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Killing for God: Hal Lindsey highlights prophecies about current events
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Wednesday, March 6, 2002 | Hal Lindsey

Posted on 03/05/2002 11:32:49 PM PST by JohnHuang2

"… But an hour is coming for everyone who kills you to think that he is offering service to God."
– Jesus Christ AD33 (John 16:2)

Jesus Christ predicted that in the last days leading to his return, there would be a great wave of persecution against Christians. The unique thing about this particular prediction is that those who murder Christians will believe they are following God's word and performing a religious duty for Him. This can apply to various religions, but none more than the Muslim religion.

Under the Islamic doctrine of Jihad, Muslims have begun a concerted slaughter of Christians in many parts of the world. The most vicious treatment is reserved for Muslims who convert to Christianity. In many cases, converts are killed by their own family. Many Muslim nations have laws that require the death penalty for converts.

Again, Jesus predicted about those days, "And at that time many will fall away and will deliver up one another and hate one another." (Matt. 24:11)

The Muslim religion is the most intolerant of any major religion in the world. Intolerance of other religions is a central part of their doctrine. It is particularly intolerant of Christians.

Muslim persecution of Christians is often not the kind of "persecution" one thinks of in the 21st century. We're not talking about denying Christians permission to vote, or harassing their churches, or denying them social equality – although all three, of course, apply.

Rather, we are talking about the kind of persecution in which a Christian is given a choice between renouncing Jesus Christ and seeing themselves or their loved ones mutilated and/or murdered.

In an open letter published the other day on WorldNet Daily, the head of Servant's Purse recounted a story in which Sudanese Christians who refused to renounce Christ had a three-inch nail driven into their skulls.

"Persecution" – in terms of what it means in the Sudan – is too horrible to put into words. In the Sudan, forced conversion to Islam is a matter of official state policy.

In Nigeria, wearing of turbans and veils by male and female students in post-primary institutions is mandatory – there are no exceptions. Fourteen church buildings have been slated for demolition by the state government. One third of the Nigeria's internal states have imposed Sharia law. In one state, Kaduna, more than 2,000 people were killed in Christian-Muslim riots linked to plans to introduce Islamic law there.

The U.N. Universal Declaration of Human Rights says:

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

Muslims not only violate these human rights, their religion teaches that they should do so. A Christian is not supposed to even be allowed on the Arabian Peninsula. Non-Muslims are not allowed at all in Mecca.

In Saudi Arabia, all citizens must be Muslims. Wearing of Christian symbols, distribution, or even possession of Christian literature is a crime for which non-Muslims can be arrested, imprisoned, lashed and deported.

There are three Ethiopian Christians currently being held and reportedly tortured in the Saudi Breman Deportation Center. They were reportedly flogged 80 times with a metal cable while they were suspended in the air. They are charged with worshipping Christ in a private home.

An American missionary couple held hostage in the southern Philippines for eight months by the Muslim rebel group Abu Sayyaf live moment to moment under the constant threat of execution by decapitation.

The Koran commands, "Certainly you will find the most violent of people in enmity against those who believe to be the Jews and those who are polytheists." (Surah 5.82) Christians are called "polytheists" because of our faith in Jesus as God. This sets up Christians for persecution.

"So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make [them] prisoners, and afterwards either set them free as a favor or let them ransom [themselves] until the war terminates." (Surah 47.4)

"So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful." (Surah 9.5)

"O Prophet! Strive [Fight] hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination." (Surah 9.73)

It is fascinating to read of U.S. efforts to accommodate the religious sensibilities of the detainees at Guantanamo Bay, and of the human rights groups complaining Washington isn't doing enough. It would seem to me their services are more urgently required elsewhere.



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1 posted on 03/05/2002 11:32:49 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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2 posted on 03/05/2002 11:33:54 PM PST by Mo1
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To: JohnHuang2
Another good one. Thanks.
3 posted on 03/05/2002 11:36:24 PM PST by MarMema
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To: JohnHuang2
That note about the Koran giving non-Muslims the choice to pay the poor-rate: I was just reading a book on various religions and whoever wrote the section on Islam had to be a firm believer in it. According to that book, hundreds of years ago the Muslims, when they took over a country, couldn't possibly have been kinder to the Christians who were already there. People only converted by their own free will; otherwise, all they had to do was pay a tax, and they wouldn't have to convert, and would still get the incredible benefits of being under the control of the Sultan. They made the Muslims sound so incredibly tolerant that their "conquering" a country appeared absolutely wonderful - almost like showing up to help out the poor Christians. Apparently the "islam is a religion of peace" crowd looks at the past with the thickest pair of rose-colored glasses I've ever seen.
4 posted on 03/06/2002 1:23:36 AM PST by Moonmad27
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To: JohnHuang2
Jesus Christ predicted that in the last days leading to his return, there would be a great wave of persecution against Christians. The unique thing about this particular prediction is that those who murder Christians will believe they are following God's word and performing a religious duty for Him. This can apply to various religions, but none more than the Muslim religion.

The 20th century had 100 million people killed in wars and in other government related killing. Many of these millions were killed merely for being Christian or Jewish. Too many US Christians talk about the coming Persecuation of Christians and don't see these people as martyrs since they are non white, non English speaking, and often Catholic or Orthodox christians, not good evangelicals (Although many Baptists and evangelicals were and are being persecuted in many countries).

5 posted on 03/06/2002 3:17:44 AM PST by LadyDoc
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To: LadyDoc
Many of these millions were killed merely for being Christian or Jewish.

