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CRUSHING ILLINOIS GUN CONTROL
Apr 15, 2002 | Lazamataz

Posted on 04/15/2002 8:15:56 PM PDT by Lazamataz

Des Plaines (LAZ) -- By a 7 to 1 vote, Des Plaines City Council rejected two sweeping pieces of gun control legislation introduced by Alderman Don Smith and heavily and vocally backed by Richard Daley, the Mayor of Chicago.

Des Plaines is twenty miles from Chicago, and is considered a suburb of the city.

Smith introduced both a set of gun dealer restrictions, and a comprehensive assault weapons ban.

The gun dealer restrictions would have forced gun dealers to pay 55$ to the city, undergo fingerprints, be subjected to a criminal background check, and would have prevented gun dealers from operating in a quarter-mile radius of dozens of types of establishments, virtually preventing any gun and ammunition sales in Des Plaines.

The second ordinance would have banned sales and possession of so-called assault weapons, which were defined by name and by features. There was no provision for grandfathering of existing firerams.

The turnout by those opposed to these measures was so large that both the city council meeting and the overflow room were too full for the Des Plaines firefighters requirements, so the remaining individuals needed to watch television monitors set up in the hallways and lobby. The crowd was overwhelmingly opposed to the measure, and occasionally needed to be quieted by the mayor.

After the resolutions were introduced, each of the Aldermen from each of the other seven wards took turns harshly criticizing the legislation.

One Alderman, Dick Sayad (Ward 4), took personal umberage at the legislation, noting that he is a proud owner of three firearms and that his wife is trained and willing to defend herself when he is away. He also pointed out that the way the legislation was written, that no firearms sales could occur within a quarter mile radius of the son or daughter of any veteran, completely eliminating all firearms sales in the city limits.

Another Alderman, Carla Brookman (Ward 5) remarked that she had a flood of emails and calls, "more than I have on any issue ever", and that not one call or email was in favor of the legislation.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: assaultweapons; banglist; desplaines; guncontrol; richarddaily
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To: Lazamataz
Wow, sounds like you guys kicked some major *ss today. Good work!
81 posted on 04/15/2002 9:46:41 PM PDT by Musket
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To: Navy Patriot
and a gun is loaded if there are "any cartrige cases in the immediate vicinity" (note that they needn't be live, loaded, assembled, or the correct caliber to fit the firearm, and the firearm need not be assembled.

This is total insanity.

Ergo, it makes total sense in the backwards communist state of Kalifornistan.

82 posted on 04/15/2002 9:47:28 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz
Wow, what great news! There are a few towns here in Jersey that have banned gun-related businesses (which should really be challenged in court), and one of them was attempting to institute a similar establishment of "gun-free zones" around municipal buildings and properties, which would have in effect banned guns in the entire town. They weren't successful either.

Good job by you on your reporting, and kudos to everyone who took the time to make a call, send an email, or attend the meeting.

See, folks? We CAN make a difference, all we have to do is speak up!

83 posted on 04/15/2002 9:49:57 PM PDT by dbwz
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To: Musket
Wow, sounds like you guys kicked some major *ss today. Good work!

The thanks cannot go to me; they must go to my fellow freepers and all the hundreds of non-freep gunowners.

What an energized gunowning community Illinois has! Way more energized than I am used to in New York!

84 posted on 04/15/2002 9:53:35 PM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Navy Patriot
Rule by exception; I you are on our side, there is no offense.

Otherwise, possesion of a potato, a pipe, and a bic lighter is a felony.

This is the first characteristic of a totalitarian government - the second is Auschwitz.

85 posted on 04/15/2002 9:55:45 PM PDT by patton
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To: Lazamataz
What an energized gunowning community Illinois has

Let's use that energy to get rid of Durbin. Sounds good? (I'll try and do the same with his twin brother Carl Lenin)

86 posted on 04/15/2002 10:00:47 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace;Lazamataz
Here's an easy way to contact them, you can e-mail them individually here:

Patricia K. Beauvais - no e-mail link
Thomas J. Christiansen
Laura M. Murphy
Dick Sayad
Carla Brookman
Tom Becker
Rosemary S. Argus

Don Smith

Or e-mail all except Patricia K. Beauvais but including Don Smith... Here

87 posted on 04/15/2002 10:11:57 PM PDT by in the Arena
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To: Lazamataz
This is total insanity.

