Posted on 01/06/2002 12:23:36 PM PST by newsperson999
It was found in the wreckage of the plane in the building.
The conspiracy theorists disgust me too, because they are forever clouding the real issues with their unfounded theories. Is it me, or are the numbers of Tinfoil Hat posters on the INCREASE in FR?
I am actually thankful they were too late. Can you imagine the public reaction if they had shot down a 15-yr-old kid? Regardless of the evidence they could have shown that he had hostile intent, the soccer mom crowd and almost everyone else would lose support for the military FAST. At least this way, his intent was clearly demonstrated, boosting support for the military effort, if anything. It's much more cut and dry this way. Very sad, though.
Maybe an investigation will prove this wasn't "organized" terrorism, but it was indeed terrorism -- of the sort many have been predicting (suicide piolots). Perhaps they've established an age-limit on terrorism? Nathan Chapman's life was taken by a 14-year-old. Shall we call this "random violence?"
As Homeland Security continues to pooh-pooh events prematurely (I believe they are still insisting this is not "terrorism"), skepticism, and tin-foilism, will grow proportionately.
I agree that it's terrorism. It also proves that you don't have to be a member of al Qaeda in order to be a bin Laden "Mini Me". I'm not entirely sure what the Office of Homeland Security is doing as far as investigating...if it's doing anything much at all yet. I can't believe that a defense office with the broad ranging responsibilities that it has could even be set up yet, let alone online.
There are bound to be all sorts of mistakes and problems, both large and small, that will crop up. As long as the government knows that the public is watching, CLOSELY, and discussing their every action, they will be forced to change and improve the various programs now allocated to homeland security.
My thoughts exactly.
In Norwell, neighbors said the Bishops and their two dogs lived in the town for about a year, in 1995. They remembered that Julia Bishop spoke with a Southern accent and sometimes complained about the New England cold. She said she wanted to move south, they said.
Neighbor Bev Pinkham said ''Chucky'' Bishop was a polite boy who rode his bicycle around the neighborhood and twice complimented her on her garden
Maybe an investigation will prove this wasn't "organized" terrorism, but it was indeed terrorism -- of the sort many have been predicting (suicide piolots). Perhaps they've established an age-limit on terrorism? Nathan Chapman's life was taken by a 14-year-old. Shall we call this "random violence?"
As Homeland Security continues to pooh-pooh events prematurely (I believe they are still insisting this is not "terrorism"), skepticism, and tin-foilism, will grow proportionately.
Thanks for the reply. My thoughts too.
I'm not a tin foil hatter, never been one, but..................suspending suspicion would be a mistake.
I NEVER believe the first news briefings from government agencies. They don't have all the facts, they don't want to scare us, and let's face it, their main priority is looking competent.
You hear Rumsfeld and Tommy Franks caution reporters not to believe first battlefield reports. They go ignored, so those reporters, wanting to be first, fill our heads with inaccurate information. Same thing happens on civilian news, and I can see where that would spawn tin foil hatters.
Did you see that Tampa official who held the first press conference about this kid? He was a total inarticulate incompetent boob! Making the declaration that this kid had no middle eastern connection was obviously unfounded, and stupid! We'll have to wait days to find out why the kid and his mother moved so many times over the last few years, how they were financed, and the location/occupation of the absent (we're told) father.
We should all be very skeptical of any information that's "fed" to us.
The rumor about British origins should remain a rumor until it can be confirmed one way or another.
I still think he was an Osama "Mini Me" wannabe, no matter HOW screwed up he or his family is. I also want to know the names of all the other flight students at that school, just so we can find out, once and for all, whether there was ANY al Qaeda influence pushed on Bishop.
You are absolutely right. I disagree that the tinfoil hat crowd have left FR in droves. I try to get to FR every day, and I see them here every time I'm online.
At today's Pentagon briefing, a reporter asked how this kid managed to pull this off. "Indeterminate amount of training flights going on at all times" so says Rear ADM. John Stufflebeem in today's briefing. The good Admiral could only offer that all the involved agencies are re-thinking their procedures.
That bothers me, too. I remember an incident where Hubby and a friend overflew a naval base in Virginia, in a gas company helicopter...and you can BETCHA there were fighter jets escorting them our of the airspace IMMEDIATELY. That was years BEFORE 9-11. You'd think that military base security would INCREASE rather than DECREASE since 9-11.
When my daughter was in the fifth grade, a child in her class had obvious psychological problems. However, they seemed apparent only to the parents of her friends. Several of us approached the teacher because of how difficult she was to work with on group projects. The teacher--a very good one--said that she was aware of problems, but that b/c she was such an excellent student, the overloaded guidance counselor would never get involved. Seems grades have to be suffering before hurting children get help. Very sad.
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