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TKO-Liberty Belles Trounce "Million Moms"
Liberty Belles ^ | 3/23/02 | M. Hollenbeck

Posted on 03/23/2002 8:37:56 AM PST by lowbridge

TKO-Liberty Belles Trounce "Million Moms"

by

M. Hollenbeck

You would think that a forum being held at a college in Los Angeles (arguably, but hardly so, Gun Control Capitol of the West) with the topic "Gun Ownership vs. Gun Control - Which Is Safer?" would present a safe haven for the emotional rhetoric of gun-controllers like Charles Blek and impressionable youngsters like Jennifer Mendoza.

However, when a debate is sponsored by a Libertarian group such as Students For Individual Liberty, the emotionalism that works so well with the gun-control True Believers and collegiate skulls full of mush is just so much raw meat to be tossed before hungry tigers.

L.A. Harbor College in Wilmington, California was the setting for this debate this past Wednesday, and not a chair was available. When there is the promise of podium-chewing action between the biggest anti-gun female group in America and an up-and-coming activist group that focuses on women's support of the Second Amendment, it's not likely those on the stage will outnumber their audience.

Taking the side of the Second Amendment were wife and mom Anna Zetchus Raetz, spokeswoman for Liberty Belles, and Randy Herrst of the Center For The Study Of Crime. Both came armed with confidence, statistics, and knowledge of the Constitution.

On the side of gun control were Charles Blek of the Orange County Citizens For Prevention Of Gun Violence (and wife to Million Mom March general Mary Leigh Blek) and Jennifer Mendoza, an L.A. Harbor College student in favor of gun control, armed only with emotion, sound bites, and in Miss Mendoza's case, unsourced statistics. Miss Mendoza is a very sweet, pretty young lady, but she smiled nervously throughout the proceedings and was unable to provide any backing for her claims. Mr. Blek seemed very uncomfortable with the notion that talk of his son's tragic murder by thugs with guns and a few well-placed statements on the populace's desire for more gun control laws and police support for those laws were not going to be nearly enough to make his case for "responsible gun control".

Each of the speakers were permitted about ten minutes each for opening statements.....

Rest of article here:

http://www.libertybelles.org/events/debate.htm


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: annaz; banglist; debate; libertybelles; millionmoms
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To: lowbridge
Thanks for the ping and a 2A Texas bump.
101 posted on 03/23/2002 1:11:34 PM PST by Brownie74
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To: AnnaZ
The entire premise of the gungrabbers is based on emotionalism and lies. A modus operandi that I don't see changing any time in the future.

Again, excellent work! I sure wish I could'a been there.


102 posted on 03/23/2002 1:18:05 PM PST by Joe Brower
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To: lowbridge
Thanks for the ping! Way to go Anna! I think a couple of pearl handled pistols would go nicely with the blue top :-)

Come to think of it, many TV heroes did just that and crime stats were way below what they are today. "Bring back the leg holsters and white hats!"

103 posted on 03/23/2002 1:20:00 PM PST by budwiesest
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To: AnnaZ
"I like your optimism. But they're relentless. In the face of logic, history, truth, facts, stats and graphs, they are relentless."

True, perhaps, but the bottom line is that they are seriously un-informed. Just ask Bellisles how far that got him! Keep preaching the truth!

{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}

104 posted on 03/23/2002 1:50:42 PM PST by dansangel
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To: lowbridge
Trouncing BUMP! A great read, always fun to read about hysterics confronted with cold, hard reality.
105 posted on 03/23/2002 1:50:47 PM PST by Jonathon Spectre
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To: AnnaZ
Thank you Anna for defending the constitution.........my complements to you for all your efforts. Glad to see you had your ducks in a row and presented a factual and professional debate. Information and the intelligence to use it is power and you are clearly a powerful American !

Stay Safe !

