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To: zoyd
Ya, really looks like a mosquito infested swamp
55 posted on 04/10/2002 4:15:25 PM PDT by KnowYourEnemy
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To: KnowYourEnemy
This is your proof? A narrow perfectly composed photo for aesthetic purposes? I think you're going to regret posting that.
58 posted on 04/10/2002 4:22:55 PM PDT by A Navy Vet
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To: KnowYourEnemy
It does. You just need to adjust the pixel resolution on your Commodore 64.
60 posted on 04/10/2002 4:26:25 PM PDT by SGCOS
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To: KnowYourEnemy
What the oil industry is asking for is access to 2,000 acres, an area no bigger than Dulles Airport. "This footprint would be 50 times smaller than the Montana ranch owned by Ted Turner, who helps bankroll efforts to keep ANWR off-limits."

Sounds to me like you ought to be bitching at Ted Turner. He's controlling much more land than at issue in ANWR.

BTW, have you ever been to ANWR? Or Alaska at all? I'm curious, because Alaska is a BIG PLACE. Your worries about drilling are obviously bounded by your own environmental concerns, NOT taxpayer expense, 6 months' supply, 10 years to build, yada yada yada. Come clean, and just admit you hate oilmen, and hate oil.

You probably hate it so much, you probably only drive 20 miles a day.

62 posted on 04/10/2002 4:28:47 PM PDT by zoyd
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To: KnowYourEnemy
Man you are propoganda infested! Even the picture that you posted is from an environmental whacko site!

http://www.protect-the-arctic.com/images/pic-home.jpg

You are pitiful if you think these people are presenting a picture of where the oil is. (Hint: it is nowhere the mountains.)

63 posted on 04/10/2002 4:31:08 PM PDT by rohry
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To: KnowYourEnemy
BTW, how many acres does that photo represent? Any idea?

I could show you a picture of Florida that has sandy beaches and palm trees, but it doesn't obfuscate the reality that there are swamps in Florida.

64 posted on 04/10/2002 4:31:34 PM PDT by zoyd
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To: KnowYourEnemy; Stand Watch Listen
Now you are lying. That is a picture of the interior of ANWR. The proposed drilling is on the coastal plain.

Coastal Plain
      spring                                             summer                                       winter

SWL, I stole some pics from your post. I wanted to give you credit.

66 posted on 04/10/2002 4:33:45 PM PDT by TomB
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To: KnowYourEnemy
"In fact, the only spot where it's legal to drill for oil is on what's called the coastal plain of ANWR, the snippet on the northern coast of the Refuge. You rarely see pictures of the coastal plain, because it's not what TV producers call a beauty shot (I know this hyper-technical TV lingo from my years as a producer). So, they show mountains and Disney animals and crystal-clear running water and say, This is the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, where the evil greasy snout-nosed Republicans"
77 posted on 04/10/2002 4:44:30 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777
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To: KnowYourEnemy
Now here is a real picture of the area where drilling will occur:


78 posted on 04/10/2002 4:49:42 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777
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To: KnowYourEnemy
I have been near where that picture was taken, you can see the Haul road just above the caribou antlers. Nice picture just as the road comes out of the Brooks Range, truely beautiful.

There is a small pine tree with a sign on it as you drive down Atigun pass. "This is the last tree..." Now if you just turn around, and get back on the road for another hundred miles, you will get to the coast.

BTW, the mosquitos swarm so much they almost dark the sun at times, depending on how much exposed flesh there is.

80 posted on 04/10/2002 4:51:02 PM PDT by Brad C.
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To: KnowYourEnemy
Um, KYE: I hate to tell you this, but that is NOT a picture of ANYPLACE in ANWR. Somewhere in the Brooks Range, probably. ANWR is flat. Like piss on a plate. Like a table top. Like an old maid's chest. FLAT. If you stand on a chair, you can see the curvature of the earth. Oh. Did I mention that ANWR is FLAT??
90 posted on 04/10/2002 5:13:15 PM PDT by redhead
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To: KnowYourEnemy
Here's the facts, from an Alaskan!

here it is in the summer

here it is in the spring!

this is it in the winter, not much different huh?

this is PERMANENT wilderness

here's how much it scares away the caribou

here's you a couple of maps

Only 8% of ANWR Would Be Considered for Exploration: Only the 1.5 million acre or 8% on the northern coast of ANWR is being considered for development. The remaining 17.5 million acres or 92% of ANWR will remain permanently closed to any kind of development. If oil is discovered, less than 2000 acres of the over 1.5 million acres of the Coastal Plain would be affected.

Jobs To Be Created: Between 250,000 and 735,000 jobs are estimated to be created by development of the Coastal Plain.

Economic Impact: Between 1980 and 1994, North Slope oil field development and production activity contributed over $50 billion to the nations economy, directly impacting each state in the union.

America's Best Chance for a Major Discovery: The Coastal Plain of ANWR is America's best possibility for the discovery of another giant "Prudhoe Bay-sized" oil and gas discovery in North America. U.S. Department of Interior estimates range from 9 to 16 billion barrels of recoverable oil.

. Imported Oil too Costly: The U.S. imports over 55% of the nation's needed petroleum. These oil imports cost more than $55.1 billion a year (this figure does not include the military costs of protecting that imported supply). These figures are rising and could exceed 65% by the year 2005.

. No Negative Impact on Animals: Oil and gas development and wildlife are successfully coexisting in Alaska's arctic. For example, the Central Arctic Caribou Herd (CACH) at Prudhoe Bay has grown from 3,000 to as high as 23,400 during the last 20 years of operation. In 1995, the Central Arctic Caribou Herd size was estimated to be 18,100 animals.

All in all, I think you need to get your priorities straight and your facts.
Sorry I don't know how to make the pictures any bigger.

91 posted on 04/10/2002 5:13:46 PM PDT by knak
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