Top-Selling Bible to Be Issued in Gender-Neutral Version

Associated Press ^ | Monday, January 28, 2002 | Associated Press

[FourtySeven]

The International Bible Society said Monday that America's best-selling modern Bible is about to get an update using gender-neutral wording, despite past criticism of that idea from conservative Christians.

The revision will be called "Today's New International Version," or TNIV. The original "New International Version," which has sold more than 150 million copies worldwide since 1978, will remain on the market.

[markn]

Here go the Bible correctors again, scribbling their ugly graffiti on the pages of the Bible. Not that the original NIV was some sort of fine work anyways.

[Jean Chauvin]

But seriously!

Which links to this.

Jean

[earonthief]

Maybe I'm off base here but it seems to me this is another attempt to make "us" swollow the NWO."Same Gender Marriages", Gender correct Bible,Disarm the people,etc. If you soften the tone and blur the meaning, you control.As many threads as I've seen at FR about NWO, this could fit right in. Just a thought.

I am a Southern Baptist and from what I can gleam from the Good Book is we are all children of God, in His own image and I don't believe there is a sexist "bone" about Him. That only applies to people who "think" they Know what God "really ment."

[Sci Fi Guy]

I went to the website for the Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood. They are a lot of resources on this and related topics. I found a very intersting article on this subject. I've never posted a link before but...

Try This

If that does not work go to www.cbmw.org click on resources then click on articles.

[ColdSteelTalon]

I'll check in to what you are saying...

[Jennifer in Florida]

The NIV is a corrupt translation. I realize it is a more modern English, but the KJV is still readable for those who have good reading skills.

Aye, there's the rub.. not everyone has good reading skills. People who have difficulty reading the KJV might just give up on reading the Bible if there wasn't a simpler version for them.

[SpookBrat]

Forgot to post in here yesterday. I need to go back to read, but wanted to mark it.

[SpookBrat]

Here ya go! Enjoy!

[Brownie74]

I am suprised that they are doing this with the NIV. It is an authorized translation of the KJV and not a paraphrase like The Good News Bible. I hope nobody buys it.

[RaceBannon]

Actually, having good reading skills translates into 6th grade reading skills, ok, maybe 8th grade reading skills. We all have that here, but I do wonder about reading comprehension sometimes!! :-)

[be131]

There are at least two words for "man" in Greek. "Anthropos" means "man" in the sense, "human". "Aner" means man, as opposed to woman. A translation which translates both as "man" loses the nuance of the original Greek. It makes a lot of sense to translate "anthropos" as "person" or "human". In fact, it is arguably a more accurate translation of the original Greek.

[homeschool mama]

Oh...checked with my local Christian Bookstore about this Bible translation. The owner kind of chuckled, shaked his head, then made mention there's no way in H.E.Double Toothpicks that translation would makes its way into his store. :o)

[RaceBannon]

I am a King James Only but not for the reasons most think.

We all, by faith, have to believe we have the Word of God in written form. If we knowingly read a book that calls itself God's word, and we believe it has errors in it and we believe it has errors in it, then we willingly are reading something that CANNOT be God's word...because it has errors in it!!

I find this a conundrum. While it is easy to believe the original Greek texts and the Hebrew are divinely inspired, the translation into other languages do not have to be divinely translated because all they are are copies, not original thoughts. For a translation to be authentic, even a Satan-Worshipper can accurately translate the Greek or Hebrew text into English; I doubt they would want to, but, we all realize, they could.

So, when it comes to the KJV, I believe it is the most accurate English translation because by faith, I recognize the arguements brought to defend it (Made by men smarter than me), and I can read the differences recorded by men(Who have more patience than me) in making verse by verse comparisons of Bible versions.

When the KJV is compared to almost all the latest translations, there are numerous verses left out of the newer versions, and doctrines are changed because these verses are left out of the newer versions.

Also, the KJV IS easy to read, if a person just tries to read!! There is someting else that we all need to consider concerning the Bible anyways, that many people forget!!

(1 Cor 2:14 KJV) But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

What other verses tells us this idea of things being spiritually discerned?

Matthew 16: 13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

So, if the natural man cannot understand spiritual things, and Peter did not have the human understanding to know that Jesus was the Christ, the Messiah, then it has to be that:
1). Spiritual teachings are not understood by simple readings of texts or by hearing. We are dependent on the Spirit of God to open our eyes and ears to what is being taught.

This means, we do NOT need a new translation every 5 years to accomadate changes in language or syntax. While it is important to have an accurate translation to start with, it is not the accuracy of the translation that makes a person understand what he/she reads, it is the Spirit of God that convicts a person of truth.

This does not mean we dont need an accurate translation!! On the contrary, back in the Garden of Eden, what was Satan's first lie?

Genesis 3:3:1 Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

YEAH, HATH GOD SAID???

Satan was putting doubt in man's thought's, he was trying to cause people to doubt God by placing doubt on what they really heard. I believe modern translations and Children's Bibles and paraphrase Bibles and parallel Bibles are all doing this: They are telling people WE DONT KNOW WHAT GOD SAID!!!

We do know what God said, and the best English translation was made in 1611 with the King James, it was corrected for spelling and some word usage over the next 60 years, and once in a great while since 1679 individual words were changed to reflect a more modern word that meant the same thing. We do not need a more modern translation, we ust need people that read the translation we have and believe it, instead of running around wondering what God said and do we have it!

[RaceBannon]

Check out post 82, that link was great.

[RnMomof7]

I am taking a class on Creation at a Bible College.The text will be a Bible. So the instructor took the first two classes to verify the bible

He said going back to the oldest manuscripts available to the modern texts there is ony a 55 word difference and none of the words impact on the text..think of that Race 55 words..2,000 years....God protects His word!

[RaceBannon]

Here are some good links

http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/sciences/science.htm

http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/sciences/scienc4.htm

http://www.middletownbiblechurch.org/sciences/scienc5.htm

[RnMomof7]

Thanks