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Another poster recently told me that social conservatives were losing the war against deviancies such as homosexuality. I do hope she likes the look of the brave new world she is trying to help build!
1 posted on 04/16/2002 12:29:02 PM PDT by FormerLib
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2 posted on 04/16/2002 12:33:23 PM PDT by FormerLib
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3 posted on 04/16/2002 12:34:29 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: FormerLib
Intellectually respectable pedophilia? What's next?
Sensitivity classes?
4 posted on 04/16/2002 12:34:29 PM PDT by eastsider
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To: FormerLib
What is considered a "child" in this article? Is it teenagers or are they talking about pre-teens?
5 posted on 04/16/2002 12:36:23 PM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: FormerLib
The real danger, she thinks, is not the pedophile but parents and parental figures who project their fears and their own lust for young flesh onto the mythically dangerous child molester.

Ooohhh, now it all makes sense! My being personally offended at the thought of my children being attacked by a pervert, well, that’s just evidence that I’m a pervert! My, to think how many times I’ve embarrassed myself by being opposed to practices like this!

Well, thank you Ms. Levine, I haven’t felt this enlightened since I realized that the reason that I thought homosexuality was an abomination in The Lord’s Eyes, was because I was a homosexual.

Now, if I can just get over this thing I have with an anger towards muslim terrorists… Well, time to start kneeling, anyone know which direction Mecca is in?

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

6 posted on 04/16/2002 12:39:03 PM PDT by End Times Sentinel
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To: FormerLib
Conservatives are losing because they are too afraid to take the steps that are necessary to win.

"All great things must first wear terryifying and monstous masks in order to inscribe themselves on the hearts of humanity."

So must the Conservatives among us who are so willing to take up that charge- that charge to call for a revolution, to turn over the dead and decaying surface of societal fabric, to unearth that which lies beneath, the lost and forgotten, the old, the wise.

Almost none of us have the stomach for such things. Those that do are vilified as murderers and monsters.
7 posted on 04/16/2002 12:46:59 PM PDT by Exnihilo
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To: FormerLib
What amazes me is the people who make these statements are never around after the fact. They don't want to stick around for the devastation, trauma, and destroyed lives this kind of behavior results in. I've taken care of kids with this kind of background. I've never seen one positive outcome. This is nothing more than a sex offender's dream.
10 posted on 04/16/2002 12:56:36 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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Beware of Intellectuals Defending Pedophiles (see reply #19)

"Pedophilia Chic" Reconsidered - The taboo against sex with children continues to erode

"...For elsewhere in the public square, the defense of adult-child sex—more accurately, man-boy sex—is now out in the open. Moreover, it is on parade in a number of places—therapeutic, literary, and academic circles; mainstream publishing houses and journals and magazines and bookstores—where the mere appearance of such ideas would until recently have been not only unthinkable, but in many cases, subject to prosecution...

...Plainly, as the record even then showed, a surprising number of voices were willing to rise up on behalf of what advocates refer to as "man-boy love," or what most people call sexual abuse..."

For one thing, no sustained public challenges have arisen over other primal taboos. Even more telling, if nihilism and nihilism alone were the explanation for public attempts to legitimize sex with boy children, then we would expect the appearance of related attempts to legitimize sex with girl children; and these we manifestly do not see. Nobody, but nobody, has been allowed to make the case for girl pedophilia with the backing of any reputable institution. Publishing houses are not putting out acclaimed anthologies and works of fiction that include excerpts of men having sex with young girls. Psychologists and psychiatrists are not competing with each other to publish studies demonstrating that the sexual abuse of girls is inconsequential; or, indeed, that it ought not even be defined as "abuse."


