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Is pedophilia going mainstream?
Jewish World Review ^ | April 16, 2002 | John Leo

Posted on 04/16/2002 12:29:02 PM PDT by FormerLib

Back in 1981, an astute writer at Time magazine (that would be me) noticed that pro-pedophilia arguments were catching on among some sex researchers and counselors. Larry Constantine, a Massachusetts family therapist and sex-book writer, said children "have the right to express themselves sexually, which means that they may or may not have contact with people older than themselves." Wardell Pomeroy, coauthor of the original Kinsey reports, said incest "can sometimes be beneficial." A Minnesota sociologist included pedophile sex among "intimate human relations [that] are important and precious." There were more.

My article caused some commotion, so budding apologists for child molesters' lib ran for cover. Since then, frank endorsements of adult-child sex have become rare. But pro-pedophilia (or anti-antipedophilia) rationalizations of the early '80s are still in play. Among them: Children are sexual beings with the right to pick their partners; the quality of relationships, not age, determines the value of sex; most pedophiles are gentle and harmless; the damage of pedophilia comes mostly from the shocked horror communicated by parents, not from the sex itself.

For example, take the controversy over the new sex book Harmful to Minors: the Perils of Protecting Children from Sex . The mini-uproar comes from the fact that the author, a journalist named Judith Levine, recycles some of the old arguments that play down the dangers of pedophilia. (The book has a foreword by former Surgeon General Joycelyn Elders, so don't say you weren't warned.) Levine says pedophiles are rare and often harmless. The real danger, she thinks, is not the pedophile but parents and parental figures who project their fears and their own lust for young flesh onto the mythically dangerous child molester. One section carries the headline "The enemy is us."

Priestly lapse. Levine opposes incest and adult-child sex that involves authorities with power over kids. That would seem to include predatory priests, but Levine thought this was a good time to endorse some priest-boy sex. She told Mark O'Keefe of the Newhouse papers that "yes, conceivably, absolutely" a boy's sexual relationship with a priest could be positive.

Harmful to Minors is a classic example of how disorder in the intellectual world leaks into the popular culture. In this case, I think the leakage comes from the Rind study, which caused a national furor after it appeared in 1998 in the Psychological Bulletin, a publication of the American Psychological Association. The study's conclusion that child sex abuse "does not cause intense harm on a pervasive basis" was the highest-level endorsement yet of the no-harm rationalization for child sexual abuse. Understandably, the Rind study is the new bible of pedophiles and their groups.

The study also called for a sweeping change in language used to discuss child sexual abuse (a term the study rejected as judgmental). This delighted the pedophile movement, which favors terms like "intergenerational intimacy." One critic of Rind mockingly asked whether the word rape should now be changed to "unilaterally consenting adult-adult sex."

The Rind study was a meta-analysis, an academic term for noodling around with other people's old studies instead of conducting your own. Meta-analyses notoriously leave lots of room for omissions and arbitrary decisions to somehow fit together different studies with different standards and definitions.

The major point about the Rind study is not whether it was intellectually shoddy (though I think it was) but that it shifted the national discussion several degrees toward the normalization of pedophilia. It will take a great deal more to convince the American people that tots have the right to select adult sex partners. But the terrain has been changed. Instead of virtually all Americans versus the pedophiles, the Rind team (who grandly compare their case to the travails of Galileo) invited us to see it as scientific and fair-minded people who believe in openness and dialogue versus meddling, antiscientific, right-wing moralists. It invites the left and the center to view antipedophilia traditionalists as the real problem, just as Levine says "the enemy is us," not pedophiles.

Here's an example of the terrain change. For more than 20 years, pedophile advocate Tom O'Carroll has been a stigmatized outsider. Now he has been invited to address an international sex convention in Paris on the subject of privacy rights of pedophiles and their child partners (or targets). His pro-pedophilia book is on a course list at Cambridge University. O'Carroll is surprised and delighted by his new stature and thinks the Rind study brought it about. Intellectually respectable pedophilia? What's next?


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KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; homosexuality; pedophilia
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To: Wright is right!;Tai_Chung
"What is considered a "child" in this article? Is it teenagers or are they talking about pre-teens?"

The so-called "journalistic community" has a tough time differentiating pedophilia (attraction to pre-pubescent kids) from the attraction to sexually-developed but legislatively-underaged adolescents. To lump them all together is erroneous.

Erroneous or not, you'll note that we've now entered the definition game, which is bad news. Notice that between you, we've got two examples here: age-based and body-based definitions of what constitutes "pedophilia". (There's also the unnamed third option, "individual maturity.")

The only reason for doing that is to differentiate between "all right" and "not all right," and ultimately to lower the acceptable age limit for sexual relations.

Is pedophilia going mainstream? The bottom line answer is "yes."

21 posted on 04/16/2002 1:16:09 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: Wright is right!
Why is it important to know all the proper terminology for each of the crimes against children or early teens?

