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TKO-Liberty Belles Trounce "Million Moms"
Liberty Belles ^ | 3/23/02 | M. Hollenbeck

Posted on 03/23/2002 8:37:56 AM PST by lowbridge

TKO-Liberty Belles Trounce "Million Moms"

by

M. Hollenbeck

You would think that a forum being held at a college in Los Angeles (arguably, but hardly so, Gun Control Capitol of the West) with the topic "Gun Ownership vs. Gun Control - Which Is Safer?" would present a safe haven for the emotional rhetoric of gun-controllers like Charles Blek and impressionable youngsters like Jennifer Mendoza.

However, when a debate is sponsored by a Libertarian group such as Students For Individual Liberty, the emotionalism that works so well with the gun-control True Believers and collegiate skulls full of mush is just so much raw meat to be tossed before hungry tigers.

L.A. Harbor College in Wilmington, California was the setting for this debate this past Wednesday, and not a chair was available. When there is the promise of podium-chewing action between the biggest anti-gun female group in America and an up-and-coming activist group that focuses on women's support of the Second Amendment, it's not likely those on the stage will outnumber their audience.

Taking the side of the Second Amendment were wife and mom Anna Zetchus Raetz, spokeswoman for Liberty Belles, and Randy Herrst of the Center For The Study Of Crime. Both came armed with confidence, statistics, and knowledge of the Constitution.

On the side of gun control were Charles Blek of the Orange County Citizens For Prevention Of Gun Violence (and wife to Million Mom March general Mary Leigh Blek) and Jennifer Mendoza, an L.A. Harbor College student in favor of gun control, armed only with emotion, sound bites, and in Miss Mendoza's case, unsourced statistics. Miss Mendoza is a very sweet, pretty young lady, but she smiled nervously throughout the proceedings and was unable to provide any backing for her claims. Mr. Blek seemed very uncomfortable with the notion that talk of his son's tragic murder by thugs with guns and a few well-placed statements on the populace's desire for more gun control laws and police support for those laws were not going to be nearly enough to make his case for "responsible gun control".

Each of the speakers were permitted about ten minutes each for opening statements.....

Rest of article here:

http://www.libertybelles.org/events/debate.htm


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: annaz; banglist; debate; libertybelles; millionmoms
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To: diotima; Bob J
We missed you guys! It was fun, there were free snacks and I got a mug with a Minuteman and the 2nd Amendment on it. (Now, for as long as I don't drink from it in front of a publik skool or near an airport, I should be able to enjoy the memories for years.)

41 posted on 03/23/2002 9:58:07 AM PST by AnnaZ
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To: AnnaZ
I love School House Rock. Everytime I read the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, I hear the School House Rock tune.

I also sing "Lolly Lolly Lolly get your adverbs here!"

42 posted on 03/23/2002 9:59:22 AM PST by diotima
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To: Frohickey

Hmm... sounds like people who don't know history are out and about.

But, hey, at least we're out and about.

;^)


43 posted on 03/23/2002 10:01:38 AM PST by AnnaZ
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To: pro2A Mom
If I'm not mistaken, both AnnaZ and Mercuria are members of the Liberty Belles not the SAS, aren't they?????
44 posted on 03/23/2002 10:02:00 AM PST by gc4nra
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To: StriperSniper

Thank you!


45 posted on 03/23/2002 10:05:22 AM PST by AnnaZ
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To: AnnaZ
Anna...........you're da berries. EXCELLENT job. :)
46 posted on 03/23/2002 10:08:12 AM PST by RightOnline
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To: lowbridge
I went to that and AnnaZ had 'em weeping in their Cheerios. She rocked!
47 posted on 03/23/2002 10:12:27 AM PST by Bella_Bru
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To: gc4nra
Yes, I never said they were any different! I choose Anna and Merc as SAS Spokespeople when they were with SAS.
I was merely relating my experience with the Bleks.
I did say that EVERYONE should keep up the good work!

