FREEPER EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: David Schippers Says "Clinton Is Delusional"

DFU interview with David Schippers ^ | 4-02-02 | Doug from Upland

[doug from upland]

This morning I had the great pleasure to have another conversation with David Schippers, one of the few former Democrats who has been able to see the truth about what happened to his former party and the damage Bill Clinton has done to this nation.

It began yesterday with a phone call to Schippers' office to see if he would comment on the Jonathon Alter kneepad interview with Clinton.

Schippers returned my call this morning and told me that he did not see the interview in NEWSWEEK because he would not buy that &^%$#*&^%$. I complied with his request to fax it to him.

Well, the impeachment prosecutor needed his medication because his blood pressure almost went through the roof after reading the interview.

"What!" yelled Schippers. "The worst thing that happened to him was that his dog died?"

"Not that our country was attacked? Not that the buildings were knocked down? Not that terrorists are running loose in our country? Not that there were dead bodies laying all over the streets of New York City?"

Schippers was really incensed over Clinton continuing to blame his problems on the supposed conspiracy of the right wing. "This can't be for real. This man is delusional," he said. "This SOB will never be remorseful and still refuses to admit what he did."

Despite Clinton's claim that the Justice Department did not object to a pardon for Marc Rich, Schippers says that such nonsense contradicts the facts. Many decent people within the Justice Department really wanted to nail Rich, not pardon him. "That Justice was no longer interested in Rich," said Schippers, "was pure B.S." Rudy Giuliani was absolutely screaming about Rich.

Clinton's psychological problem was evident when he talked about September 11 in terms of the "politics of personal destruction." According to Schippers, "Clinton believes that the whole world revolves around the feelings of William Jefferson Clinton."

We talked about politics in general and the Democratic Party in particular. He was sad to admit that the party he supported during most of his lifetime cares about one thing only --- retaining power. Their issues involve scaring people. That's all they can do. Scare people. Schippers talked about a 1998 recording of Hillary Clinton in which she tried to get out the vote by telling her minions that she had inside information about the Republicans plan to "close down all of welfare."

There is a difference in the parties that is paramount. The Democrats have no sense of shame. Schippers commented on the role of the media in the shameless activities of the Democrats. "The media is the bad guy," he said.

Regarding the illegal activities in pushing alien criminals to become citizens in 1996, Schippers really wanted to go after that case. They were ready to take the next step and was told that he had the support of the FBI. He believed that U.S. Attorneys were going to file criminal charges against those involved. But it was all suddenly shut down.

We talked about the comparison of 1930's Germany and 1990's United States of America. I told him how I had a discussion with Jerome Zeifmann (although neither of us remembered his name during our conversation -- sorry Mr. Zeifmann) in which I explained that it was before my time and I really never understood how a nation could have come to believe and accept that black was white and wrong was right. I didn't understand, that is, until I lived through the 1990s. Just as did Zeifmann, Schippers agreed with the comparison.

On the Borking of Judge Pickering, Schippers was very unhappy with President Bush for not using his bullypulpit. "Pickering is a decent man," said Schippers. "He was unanimously confirmed last time. The local NAACP supported him. Bush should have been out there in front for him long before the committee fiasco."

FReepers in Illinois, Schippers is going to actively campaign for Republican Jim Durkin in his battle for the Senate seat currently held by Dick Durbin. He hopes you will get out and support Durkin. As a Catholic, he is disappointed and angry with Durbin's position, as a Catholic, to support partial birth abortion.

On Jesse Jackson, Schippers thinks the shakedown artist is in real trouble. He noted how Jackson had done well in a few primaries when he ran for president, but he was "whomped" back at home in Chicago. According the the late journalist, Mike Royko, the reason Jesse had such trouble in his home state was because "We know him."

Schippers has agreed to be my guest for the next DFU Radio Hour on Radio FreeRepublic. I hope you will have some good questions I can relay to him.

[doug from upland]

I LOOKED AT MY NOTES AGAIN AND THIS WAS LEFT OUT:

David really wishes that Robert Ray would have done his finally report after he saw this disgusting interview.

[doug from upland]

You have FReepmail.

David loves THE BALLAD OF MIKE MORAN! And he loves the idea of the artwork becoming a statue in front of a building in New York. Now, can we raise the money for it?

[GOPJ]

Ditto: Excellent job

[doug from upland]

If anyone did not know, Schippers twice had voted for Bill Clinton. He told me in a previous conversation, that when Henry Hyde called, he expected to be involved for just a few weeks. The amount of criminality he discovered astounded him.

When RATS try to blame the right wing, remind the nitwits of Schippers' credentials -- lifelong loyal Democrat, voted twice for Clinton. If anyone is in a position to know about criminality, it is Schippers. He saw the evidence, some of which won't be seen for another 48 years because it is locked away in the Ford Building. I say --- FREE THE FORD BUILDING.

Those who say there was nothing to the investigation or that it was just about a BJ are disingenuous, ignorant, partisan, foolish liars.

[doug from upland]

I would love him to lead the charge to get it all unsealed.

[doug from upland]

What were some of O'Reilly's comments, if you can recall?

[doug from upland]

Thanks for the comments, but what is "Molon Labe?"

[doug from upland]

MORE FROM MY NOTES:

Yes, indeed, black votes were not counted in Florida. They happened to be, however, black Republican votes.

