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Professor's time travel idea fires up the imagination
Boston Globe ^ | 4/5/2002 | David Abel

Posted on 04/06/2002 11:18:28 AM PST by Hellmouth

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:07:39 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Ronald Mallett, a physicist at the University of Connecticut, believes he knows how to build a time machine - an actual device that could send something or someone from the future to the past, or vice versa.

He's not joking.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crevolist; physics; pufflist; timemachine; timetravel
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To: longshadow; scully
I believe that certain quantum events can be analyzed by treating it as though a particle were traveling backward in time, but I don't believe that the particles ACTUALY travel backwards in time.

CPT invariance, which is necessarily respected by quantum field theories, implies that a positron is mathematically equivalent to a negatively charged electron travelling backwards in time. This cannot be exploited to violate causality, however. Electrons have no "hair": they are quantum-mechanically indistinguishable from each other, so there is no way for information to be written onto an electron and shipped somewhere. Information can be encoded only into arrangements of electrons or positrons, and those arrangements (owing to the causal structure of spacetime) move strictly forward in time. Information only goes one way.

You can interpret CPT invariance however you like. I prefer to think of positrons as being time-retarded electrons, because it greatly simplifies the conceptual picture of quantum electrodynamics. If you want to propagate an electron from point A to point B, all you have to do is add up, with an appropriate weighting scheme, all possible paths from A to B, including those paths that go forwards and backwards in time, and you get the correct wavefunction.

81 posted on 04/06/2002 5:23:50 PM PST by Physicist
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To: PatrickHenry
I never figured out an ending.

One morning he wakes up and doesn't, er, evacuate at all. He decides that this is a really bad sign, divests himself of everything, and sells short. Hours later, a coup is announced in China, and the communist system is overthrown for free-market capitalism. The world markets shoot upwards, and he loses everything and more. That night, in an attempt to undo the damage, our hero gobbles as many pimentos as his stomach can hold...so many that he constipates himself.

82 posted on 04/06/2002 5:33:53 PM PST by Physicist
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To: PatrickHenry
Title suggestion: "Pimental Retardation".
83 posted on 04/06/2002 5:40:44 PM PST by Physicist
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To: Physicist
That night, in an attempt to undo the damage, our hero gobbles as many pimentos as his stomach can hold..

Not bad. I had envisioned him installing a bank of phones in the john, so he could call his brokers all over the world as soon as he got his "market signal." And as his diet of pimentos grew steadily more demanding, and his health deteriorated, he had to spend more and more time in the john, waiting with his phones for the "signal," emerging only to acquire and devour ever more pimentos ... and of course he's hopelessly hooked, because when he gets a profitable signal, he has no recourse but to consume more pimentos, because he can't afford NOT to send the signal ... so he's hopelessly trapped in his market manipulations, his pimento binging, and his increasingly erratic "signaling" system ... and that's where I didn't know how to end it. I never thought of your scenario. This (thankfully) unwritten tale is titled: The Man Whose Colon Traveled through Time.

84 posted on 04/06/2002 5:46:31 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
I never figured out an ending.

Hillary Clinton cornered the commodities futures market for pimentos.

85 posted on 04/06/2002 5:50:18 PM PST by longshadow
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To: Hellmouth
If time travel is feasible where are the people from the future? Assuming time travel will develop over the next 100 years.
86 posted on 04/06/2002 5:59:35 PM PST by HENRYADAMS
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To: longshadow
Hillary Clinton cornered the commodities futures market for pimentos.

Y'know, I try to tell a pleasant little story, and you have to go and make it nasty.

87 posted on 04/06/2002 6:00:19 PM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
Y'know, I try to tell a pleasant little story, and you have to go and make it nasty.

hey, you want your story published?

Political intrigue, crime, and deviant sex are mandatory requirements if you want it to ever get published.

Hillary delivers on all accounts.

88 posted on 04/06/2002 6:04:01 PM PST by longshadow
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To: kidd
Great. Just great. The first time traveller is a liberal. He'll come back from the Constitutional Convention and report that the intention of the founding fathers was for government to babysit us all.

BUT but but......... they are already doing that.

89 posted on 04/06/2002 6:19:49 PM PST by Great Dane
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To: GhostofWCooper
But they aren't.

Ever hear og little gray men....... or is that green.

