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Bush says he won't legalize immigrants
The News Mexico ^ | Friday, March 15, 2002 | Stevenson Jacobs, The News Staff - 3/14/2002

Posted on 03/15/2002 1:36:05 AM PST by JohnHuang2

U.S. President George W. Bush on Wednesday denied he was considering legalizing over three million undocumented Mexicans living in the United States, government news agency Notimex reported.

Speaking to reporters in Washington, Bush said he hoped to work with Mexico on the matter, but said he would follow the will of the U.S. people.

"I don't think the wish of Americans is for an amnesty," said Bush, who added he had spoken about the issue with President Vicente Fox.

Bush and Fox are to meet March 22 during the UN Conference on Financing Development in Monterrey, where they will discuss immigration and post-Sept. 11 border security.

Just days before the terrorist attacks, Fox reportedly had been close to inking a deal that would have granted legal status to an estimated 3.5 million undocumented Mexicans and worker visas to many more.

"We've been working very closely with Mexico," said Bush.

On Tuesday, the U.S. House of Representatives passed a bill that would allow thousands of Mexicans living in the United States to apply for visas without returning to Mexico. The bill now goes to the U.S. Senate.

Bush called the measure "a good step" and urged its fast approval as a show of good faith to its southern neighbor.

The hotel and restaurant industries had been pushing hard for the bill, arguing they would be short staffed if thousands of their Mexican employees were forced to return home to apply for visas.

"What we need to do is find a way to guarantee that the wishes of employers are in balance with those of the workers," said Bush.

Several Republican lawmakers, however, have voiced opposition to loosening any immigration laws before a top-to-bottom overhaul of the Immigration and Naturalization Service and the U.S. Border Patrol.

Bush reiterated his administration's priority of achieving a safe and orderly border, and said he was confident he and Fox could agree on a plan.

"We've had a good dialogue and I don't think it's something that requires a law," said Bush.

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To: MissAmericanPie
You all are just plain liars...
161 posted on 03/17/2002 7:46:54 AM PST by marajade
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To: 4Freedom
Having a green card makes it legal for them to reside here and work here. Get a clue!
162 posted on 03/17/2002 7:50:44 AM PST by marajade
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To: marajade
The next step after that is citizenship and the right to vote. Although, they're probably already voting.

Some Jedi you turned out to be. What, now you're 'Emperor Fox's Hand'?

LOL.

163 posted on 03/17/2002 8:43:18 AM PST by 4Freedom
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To: 4Freedom
That maybe true but they doing by a LEGAL process.
164 posted on 03/17/2002 9:51:03 AM PST by marajade
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To: marajade
They violate our borders and enter our country illegally, ahead of law-abiding legal immigrants that had respect for the rule of law, and you call that legal.

Representative Tancredo was right in saying that Bush and the other pandering politicians were giving the law-abiding people that wish to immigrate to our country, LEGALY, are being given a slap in the face.

Bush, the other pandering politicians and fallen Jedi, like yourself, are literally calling them SUCKERS for not sneaking in, too.

Are you sure you're not a 'Nightsister' from 'Dathomir'?

LOL.

165 posted on 03/17/2002 10:47:34 AM PST by 4Freedom
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To: 4Freedom
They are following the law by applying for green cards and I appreciate your knowledge of EU.
166 posted on 03/17/2002 11:08:08 AM PST by marajade
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To: marajade
Regardless of what you call it, the illegals are still in the country and will remain here......I believe that's the point everyone is making......Call it what you want, they are not being deported.....So what's the difference?....Legal....Illegal, they are still here......He did actually lie if he made that statement and these folks are allowed to remain here.....That's the "Will Of The People"?....Not this person.....That "Will Of the People" sounds like such liberal Bull#### to me.....
167 posted on 03/17/2002 12:37:00 PM PST by rawe
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To: marajade
Having a green card makes it legal for them to reside here and work here. Get a clue!

They are illegal aliens. They should be deported, not rewarded.

168 posted on 03/17/2002 1:11:35 PM PST by Tancredo Fan
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To: Tancredo Fan
Then work to change the law if you don't like it.
169 posted on 03/17/2002 1:26:45 PM PST by marajade
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To: JohnHuang2;FreedomFriend;rightofrush;Joaquin;blueriver;Semaphore Heathcliffe;WDG55513;ratcat...
Dare we be encouraged by this?
170 posted on 03/17/2002 2:17:43 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: sweetliberty
I wouldn't get my hopes up.

Speaking to reporters in Washington, Bush said he hoped to work with Mexico on the matter, but said he would follow the will of the U.S. people.
"I don't think the wish of Americans is for an amnesty," said Bush, who added he had spoken about the issue with President Vicente Fox.

It would appear that Bush has the facts and is beginning to feel the heat. But he has this big hang up with Mexico for some unknown reason.

We are going to have to hold him to his words. If he starts to sway on these statements, we need to contact him and our representatives and make him hold true to his words.

171 posted on 03/17/2002 2:28:59 PM PST by Brownie74
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To: WRhine
"Like others have pointed out, if he followed the “will of the people” he would instruct the Senate to kill 245I in all its forms. Anybody here think that is going to happen?"

I'd sure like to believe it is possible. It certainly seems that he sees and acknowledges that this bill is against the will of the people:

"but said he would follow the will of the U.S. people. I don't think the wish of Americans is for an amnesty," said Bush."

I guess we'll have to wait and see.