I think that dividing the different terms in public discussion benefits more the criminals that want their behavior accepted. I am sure some forms of this depravity may have more public appeal than others. Just divide and normalize each, one at a time, seems to be SOP.

23 posted on 04/16/2002 1:20:28 PM PDT by scottiewottie
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To: FormerLib
Intellectually respectable pedophilia? What's next?

Bestiality. It's already being pooh-poohed as "no big thing" by ivory tower gadflys such as Peter Singer of Princeton University.

Acceptance of pedophilia and bestiality is the natural and predictable further consequence of society's acceptance of the homosexual behavior and lifestyle.

24 posted on 04/16/2002 1:27:06 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: Kevin Curry
My granddaddy told me, don't wrestle with the pigs. You'll just get dirty and the pigs like it.
25 posted on 04/16/2002 1:28:44 PM PDT by breakem
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To: FormerLib
Speechless. Well almost! This is not a brave new world it is an old cowardly one who would stand by and allow the promotion of deviant practices.
26 posted on 04/16/2002 1:32:32 PM PDT by Khepera
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To: KSCITYBOY; DoughtyOne; Delbert; EdReform; goldenstategirl; Exnihilo; Owl_Eagle; Emmylou
Well folks, Emmylou has informed me that we've lost the culture war so we'd just better accept it when homosexualists begin to lower the age of consent as part of their new morality. As she posted in a related thread:
You are entitled to your moral beliefs. But face it, your side has lost this one. You have a Republican president who proclaims himself a born-again Christian and even he has stated publicly that he will not discriminate based on sexual orientation.

Oh well, you put up a good fight. And I'm sure you'll stick around for the skirmishes and mopping up in this particular chapter of the culture wars. But in the end, this is the good old U.S.A., the place where pursuit of happiness is guaranteed in the Constitution. Some Americans find happiness loving someone of the same sex. You can tell them not to be happy all you want but very few are going to listen.

Cheers.


27 posted on 04/16/2002 1:34:27 PM PDT by FormerLib
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To: JimScott
I don't believe this kind of loony-tunes position would hold up for long if the parents of this country were properly informed about it and knew what some of the 'intellectuals' are now defending.

What's that old saying? "There are some ideas that are so stupid, only an intellectual can believe 'em!"

29 posted on 04/16/2002 2:24:59 PM PDT by FormerLib
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To: FormerLib
Do I have to say how bleeping sick this is? But I saw this coming years ago, as far back as 1993, when NAMBLA members surfaced at a homosexual "rights" rally in Washington DC in April of that year.

Make no mistake: The ONLY reason the idea of pedophilia has advanced and will continue to advance is because moral boundaries have become a thing of the past.

Most people will tell you, "There is no such thing as absolute right and wrong anymore. That you see things in black and white means there is something wrong with YOU and you need to readjust your way of thinking."

That is why we, as a country, have to deal with such absurdities as political correctness, slavery reparations, homophobia and sexual harassment in public schools.

There are people who seek only to destroy instead of build. They have gone after everything we hold sacred, everything we hold dear. And now, they are coming after our children.

If we, as a nation, stand by and allow this to occur; if we let our children be defiled and violated both physically and emotionally by these sick, perverse monsters, then we might as well turn out the lights, because the party is going to be over.

30 posted on 04/16/2002 2:56:46 PM PDT by Houmatt
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To: Exnihilo
Conservatives are losing because they are too afraid to take the steps that are necessary to win.

Conservative appear to be losing because it isn't bad enough just yet to start shooting the bad guys.

Back in the late 1700's all it took was some taxes. I wonder how far it will go this time? *shudder*

33 posted on 04/16/2002 3:11:45 PM PDT by Caipirabob
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To: Kevin Curry; FormerLib
It’s all about the four legs of the table. Get out your sleds, we're on our way down.
35 posted on 04/16/2002 3:23:13 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Emmylou
See post #35 and ask yourself, which side are you on?

Like our president said, your're either with us or your against us.

The culture war that we are fighting is an ugly one. Don't expect our enemy to respect your borders.

37 posted on 04/16/2002 3:35:12 PM PDT by FormerLib
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To: Tai_Chung
What is considered a "child" in this article? Is it teenagers or are they talking about pre-teens?

Well the slogan of NAMBLA is "After 8 is too late" (That would be 8 years old) This country, indeed world, is going to hell in a handcart.
38 posted on 04/16/2002 3:37:47 PM PDT by GussiedUp
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To: FormerLib
You know, since homosexuality has been in the "mainstreaming" process for the past 10 to 15 years, it would seem logical that pedophilia would be next in line.

The continued existence of a group like NAMBLA somewhat answers this question. I simply find it hard to believe that such a group can be out in the open and survive.

39 posted on 04/16/2002 3:37:53 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: Wright is right!
Whenever arbitririness [sic] enters into the picture, lines of behavior get blurred and linguistic precision goes out the window.

That's a very good point, and its implications don't just stop on this subject.

40 posted on 04/16/2002 3:40:38 PM PDT by rdb3
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