90 posted on 04/06/2002 6:22:43 PM PST by Great Dane
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To: HENRYADAMS
Forget time travel, I just want to send a few electrons back in time - send myself email from the future with stock tips, lotto numbers, etc.
91 posted on 04/06/2002 6:48:14 PM PST by HangThemHigh
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To: PatrickHenry
"The Man Whose Colon Traveled through Time."

Oh, please. You just put a new spin on that old TV series "Time Tunnel", that's all. Only instead of running through a time tunnel, the tunnel runs through them, in a manner of speaking.

Ick. Whit Bissel would not approve.

92 posted on 04/06/2002 6:48:35 PM PST by Billy_bob_bob
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To: Swordmaker
It's not a paradox though, it's a Morbius Loop.
93 posted on 04/06/2002 7:17:17 PM PST by PeaceBeWithYou
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To: Hellmouth
Time and space travel are related. At this very moment you are moving through space-time at approximately 19mps(miles per second), that's the speed that the Sun is dragging us along with it in it's orbit around the center of the Milky Way Galaxy which is moving through the Universe at 35mps.(the jury is still out on if the Universe is also moving thru an even bigger something or not.) Also, remember that the Earth is orbiting the Sun at aproximately 18mps, and is spinning at aproximately .3mps. Vectored speed anyone? I have a need to know...not urgent, but eventual...more on that later.

According to Albert Einstien, if you could exceed the speed of light(186,000mps)then you will experience negative time. Nothing we have observed does this, but he also argued that it wouldn't be detectable to us, because of the our frame of reference. Hence the time/space traveler's need for his own frame of reference, which Al dubbed Special Relativity.

IOW: To return to a previous time, you also must travel to it's previous place. To travel to a future time, you must travel to it's future place, (all at faster than light speed)which is potentially risky if you are without life support. Any error, no matter how small could have very profound consequenses. No thanks, not this guy.

Now if you could send just a message back on a beam to a proir location, say just an hour....say the right six numbers... Now you can see why I need the vectored speed :-) It's also a bit of a paradox as it would take all you could win to build and send said message:-)

P.S. Don't think about all this too hard or you will realize the reason that you are always tired, will argue that you were going much faster, when that policeman gives you a ticket for going 70 in a 55, and you will make those that invest in headace remedies richer than they already are.

94 posted on 04/06/2002 8:39:36 PM PST by PeaceBeWithYou
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To: Mr. Thorne
Doh! That was supposed to be 2000!
95 posted on 04/06/2002 9:36:37 PM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: Hellmouth
I'm not sure how fast the earth spins, or how fast the earth circles the sun, or how fast the sun and its planets move within the Milky Way, or how fast the Milky Way travels within the universe, but I betcha if you went "back in time" one-tenth of a second you would find your eyeballs being sucked out in the cold, cold vacuum of outer space.

By the way, I highly recommend the short story, 'The Billiard Ball' by Isaac Asimov to anybody out there who enjoys short stories. If I recall, it is included in Asimov's I, Robot.

96 posted on 04/06/2002 9:44:27 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
When we look at a star, we are actually "seeing" that star as it was (and where it was) many years ago. I always thought that if there was a distant planet of a distant star (say 10,000 light-years away), and this planet had a highly reflective surface, and we had a really super telescope, we could see the reflection of the earth as it was 20,000 years ago.
97 posted on 04/06/2002 9:52:29 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Harrison Bergeron
Heh heh heh...

typo man strikes again!

98 posted on 04/07/2002 4:42:15 AM PDT by Mr. Thorne
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To: Archaeus
Another tangeant/secant issue is of parallel universes/worlds. If one sent a time traveler forward in time, and he observed the futureworld and then returned, what proof would be required to show that perhaps he hadn't travelled to a timeline within a known universe at all,..but instead had swapped with a parallel universe elsewhere?

Likewise for reverse time travel. Clues might not exist in the present for such travel.

Now the age-old/new argument will evolve....When chad hunters from the DNC traveled back in time to the 2000 Presidential Elections to change the Florida outcome, did they succeed in a parallel universe? Or did the conservative physicists succeed in reversing their actions to wit nobody knows the better?

99 posted on 04/07/2002 5:07:48 AM PDT by Cvengr
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To: Physicist
I prefer to think of positrons as being time-retarded electrons

Thank you, this clarifies the issue for me.

100 posted on 04/07/2002 6:58:59 AM PDT by Scully
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