172 posted on 03/17/2002 2:31:21 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: sweetliberty
When the President says he and El Presidente are working it out and he doesn't see the need for a law.....you'd better start worrying.....do PDDS and EOS mean anything?
173 posted on 03/17/2002 2:43:17 PM PST by Rowdee
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To: Rowdee
I am trying to be optimistic. Silly maybe, but it is a bad habit of mine. I guess I have still retained some of the "magical thinking" of earlier and simpler times.
174 posted on 03/17/2002 2:46:31 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: sweetliberty
I will only be encouraged when those several buslines which specialize in transporting persons of very recent Mexican descent, start taking their cargo only to the South, in handcuffs & return EMPTY. Don't anyone hold their breath waiting for that to happen. But do anticipate serious social disruption & disorders-there will eventually be some reaction to all this & it won't be very nice. We may yet see the Fatherland Security Police on every corner-watching us, not the criminal aliens.
175 posted on 03/17/2002 2:47:33 PM PST by TEXICAN II
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To: TEXICAN II
I know, but see post above.
176 posted on 03/17/2002 2:50:58 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: slimer
One of the problems that make this issue so controversial, why in the hell are the hotel and restaurant industries being permitted to hire these people in the first place? Last time I checked, it was against the law to hire undocumented workers. Laws that are not enforced are a waste of the paper they are written on.

Exactly what I was thinking. Let these restaurant owners that have been illegally hiring illegal immigrants have to compete with the restaurant owners that are hiring legal employees.

177 posted on 03/17/2002 2:58:38 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: JohnHuang2
""I don't think the wish of Americans is for an amnesty," said Bush,"

Ya got that right jorge arbusto, them's the breaks on that. The US people got no use for your buasiness as usual stealth amnesty word twistings.

And to the poor business owners who are basing their profits on exploting third world workers in this nation, guess you'll have to work smarter and harder then, and price yur goods and services more in line with a decent wage then using scared peons who will work for peanuts. Tuff ruck. I don't care about your mercedes payments and trips to monaco. I don't care if a hotel room costs 5$ more a night, or my chicken cost another 25 cents a bird, put americans to work first, and pay them a decent wage. And if ya can't figure out what some kinda very low level but livable decent wage is, open yuour local paper and look at what a very modest home costs, run some numbers online for a 20 year note, get those figures for payments, now what a decent running used car might cost, figure out some sort of nutrional monthly grocery bill, nothing extravagant, just enough food to eat on for a couple and two kids, add in some modest utuility bills and a few clams extra. Now do the math. THAT'S what a decent minimum "living" wage is in this nation, unless you really don't care about it., if you con't care if people are forced to live a dozen to a shabby apartment or live in their cars. That's the deal.

Now mr prez, how about you and dickie giving up using middle eastern islamic oil and quit those jobs and holdings you got and help get the US totally out of that region? totally as in buh bye raggyheads, have a nice millenium, c-ya later. And then mistah bush, what's up with enriching the chinese despots? Is this really a smooth move hauling all the US manufacturing to red china, including advanced IT high tech, and airplane high tech, and advanced machine tooling high tech, and stuff like that? so we can get what again, cheap crap at walmart? huh? Really mistah bush, that's 'smart'?

Sorry mistah bush, that ain't smart, it's short term profits traded for long term misery and disaster, you don't build up and enrich sworn enemies who have nuclear weapons and have vowed to oblitertate you when they can, and simultaneously destroy your own middle class with national policy. This is called 'stupid" mistah bush, lame when klintgula did it, just as lame when you do it.

We elcted an american president, a nations' business clerk - in -chief, not some lobbyist for internationally based big business as some sort of elected "super ceo" of profits at any cost. Consequences DO matter mistah bush. Hope you get to read this thread.

178 posted on 03/17/2002 3:13:02 PM PST by zog
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To: marajade
--what do you mean "work to change the law"? The laws are on the books, all mr bush needs to do is to enforce them, as he was elected and hired to do-enforce the laws, NOT make the laws. It is ILLEGAL to sneak into this country and get a job, or to stay here beyond your visa limits, those are the"laws", and they haven't changed yet. There's zero to change, we wouldn't be having this discussion if the laws were enforced universally. there's laws against sneaking in, and laws against hiring illegals. they are there, on the books.

Lawful immigrants in a much slower and controlled manner-no problemskis! Zero, it's cool with me! Illegal lawbreakers by the millions annually? Federal government holding a gun to everyone's heads to steal money and then not do the job they are hired to do with said money, which is enforcing the laws on the books and defending the borders, and they don't do it? Nope, totally bogus.

And it has nothing to do with US racism, it has everything to do with rule of law, morals, ethics, oath of office, and national security.

Here'sa a thought, good ole george knows what so good for mexicans, why don't he resign, move to mexico, and run for office there? He can obviously do such a good job with them, then he can eliminate the middle man and get them to stayu home and "prosper' there.

Mexico is NOT a poor country, repeat NOT a poor country , it's a rich country with 99% of the wealth held in the hands of an hereditary oligarchy based on family and 'whiter' race castillian mexican heritage "lord and ladying" over the indian/mestizo heritage populations there.. THAT'S why mexico is in a shambles, THEIR ultra racism, totalitarian government, official corruption, officla incompetence in running their own affairs, and failure to acknowledge that the middle class is any nation's productive backbone, not to have just two classes of masters and serfs. Two class societies all suck, there has never been a decent two class nation. mexico has gone way out of it's official governmental way to NOT have a middle class in mexico beyond their bureaucrats and armed goons they have to keep the population cowed. It's not because we don't "allow" enough mexicans into this nation, in fact, that's making the obvious solution for mexican problems just be postponed, and three guesses what that solution is.. And the first two are not millions more into this country, or maintaining the status quo in mexico as it stands.

179 posted on 03/17/2002 3:39:40 PM PST by zog
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To: zog
Please cite where Bush isn't enforcing the laws...
180 posted on 03/17/2002 3:56:50 PM PST by marajade
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