Ergo, it makes total sense in the backwards communist state of Kalifornistan.

Yup, and state legislators have applied this technique to other areas here. We have the worst roads, nearly the worst schools, the worst electrical supply infrastructure, ect. because of these legal shenanigans, and it never stops. The citizens just passed another innitative dedicating the road tax (gasoline tax) back to the roads. This is the third time. Each time previously the legislature redefined the law and maneuvered the money into the general fund. Instead of repairing and building hiways, the money went to political patronage, thus the potholes.

88 posted on 04/15/2002 10:13:31 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: patton
This is the first characteristic of a totalitarian government - the second is Auschwitz.

Agreed, I hope we can stop this and turn it around before said second characteristic. Des Plaines is good news, it can be done.

89 posted on 04/15/2002 10:21:09 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace;Lazamataz
Dang, Don Smith's listed on the contact page bounced...
90 posted on 04/15/2002 10:23:34 PM PDT by in the Arena
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To: in the Arena
Yeah, Smith disengaged his AOL e-dress after it had been apparently FReeped (ahem...... :-).
91 posted on 04/15/2002 10:27:22 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Lazamataz
Multiple gun owning KUDOS!! You made my day.
92 posted on 04/15/2002 10:37:33 PM PDT by conserve-it
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To: Lazamataz
Good job!
93 posted on 04/15/2002 10:48:56 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: patton
Hey, don't forget, Crossfire's ratings are in the toilet, too!
94 posted on 04/15/2002 10:56:25 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: Lazamataz
He also pointed out that the way the legislation was written, that no firearms sales could occur within a quarter mile radius of the son or daughter of any veteran

Personally I think they should have said "sales near any of those little white and yellow dashed lines down the middle of the road would have been a better idea :o)"......................USA is up to it's hips in dumb@ssed presstitutes and polidiots Laz . Thanks for your efforts !

Stay Safe !

95 posted on 04/15/2002 11:27:48 PM PDT by Squantos
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To: Lazamataz
I used to believe that too, until I met all the hundreds of protesters. I have never seen such a coordinated and energetic group. And this is in the most liberal area of the state!

Well, I would say the most liberal areas of the state are Chicago proper (err, improper) and Urpaign/Chambana.

The political table tilts rightward proportional to your distance west of the city. Actually, in almost any direction with the possible exception of north. And maybe east, where a lot of the Demovoters reside. (I didn't say "live!")

From a Chicago/Suburban/Illini, in a previous life. <)B^)

96 posted on 04/15/2002 11:51:44 PM PDT by Erasmus
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To: Erasmus
DuPage is starting to have some libs trickle in though. And the way Daley wants to build higher-class housing in the city, more and more of the suburbs will be essentially just like the city. Well, then again, it already is.
97 posted on 04/15/2002 11:54:16 PM PDT by SpyderTim
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To: Lazamataz
"Daley has stated he wants a 100 mile gun-free zone around Chicago."

No, no, no. Daley isn't going to give up his armed bodyguards, police, swat teams, federal agents, security agents, et al. What Daley wants is 100 mile zone around Chicago in which the non-privileged class is prohibited from having the same rights as the government class.

But if Daley wants to give up his armed bodyguards to prove me wrong, call me. It's something that I'd have to see to believe.

98 posted on 04/15/2002 11:56:25 PM PDT by Southack
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To: Lazamataz
As an ex-Illini who moved across the river to Kentucky (before I followed jobs to NC) so I could get a CCW, I hope you people can get some of the heinous Illinois laws overturned. The Firearm Owners ID card is especially ugly.

Your best bet for getting grassroots power to change the laws in Illinois will be downstate, I think. Once you get south of Urbana/Normal the state is heavily conservative, except for Carbondale. Even Paul Simon hardly ever got any votes downstate, even in Makanda. His power base was Carbondale liberal professors at SIU and the Daley machine in Chicago.

Many of the downstaters are waiting for the Republican party to run a real Republican candidate instead of the RINOs that have been running for the last 30 years.

I know that my grandparents have been holding their noses to vote Republican for a long time now.

Knitebane

99 posted on 04/16/2002 2:41:38 AM PDT by Knitebane
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To: bang_list


100 posted on 04/16/2002 5:05:36 AM PDT by Joe Brower
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