Two Senate Candidates Walk Out Of GOP Dinner

WRAL.com ^ | March 26, 2002 | AP (No byline)

[Small business person from CA]

CONCORD, NC -- Two Republican candidates for the U.S. Senate walked out of a GOP dinner after a party official refused their request to speak.

Elizabeth Dole was the keynote speaker at the Cabarrus County Republican Party's annual Reagan Day dinner on Monday. Other GOP candidates were invited to attend but not speak.

[HadEnough]

"Critics complain that Dole is getting unusual help from party officials - including President Bush, who has plugged her on three trips to North Carolina since January."

Here in Washington State, the RNC RINOS destroyed the political careers of Ellen Craswell and Linda Smith the same way.

I will NEVER waste my vote again on a Republicrat or Demican shyster!!!!

[montag813]

Fisher, Snyder and other GOP candidates have complained about what they see as the preferential treatment party officials accord Dole. Critics complain that Dole is getting unusual help from party officials - including President Bush, who has plugged her on three trips to North Carolina since January.

Is this a joke?

It might as well say "Fisher and Snyder complained about what they see as a unusual determination to win on the part of GOP officials."

What dingbats.

[itsahoot]

Geo. Bush vs Algore:
Make that "the lesser of two weevils"!

Thanks for slapping me awake.

[Theodore R.]

Wasn't Mrs. Dole an active liberal Democrat before she met "her Bob"? As I recall, as a young woman, she served in the Johnson administration, but I can't recall in what capacity. Then after her marriage to B.D., her career took off. Gerald Rudolph Ford, Jr., named her chairman of the Federal Trade Commission. Was Bob dating her while he was still married to Phyllis? Is this the "blackmail" by bILLclinton had on Dole? If so, it could explain why Dole was "afraid" of bILLclinton. Even though Dole was a war hero who lost use of an arm in Italy, in politics, he was mostly all gruff and little fighting spirit when it came to presidential politics, certainly not a fighter for conservatism. I still do not understand why B.D. wanted the 1996 Republican presidential nomination. He left unused ammunition on the campaign floor.

[Theodore R.]

I though there is another conservative besides Snyder who might make a better challenger to Mrs. Dole. I guess it doesn't matter. The GOP establishment wants Mrs. Dole, and it will have her. Maybe she can then go over to TN and "help" Lamar! after she gets the NC nomination. Senate nominations seem to be reserved these days for broken down old defeated presidential possibilities. In colonial times, the jobs of appointed governors were similarly reserved for old broken-down English politicians, just to get them out of England.

[Theodore R.]

Conservatives did manage to nominate Steven Smith to the TX Supreme Court, and Jerry Patterson was the more conservative candidate in the GOP primary for land commissioner. Of course, he could yet fall to the Ann Willis Richards retread for land commissioner, David Berensen (Sp.?), in the fall.

[cva66snipe]

Nope we don't need Liddy or Lamar either one. We have a good man for senate Congressman Ed Bryant. If Washington tries to Dole Tennessee my vote will go first to Bryant then if he looses {which I think he won't given half a chance} it will go to an Independent.

[Theodore R.]

I knew that G.W. was fooling the conservatives all along. I was for Buchanan until he pulled out of the party and left populists without a real standard bearer. Pat wanted to debate so badly -- yet when he left the party, he sealed his own fate that he would not be permitted to debate. Had Pat been on the stage, he might have exposed G.W. as the pseudo-conservative he is. But Pat knew the GOP would never give him or his followers a fair shake. Pat, I guess, just had all the Ford-Dole-Bushism he could stand.

[Theodore R.]

I would vote for Bryant if I lived in TN, but I expect Lamar! to take 2/3 of the primary vote. People in TN just can't get enough of Lamar! He's the closest thing they still have to the revered Howard Baker. It is possible that the TVA makes TN more liberal than it would otherwise be. Isn't Lamar! known for his strong defense of the TVA, which Goldwater and Reagan, who never understood its importance to the typical TN voter. I understand that the TVA rates aren't really that much cheaper than private power in other states. Yet I have also heard that the TVA rates are definitely cheaper. Which is it? I think all of TN has TVA power except Shelby County. Right or wrong?

[cva66snipe]

I would vote for Bryant if I lived in TN, but I expect Lamar! to take 2/3 of the primary vote. People in TN just can't get enough of Lamar! He's the closest thing they still have to the revered Howard Baker. It is possible that the TVA makes TN more liberal than it would otherwise be. Isn't Lamar! known for his strong defense of the TVA, which Goldwater and Reagan, who never understood its importance to the typical TN voter. I understand that the TVA rates aren't really that much cheaper than private power in other states. Yet I have also heard that the TVA rates are definitely cheaper. Which is it? I think all of TN has TVA power except Shelby County. Right or wrong?

Some of upper east Tennessee may get Duke or other Power sources I'm not certain. As for TVA? It is not the loved agency you would think. At least not in East Tennessee anyway. Almost every family has ancestors or were themselves forced to give up their land. Yes Baker was a sell out especially on Tellico Dam. There was absolutely no justification for that dam to ever be built. The frontage property has eneded up in high dollar developers hands with the origional owners seeing none of it.