106 posted on 03/23/2002 2:57:51 PM PST by Squantos
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To: Joe Brower
Thanks for your support JB, glad your on our side!
(Wish you could have been at the debate;-)
107 posted on 03/23/2002 3:04:33 PM PST by HangFire
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To: AnnaZ
P.S. I just remembered that Blecccch(pitouie!) stated that 750,000 "moms" were at the first Mother's Day "March". Randy cleared that up for the crowd but can you believe they're still pumping up those digits? Yeesh

Let's say there was 750,000 there(I know it's BS). That means there was about 100 the next year. That means that 749,900 heard there message, didn't like it, and didn't come back!!

They had "2500" in Lansing in 2000. They cancelled in 2001! :D

108 posted on 03/23/2002 3:06:39 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: lowbridge, AnnaZ
Constitutional expert, peerless defender of liberty and ... supermodel!!! Anna Z - the fanta -sy! Kudos Anna.

I never understood why any rational person would think that someone who is willing to commit murder would be unwilling to use an illegally obtained gun. "A Capital Murder rap, yeah that's no problem, but I just can't risk that misdemeanor for illegal possession."

109 posted on 03/23/2002 3:33:03 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: Dan from Michigan;Joe Brower;AnnaZ;Mercuria;feinswinesuksass;Kithlyara;StoneColdGOP...

Liberty Belles Wrecking Crew after the debate.

110 posted on 03/23/2002 3:37:48 PM PST by HangFire
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To: ArneFufkin
Constitutional expert, peerless defender of liberty and ... supermodel!!! Anna Z - the fanta -sy! Kudos Anna.

ping!

111 posted on 03/23/2002 3:47:43 PM PST by HangFire
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To: AnnaZ, Mercuria, Lady Jenn, incindiary, feinswinesuksass
Liberty Belles Wrecking Crew after the debate.

Wow!
L to R: AnnaZ, Mercuria, Lady Jenn, incindiary, feinswinesuksass

112 posted on 03/23/2002 3:53:41 PM PST by RonDog
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To: HangFire
Let's see if I get this: Left to right - Ma Barker, Bonnie Parker, Claudine Longet, Squeaky Fromme and ... uh ... Jean Harris!
113 posted on 03/23/2002 3:54:19 PM PST by ArneFufkin
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To: Frohickey
Hmm... sounds like people who don't know history are out and about.

Hmmm... sounds like a know-it-all loud-mouth is about to show us all how much he thinks he knows.

114 posted on 03/23/2002 3:54:32 PM PST by mrfixit514
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To: lowbridge
[Conservatives] armed with confidence, statistics, and knowledge of the Constitution.

[The Left] armed only with emotion, sound bites, and . . . unsourced statistics.

This describes every debate between Right and Left/Conservative vs Liberal/Republican vs Democrat I have ever seen. And I have seen many.

115 posted on 03/23/2002 4:04:03 PM PST by Skooz
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To: AnnaZ; Mercuria
GRATE job Anna, very professional and well informed as usual. (In stark contrast to them nervous antagonizts...) ...and a fantaztic article, Mercuriea!

Yer both battin' 1000...tanks.

116 posted on 03/23/2002 4:22:40 PM PST by Syncro
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To: lowbridge
thanks for the flag
117 posted on 03/23/2002 4:38:00 PM PST by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: Annaz
OUTSTANDING - what a fun thread to see! Sounds like another outstanding job on your part. It's still true that blondes have more fun!
118 posted on 03/23/2002 4:44:40 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: AnnaZ
love school house rock! and i read with great admiration the encounter of the trouncing of the milling moms...

sign me "proud to be libertarian"

kudos to u dos

119 posted on 03/23/2002 4:49:52 PM PST by teeman8r
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To: AnnaZ;Mercuria;lowbridge
May Mr. Blek always find this is so in a medium not dominated and controlled by the lapdog media. Amen.

Lord, that man needs a good friend who isn't pushing him into this, imho. Like "Jane Doe" and so many other vulnerable "victims", the left's exploitation leaves these guys twice-victimized. AnnaZ, a salute for your gumption and heart.(^:

120 posted on 03/23/2002 5:06:19 PM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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