11 posted on 04/16/2002 12:57:45 PM PDT by EdReform
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I would submit that any nation that would allow an organization like NAMBLA to exist, is a nation in serious decline. I not only believe that efforts to desensitize people to pedophilia are taking place, but that beastiality will be ushered in right behind. I've even seen this taboo used as a punchline in a move, "The Animal".
12 posted on 04/16/2002 12:59:56 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: FormerLib
It was probably going mainstream in Sodom and Gomorrah right before the end.
13 posted on 04/16/2002 1:02:09 PM PDT by Delbert
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I think psychiatry and psychology are a few of the fields where weirdos go to encourage their own illnesses by trying to prove to the world that they are normal. JUstify, justify, justify, anything to come to the ends that meet one's own agenda.
18 posted on 04/16/2002 1:10:16 PM PDT by tiki
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To: FormerLib
Pedophilia is the next big step in mankind's fight against those pesky morals and ethics that have been oppressing us for so darned long. I'm pretty sure hollywood will lead us down the path to enlightenment just has that have in helping get rid of those other taboos. We are probably just a couple of years away from shows like: Daddy's girl, or Father Friendly's Alter Boys. Oh Well I guess it makes some people feel a little better if everyone's doing it. Sad very very sad.
19 posted on 04/16/2002 1:10:41 PM PDT by KSCITYBOY
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To: FormerLib
Intellectually respectable pedophilia? What's next?

Bestiality. It's already being pooh-poohed as "no big thing" by ivory tower gadflys such as Peter Singer of Princeton University.

Acceptance of pedophilia and bestiality is the natural and predictable further consequence of society's acceptance of the homosexual behavior and lifestyle.

24 posted on 04/16/2002 1:27:06 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: FormerLib
Speechless. Well almost! This is not a brave new world it is an old cowardly one who would stand by and allow the promotion of deviant practices.
26 posted on 04/16/2002 1:32:32 PM PDT by Khepera
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I don't believe this kind of loony-tunes position would hold up for long if the parents of this country were properly informed about it and knew what some of the 'intellectuals' are now defending.

What's that old saying? "There are some ideas that are so stupid, only an intellectual can believe 'em!"

29 posted on 04/16/2002 2:24:59 PM PDT by FormerLib
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Do I have to say how bleeping sick this is? But I saw this coming years ago, as far back as 1993, when NAMBLA members surfaced at a homosexual "rights" rally in Washington DC in April of that year.

Make no mistake: The ONLY reason the idea of pedophilia has advanced and will continue to advance is because moral boundaries have become a thing of the past.

Most people will tell you, "There is no such thing as absolute right and wrong anymore. That you see things in black and white means there is something wrong with YOU and you need to readjust your way of thinking."

That is why we, as a country, have to deal with such absurdities as political correctness, slavery reparations, homophobia and sexual harassment in public schools.

There are people who seek only to destroy instead of build. They have gone after everything we hold sacred, everything we hold dear. And now, they are coming after our children.

If we, as a nation, stand by and allow this to occur; if we let our children be defiled and violated both physically and emotionally by these sick, perverse monsters, then we might as well turn out the lights, because the party is going to be over.

30 posted on 04/16/2002 2:56:46 PM PDT by Houmatt
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To: FormerLib
You know, since homosexuality has been in the "mainstreaming" process for the past 10 to 15 years, it would seem logical that pedophilia would be next in line.

The continued existence of a group like NAMBLA somewhat answers this question. I simply find it hard to believe that such a group can be out in the open and survive.

39 posted on 04/16/2002 3:37:53 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: FormerLib
The entire press corp and news media is reporting this outbreak in the Catholic Church as a "SEX SCANDAL". Somehow giving it the same polishing as BJ Clinton's sexcapades in the Oval Office. This might not sound like a big deal but change is slow and the hearts and minds must come along for the ride. How better than through the constant bombardment of the TAGS that the liberal media put on events. You have "suicide bomber" legitimizing the taking of innocents non combatants now you have "sex scandal" to describe pedophilia. Sick!
53 posted on 04/17/2002 6:41:14 AM PDT by PISANO
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Come on we all knew this was coming no that homosexual hoopla is socially exceptable with mainstream society.
56 posted on 04/17/2002 10:06:12 AM PDT by oceanperch
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Is pedophilia going mainstream? I have a real hard time believing that society will ever tolerate sex between adults and children who haven't reached sexual maturity, let alone accepted it as normal or celebrate it. Even a scourge-of-FR, Liberaltarian weeder like me would never stand for something like that, and I'm sure I'm not alone within my ranks.

But what we have her on this thread is a bunch of different things being lumped together and mis-understood.

Pedophilia < > ephebophilia < > bestiality < > incest < > pederasty < > homosexuality.

Lumping them together and branding them equally evil does nothing for us.

58 posted on 04/17/2002 10:28:35 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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