I'm sorry if my post confused anyone!

48 posted on 03/23/2002 10:21:48 AM PST by pro2A Mom
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To: lowbridge
Gun Control Capitol of the West

That's "capital". A city which is the seat of government is the capital; the building in the capital city where the legislative body meets is the "capitol".
49 posted on 03/23/2002 10:25:39 AM PST by aruanan
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To: gc4nra

Thank you for the kind words, gc, you're a love. And thank you for taking the time to come and attend the debate, your presence was very appreciated.

...logic triumphs over emotion every time!

The saddest part of the "emotion" was that Mr. Blecccch(pitouie!) made not one point, nor proposes one piece (out of the multitudes) of legislation, that could have in any way prevented his son's death. That was our side. We wanted his son to have had the opportunity to survive, to fight back, to be saved.

Blecccch(pitouie!) is, unfortunately, an angry man. He couldn't hide it. I'd love to be able to look back at him fiercely, as an adversary, hate him for making my life a misery of constant activism instead of an idyllic beach-filled existence, but I can't. I really feel sorry him.

Of course, if I have the privelege of debating him again, I'll find a way. Grrrrrrrrr!


50 posted on 03/23/2002 10:28:43 AM PST by AnnaZ
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To: lowbridge
MEGA BUMP!!!
51 posted on 03/23/2002 10:29:42 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Dan from Michigan
It was great. To have someone come up after and say "Wow! You made me see things so differently now!" always makes it worth it.
52 posted on 03/23/2002 10:30:45 AM PST by AnnaZ
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To: IronJack
It was fun.
 
The closest I could bring myself to slamming Mr. Blecccch(pitouie!) was my constant referral to the inordinate love this man (Dad slays gunman inside son's store ) had for his son. Now that is sacrifice.
 
There were several members of the audience who brought wonderful personal perspective to the debate as well.
 
I canNOT wait for the next one.
 
;^)

53 posted on 03/23/2002 10:34:46 AM PST by AnnaZ
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To: Bella_Bru
I was so happy to you and StoneCold there. It makes it a breeze when there are friendly faces in the crowd.
 
smooch!

54 posted on 03/23/2002 10:38:14 AM PST by AnnaZ
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To: HangFire
And the parody?

55 posted on 03/23/2002 10:39:02 AM PST by AnnaZ
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A shout out also for Randy Herrst (in the hat behind AnnaZ, and also in image below), a capable and eloquent L.A.-area libertarian and a fellow stalwart at the monthly Karl Hess Libertarian Supper Club events. I'm sorry I missed the chance to meet Anna that night.


56 posted on 03/23/2002 10:40:57 AM PST by Greybird
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To: lowbridge
When are you going to repost the pix of you with the bevy of beautiful women?
2nd Amendment Rights:
Attacks on American Muslims Reaffirm Wisdom of 2nd Amendment

Gun Owners of America

Women Against Gun Control


The Firearms Coalition NEAL KNOX


57 posted on 03/23/2002 10:43:00 AM PST by luvzhottea
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To: lowbridge
Add to that Anna Raetz chatting up Jennifer Mendoza in her usual friendly fashion and the MMM sign-up sheet of three names for the anti-gun mailing list with two crossed off the role *after* the debate...I can well understand why Mr. Blek "would like to be anywhere else but here."

That is SWEET!!!!!!!!!!

58 posted on 03/23/2002 10:46:42 AM PST by luvzhottea
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To: AnnaZ
Sounds like ya'll did a wonderful job! Congratulations!

I wish someone would sometimes ask Mr. Bleck which of the thousands of gun laws kept that weapon out of the hands of the guy who murdered his son--or which of the myriad of gun laws passed since then would have kept his son alive.

59 posted on 03/23/2002 10:48:49 AM PST by basil
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To: AnnaZ
Great going. Here's your SONG.
60 posted on 03/23/2002 10:55:04 AM PST by doug from upland
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