[Cold Heat]

Is there no way of putting Clinton behind bars?

I fear not. His presidential immunity extends into a pridefull view that it would be like putting a big black smear on the Constitution. Even right minded conservatives don't seem to have the balls to do it. The rest of the reason is that the host of co-conspirators would likely be some big time people. These scum have the drop on each other so that if one goes down the rest follow. Something tells me that the scandal would be more than anyone is willing to risk.IMHO

[Southack]

I read the Newsweek interview at a slightly different level, and it made me smile.

On the one hand, I was pleased that Clinton didn't attack President Bush over the War on Terror, recess appointments, et al.

On the other hand, I was THRILLED that the Lefties at Newsweek feel the need to do yet another puff piece on Clinton. WJC must really be lacking gravitas to have to be so propped so continuously by his remaining supporters.

Furthermore, it's probably KILLING the radical Lefties to admit that Clinton, as unpopular as he is today, is currently still the MOST popular national Democratic Party figure.

That's just got to hurt. I almost "feel their pain."

[doug from upland]

Interesting comments. It makes one wonder why Alter felt it necessary to do this interview. Obviously, the call had to come from Sinkmaster to Alter to do an interview. Kneepad Knight Alter was all too happy to oblige.

Clinton, like the Energizer Bunny, keeps going and going to try to create a legacy. But he has already earned his legacy and it won't be changed with more smoke and mirrors. The amount of stupid people is actually a finite number.

[Uncle George]

Doug, I would not doubt he read about Jim Jones and had in the Ford building reciepts for 240 million packets of grape kool-aid and one trainload of cyanide for his grand finale.

[doug from upland]

O'REILLY, IN INTERVIEW WITH MEACHEM, MANAGING EDITOR OF NEWSWEEK:

O'REILLY: Let me explain, let me explain, you have two articles here, you have one on the president's life, what he does now, that was very good, I didn't have any problems with it. Then you have an interview with him. I have problems with it.

He says, "If you had to do it all over again, would you pardon Marc Rich?" This is Alter, your guy, your reporter, and he's probably not.

And then he goes down, he gives the reasons. All right? Now, here's where my big problem comes in with Newsweek magazine. Mr. Clinton says, "Number one, the Justice Department said there were no longer -- said they were no longer opposed, and they were really for it. Had I not granted it, it would have been the only one they wanted publicly that they didn't get."

That's flat-out not true. Flat-out not true. The only person that signed off on this pardon is Eric Holder in the Justice Department, who was Janet Reno's water boy, and, you know, succeeded in blocking all of the investigations into campaign finance.

We have talked to six or seven D.O.J. [Department of Justice] people, and in the FBI they were furious, you know, Louis Freeh was furious about this. All of whom said, We recommended not giving this man the pardon. We were never consulted. Holder did this unilaterally. So why did you let this fly?

[lavaroise]

I know people, aging hippies with gray ponytails, that still talk -Idon't know if they think - just like that.

Should I join your chapter?

[Republic]

We talked about politics in general and the Democratic Party in particular. He was sad to admit that the party he supported during most of his lifetime cares about one thing only --- retaining power. Their issues involve scaring people. That's all they can do. Scare people. Schippers talked about a 1998 recording of Hillary Clinton in which she tried to get out the vote by telling her minions that she had inside information about the Republicans plan to "close down all of welfare."

Huh?....I never heard this before.....Schipper's has a tape of this? Man oh man....send it to Rush....this is truly sick. Hillary is as delusional as her husband. She continues to think that if you lie enough, it becomes the truth.

How did we ever, ever get stuck with such low lifes as the clintons? How did that happen?

Personally, I could not be in the same room with either of them. I viscerally react to their disgusting and illegal activities. How anyone can be in contact with them, or work for them or socialize with them is beyond me. Oscar de la Renta must be as stupid as alec baldwin to allow those two pathetic animals the run of his caribean hideaway. (Of course the clintons have a special goal...they NEVER pay for a vacation....they simply use their friends.)

[sneakypete]

He was sad to admit that the party he supported during most of his lifetime cares about one thing only --- retaining power.

Are you SURE he's not a Republican?

[Valin]

"This can't be for real. This man is delusional," he said. "This SOB will never be remorseful and still refuses to admit what he did."

That's because he doesn't think he did do anything wrong. I really do think that the outrage many feel for him really preplexes him. He's a sociopath, where most people have a conscience he has a large black hole. The only thing this type of person is sorry about is getting caught.

[Mia T]

Bravo, doug!

DAVID SCHIPPERS/DFU INTERVIEW ANNOTATED

[flamefront]

Pass a note to doug; Schippers could make some major news as other media pick this up downstream.

[Concentrate]

The Democrats have no sense of shame.

Democrats do have shame, but only about things that Republicans don't. They are ashamed of using too much water, or driving cars, or bringing children int the world, thereby increasing the need for these "scarce" resources; they are ashamed of not having abortions.

They are ashamed of any wealth they have, unless they are movie stars or politicians, in which case, they stuff it, and tell the peasants to be ashamed for such travesties.

They are ashamed about havng freedom, so they defend tyrranical forms of government. Democrats are ashamed to teach their few children to read or think critically, because the enslaved cannot, or don't know better.