Doom on the moon idolizing sand monkeys if we ever decide to give them the "Holy War" they keep beggin for in their crazed rants. Holy WW-III would be just fine with me.

NO QUARTER

6 posted on 03/06/2002 3:33:41 AM PST by AAABEST
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To: LadyDoc
Yes, you are right on this one. Hal Lindsay has been wrong on several occasions, prophesying the Second Coming in the 1980s, for example.

The Word says when a prophet is wrong---if what he specifically prophesies does not come to pass---you should not follow him any more. That doesn't mean you should "dis" him, because God will do that. But I quit listening to Hal some time ago.

It is also worth pointing out than in several places a PRECONDITION to the return of Jesus is that we "should all come into the unity of the faith" and I don't see much unity out there. Indeed, every time anyone MOVES toward unity, the CFR/New World Order people rise up.

There is also the prophecy that says that Jesus would sit at the right hand of the Father "until your enemies are made Your footstool." Well, if Jesus is in heaven, then the ONLY way the enemies can be made His footstool is by us---His BODY---on earth, and there are too many defeated, un-victorious, whining Christians still here, including many on this board who WANT to be whipped, defeated, and poor. So I believe we have a long way to go yet, although there is no doubt that JESUS IS COMING.

7 posted on 03/06/2002 3:40:46 AM PST by LS
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To: JohnHuang2
Thanks John. Bump to the top.
8 posted on 03/06/2002 3:45:40 AM PST by Alas
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To: LS
You should keep in mind that Hal has never said he was or is a prophet, but he is one of the most studious of the prophecy scholars and as such is bound to make mistakes, as does any other scholar.

If scholars made no mistakes, there would be no need of mal-practice insurance. For doctors, insurance agents and dentist are scholars.

9 posted on 03/06/2002 3:48:46 AM PST by Alas
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To: LS
A great example of bible scholars making mistakes is Revelation 6, the first horse, the white horse's rider. Hal and just about half the serious scholars say the rider is the anti-Christ.

But,

The other half say the rider is Christ come to rapture His church.

You can pretty much bet that half are wrong. Does that diminish the rest of their work?

10 posted on 03/06/2002 3:53:03 AM PST by Alas
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To: Alas; babylonian; 2sheep; Jeremiah Jr
You should keep in mind that Hal has never said he was or is a prophet, but he is one of the most studious of the prophecy scholars and as such is bound to make mistakes, as does any other scholar.

Does he refund the purchase price of books, tapes, videotapes, etc. when the information becomes 'outdated' or 'revised'? His theories conflict with other 'scholars', but they have one thing in common: their stuff is for sale at the Christian bookstores. As far as the buyers and the sellers of that trash are concerned, let their money perish with them, since they think the gift of god (e.g. Spiritual discernment, prophecy, prophetic insight) can be purchased with money.

Hal can't even discern...

WHERE IS AMERICA IN BIBLE PROPHECY?

"One of the most often asked questions is "Where is America in Bible Prophecy?" America is without question the most powerful nation on earth -- it is inconceivable that such a formidable nation plays no role in the last days. Yet she is nowhere to be found in the Scriptural record. Where is she? Will she play a role? Join Hal Lindsey as he takes on this toughest of questions about the Bible, the last days and the United States of America. Find out what role America plays in the final countdown.

https://web7.webrelation.com/ssl/oracle/index.asp?Product=DVD#22

Find out... Price: $21.99

13 posted on 03/06/2002 4:21:19 AM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Thinkin' Gal
Hi,

But you have me confused, are you knocking Hal and those who sell books or are you helping him sell his book?

The tone of your reply seems to be anti-Hal, but at the bottom, you have an ad and link to buy his books.

14 posted on 03/06/2002 4:24:24 AM PST by Alas
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To: one_particular_harbour
If Hal doesn't have such expertise, then he should quit making money off of it ...

I think if you ask your pastor, you will find that what I'm about to say is true and that he has probably had the same of a similar experiance.

I have had more than one person come to me seeking information about Jesus with these words, or something close to them:

"Pastor, I just read a book by .... concerning the end times, can you help me understand..."

Now the words may not be exact, but the sentiment is, the books written by Hal and others, esspecially the left behind series, have gotten more than one to come seeking a saving knowledge of the Lord.

Is it good that they make a profit of these books? I can't answer that, but, I for one would rather see a man make a living by selling his books than going around giving them away and begging money.

Alas

15 posted on 03/06/2002 4:34:26 AM PST by Alas
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To: Alas
Maybe this will help, maybe not:

2 Peter 2:1-3

1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

17 posted on 03/06/2002 4:45:18 AM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: JohnHuang2
You know what I found, and Hal is right.
18 posted on 03/06/2002 4:47:37 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Moonmad27
They made the Muslims sound so incredibly tolerant that their "conquering" a country appeared absolutely wonderful - almost like showing up to help out the poor Christians. Apparently the "islam is a religion of peace" crowd looks at the past with the thickest pair of rose-colored glasses I've ever seen.

I'm taking a history class right now, and we're learning the same thing. Apparently the Byzantines were persecuting their fellow Christians in much the same way the Church did during the inquisitions. The Muslims were seen as "saviors" because they allowed them to practice their own brand of Christianity. Therefore many of the "christians" converted to Islam.

But what better way to conquer your enemy than with "love". I believe they tried to do the same thing with the black race in the 60s and 70s. Look how many blacks converted to Islam. Had many more fallen for it, it might have worked. Thankfully it didn't work, and now we see their true colors...

19 posted on 03/06/2002 4:49:00 AM PST by dubyagee
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To: LS
He is not wrong about these people.
20 posted on 03/06/2002 4:58:40 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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