because it is conducted and nourished by those who hypocritically pose as do-gooders, progressives, communists, pacifists, Catholics or rather Christians, and who have the gall to label a warmonger anyone like me who screams the truth.

I see it, yes, and I say the following. I have never been tender with the tragic and Shakespearean figure Sharon. ("I know you've come to add another scalp to your necklace," he murmured almost with sadness when I went to interview him in 1982.) I have often had disagreements with the Israelis, ugly ones, and in the past I have defended the Palestinians a great deal. Maybe more than they deserved. But I stand with Israel, I stand with the Jews.

I stand just as I stood as a young girl during the time when I fought with them, and when the Anna Marias were shot. I defend their right to exist, to defend themselves, to not let themselves be exterminated a second time. And disgusted by the antisemitism of many Italians, of many Europeans, I am ashamed of this shame that dishonors my Country and Europe. At best, it is not a community of States, but a pit of Pontius Pilates. And even if all the inhabitants of this planet were to think otherwise, I would continue to think so.

Dear Nix

This has been an interesting exercise for me.

Ever the relentless [Tongue-in-cheek, to be sure!] pursuer of Truth; the passionate and almost Quixotic champion of the underdog; detesting cruelty and injustice – and having a passion for justice and an insatiable curiosity to match, I was interested to hear what the atheistic totalitarian socialist Fallaci had to say about Europe’s obscene and revealing neo pogroms.

And, for an atheistic totalitarian socialist, Fallaci said what she said very well indeed.

Her indictment of Europe’s appalling history of institutionalized hatred of The Jewish People is as complete as it is obscene.

But, sadly for Truth, Justice and The American Way, Fallaci, being the "good" atheistic totalitarian socialist that she is, couldn’t miss the opportunity to take a libelous swipe at the Church of her childhood. That Church whose fellow-fallen former female followers of Fallaci’s age group are heavily overrepresented in the locked wards of the world’s mental hospitals; their lives of youthful promiscuity and abandon having, in their dotage, come back, one might say, to haunt them!

And so in an otherwise quite impressive article she threw in the atheistic totalitarian socialists’ tired old libel about the Catholic Church and her side’s Christian-hating [And mass-murdering] atheistic totalitarian-socialist, National Socialist Workers’ Party, pagan-heathen, Hitler.

And I protested that single lie.

And then, amazed at the reaction and at what happened next, stayed around to see what crawled out from under what rocks and what appearance of what "evidence" other Fallaci-like Christian haters would have lined up in support of Fallaci’s atheistic-totalitarian-socialists' tired old libel about NAZI paganism and the Catholic Church!

And what an interesting experience that has been.

And now I am bored with it and will move on.

And continue to pray that any that cannot see the error of his way – and before his hatred and rage consumes him and those around him – is shown the Light.

G-d bless Y’All!

Articles like this remind us where we are all headed.
This reality is not just the machinations of physical man..but spiritual
Looking back..we can discern corruption in many systems..from government to religion,..in our time we see the return.
Yet we were warned that this would occur...the drawback...is it is not just localized to Jew hatred..eventually it will progress to those who believe upon the testimony of their Creator.
The lines of division are only beginning..in time..those who follow not after the world will find themselves objects of scorn ..rejection and violence.
We see Islam flying off the handle...Anti-semitism..railing accusation against the Church over its faults.
The bottom line is man is succumbing to evil imaginations.
Sophisticated types..and there are lots..will say this is sequential..cause and effect.
Yet they are wrong..it isn't..its spiritual..and it is leathal.
WW-2 and other realities remind us of what can happen when man is decieved..the outcome horrific.

Your mistake, Brian, is that facts is facts whether we like them or not. I never accused the entire Christian world OR the Church, but you can't say there was no portion of either, including the Muslims in North Africa, who helped Hitler or at least stayed out of the way. There are heroic stories on the other side of this issue as well. So what, exactly, did you learn? We know Fallaci's history. It doesn't make what she said any less true OR false. History is not a guessing game when it was such a short while ago that people who were there can still speak of it.
This isn't about the Church. It's about evil. PEOPLE do evil.
Not to mention that you were extremely unfair to Prodigal Daughter in the accusations you made against her just to play what you THINK was an intellectual game.
It wasn't intellectual. It wasn't funny. And you really think you had a legitimate point?
Not today.

It isn't about the Church, that is the Truth.

And facts is facts and History is History.

And the truth is The Truth!

And foul libels is foul libels.

And false and malicious and bigoted predetermination is false and malicious predetermination.

And having to hand and promulgating and publishing the appearance of "evidence' in support of an evil predetermination is fundamental dishonesty.

And the fundamentally-dishonestly-supported foul libel that I struck out against and stand against until I am without the breath and/or the strength to do so longer; that there was an institutionalized "Christian Church [The Catholic Church and the Lutheran were mentioned] participation in" the pagan-heathen false-fuerher-Mohammed-emulating totalitarian-socialist Hitler's slaughter of at least seven million Christians and six million Jewish People -- and some others, gypsies, sexual deviants etceteras; [And/or that the people ordering and/or doing the slaughtering met any reasonable definition of what is "a Christian"] is and will remain a fundamentally-dishonestly-supported foul libel!

And you and I will disagree about that.

Cordially -- Brian

I said they were not true Christians, but you had a problem with that. You said I was judging them "not worthy". I would be happy to find out that there was no institutionalized collusion on the part of some Lutheran and Catholic churches, or other churches, especially in Germany and Croatia. I would be happy to find out that the anti-semitic statements by church "fathers" and founders are just anti-Christian propaganda written by some enemy of the faith. But if not, nothing is gained by suppressing the information. The Bible does NOT teach that the end justifies the means. If you have some information that will back up your claims, I would suggest that posting the information would do more for your cause than the personal attacks.

I said they were not true Christians .....

That's good, then. Always a pleasure to find common ground.

..... but you had a problem with that.
On the contrary, I am delighted that we have discovered something to agree about.

I would be happy to find out that there was no institutionalized collusion on the part of some Lutheran and Catholic churches, or other churches, especially in Germany and Croatia.
Just as I would that the mass terrorization of whole populations was not occurring at the time; that Total War was not being waged; that the pagan-heathen NAZI's propaganda machine and its ceaseless spewing of lies deceits and mis- and dis-information was not being so effective; that ceaseless revisionism has not occurred ever since 1945 and continues apace -- and there was any way of knowing who said what and to whom and if words and statements ascribed to anyone and/or to any institution were ever uttered by the individual and/or by anyone connected to the institution -- and/or under what circumstances.

A clue as to whether or not the Catholic Church was institutionally involved might be gained from the fact that after the war, the Chief Rabbi of Rome -- in part as the expression of his immense gratitude to the Pope and to the Church for the massive efforts both had made to rescue and/or to save "hundreds of thousands of Jewish People" [At the cost of the lives of more than three million Catholics] -- converted to the Catholic Faith.

That monstrously bloody-evil Europeans were engaged with Hitler in his mass-murders and other Evil is not in dispute. To call any of them "Christian" is to redefine Christianity.

..... I ... suggest ..... would do more for your cause .....
I don't have a "cause" here; a dog in this fight -- or a stake in either the Catholic or Lutheran Churches.

My participation in this thread was first to point out that Fallaci ruined an otherwise very fine essay with her visciously-anti-Catholic libel and then to take on the fact that you were so ready to post the appearance of "evidence" in support of the original libel -- and of your own subsequent libels.

But; back to openers; I am glad that we have found a little common ground. Shalom.

FReegards

Brian

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