Tennessee doesn't elect it's former governors to additional offices. Bush and friends forgot to consider that fact. I can back that up with the political graveyard. Not even the late Dem political giant Frank Clemment could pull it off. Lamar has little to no chance of winning the seat. Ed Bryant vs Bob Clemment? I would give it to Ed with about 60-65%. Deffinately no lower than 55%. There are no former Tennessee governors elected to the senate on popular vote of the people. You have to go to the 1800's to find one sucessfully elected to anything significant following the governorship. Lamar Alexander was not Tennessee's choice it was the RNC & White Houses choice. Look at where the announcements came from. Fred Thompson barely had the words out of his mouth.

[Askel5]

Bush put the Liddy on tainted blood.

[Scholastic]

bump

[weikel]

LOL

[Theodore R.]

I did not know that former TN governors rarely win office in comeback attempts. Lamar! has not won an election since 1982, right? I had not checked the records of their former governors. I just can't see Bryant defeating Lamar! because the East TN vote would be probably 75 percent Lamar! Many of the TN elderly will flock to Alexander; it would be the young people for Bryant, and many of them do not vote regularly. And East TN will cast the majority of the vote in the GOP primary, wouldn't it? I didn't know about TVA land grabs. Could it be that TN people just think TVA power is cheaper than from private companies and act accordingly? I have heard of Tellico Dam but do not recall the details of the controversy. Wasn't St. Howard also a defender of the snail darter? Or was that his friend "Georgia Jimmy"? I forget after all these years.

[cva66snipe]

I did not know that former TN governors rarely win office in comeback attempts. Lamar! has not won an election since 1982, right? I had not checked the records of their former governors. I just can't see Bryant defeating Lamar! because the East TN vote would be probably 75 percent Lamar! Many of the TN elderly will flock to Alexander; it would be the young people for Bryant, and many of them do not vote regularly. And East TN will cast the majority of the vote in the GOP primary, wouldn't it? I didn't know about TVA land grabs. Could it be that TN people just think TVA power is cheaper than from private companies and act accordingly? I have heard of Tellico Dam but do not recall the details of the controversy. Wasn't St. Howard also a defender of the snail darter? Or was that his friend "Georgia Jimmy"? I forget after all these years.

Baker was against the snail darter. I'll explain it as best as it can be explained. Tellico Dam below Knoxville was the nations first test of the endangered species act. It wasn't envioromental whacko's pushing it either. It was many in East Tennessee who were just sick and tired of the overbearing dictations of TVA. It was about accountability not a snail darter common to most streams here.

The dam was a not needed. Farmers, fishermen, and others found the snail darter and used it as a tool to try and bring down TVA. Baker in a late session pushed through final funding for Tellico Dam. Here is the story

Click here to get to the link

Despite the news to the contrary Lamar has been envoled or associated with too many White Elephant costly projects in East Tennessee. One was the 1982 Worlds Fair which led to the Butcher Banking Empire Collaspe one of which was the Southern Industrial Banking Corp an uninsured S&L happened under his term as governor. There is as well the deals he was later involved with at Whittle Communications. His short tenure as University President is yet another. This stuff is known here and common knowledge. Ed Bryant can carry East Tennessee if Washington stays out of it.

[dalebert]

I was really hoping Libby would grow a brain.

[cva66snipe]

Here is another factor. Tennessee is ripe pickings for a real conservative governor and senator. We have had a RINO governor a true RINO for 8 years who has all but wrecked the states budget and is a Hillary Care shill. The dislike for moderates is running high these days with the state income tax revolt and all. It will carry over into the senate race.

[lentulusgracchus]

Thanks for reminding me about what happened to Linda Smith -- she was a good, stout conservative, and they about drug her out and shot her. I remember reading about that now.

Yup. Well, turn about is fair play, isn't it?

[lentulusgracchus]

The win by Steven Smith over Xavier Rodriguez, or "X-Rod" as the Texas Freepers called him, is already being shamelessly demagogued by the Tejano 'Rats to the Houston papers. Notwithstanding that other Chicanos have been sent up to the Supreme Court by conservative GOP voters in the past -- who just nominated a very conservative black jurist for a different Supreme Court seat. 'Gog, 'gog, 'gog is how the 'Rats are going to play it -- well, they're losing East Texas "yellow dogs", one of their core constituencies in the past, to their race-baiting.

In Texas, the 'Rats are going to run Sanchez as some kind of Hispanic Gandhi, come to claim social justice for los povres campesinos y indocumentados. I guarantee you, he's going to play like Santa Anna in East Texas -- those people have long memories.

Other than Smith and Patterson, the primaries were a disaster for conservatives in Texas. RINO's used business PAC money and endorsements from leading RINO's and newspapers to bulldoze the conservatives into the dirt. One RINO in particular, Kyle Janek, is known to be a Dim who simply registered as GOP to run in a strongly conservative and GOP district -- but he votes with the 'Rats on leadership in the state legislature, and was a top lieutenant of Democratic Texas House Speaker Pete Laney. There are others like him.

As another Freeper pointed out to me in a private Freepmail, the RINO's he's met in the past struck him as being value-free Yuppies who'd just as soon vote with the 'Rats on issues, but run as Republicans in strongly Republican areas. They are poaching, in other words, on the party identity built by conservative Republicans to get elected -- and then they either bargain everything away, like Bob Dole and Trent Lott, or they pull a Jeffords if cornered.