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Continental Flight Diverted to El Paso Due to Unruly Passengers
AP | 12/25/01

Posted on 12/25/2001 12:58:25 PM PST by fiftymegaton

Continental Flight Diverted to El Paso Due to Unruly Passengers

The Associated Press

Published: Dec 25, 2001

EL PASO, Texas (AP) - A Continental Airlines flight from Houston to Los Angeles was diverted to El Paso on Tuesday because of two unruly passengers, officials said. Flight 627 left Houston at 11:50 a.m. and landed in El Paso at 1:43 p.m., said Roland Herwig of the Federal Aviation Administration.

"There were actually two unruly passengers on board the aircraft and as a precautionary measure the plane was diverted to El Paso," Continental spokeswoman Julie King said.

King said the 757 resumed its flight to Los Angeles shortly after it landed.

She said she had no further details, and there were no immediate reports of any injuries.

Officials the El Paso International Airport, including the airport police department, did not return telephone calls placed by The Associated Press. AP-ES-12-25-01 1553EST


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To: nagdt
I haven't finished the thread but was thinking...after spending the Christmas holiday with In-Laws and perhaps an argument with the spousal unit, I can imagine being unruly on the plane. Not towards anyone but my spouse, but definately to my spouse.

Since this case involves a married couple, that's all it was I'm sure. Unless they're a Middle Eastern married couple that is....

61 posted on 12/25/2001 6:43:24 PM PST by FITZ
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To: FITZ
I'll try to find out details and post it if the company lets me.

BTW The route to El Paso isn't direct. You have to follow certain flight paths that add miles that a distance calculator wouldn't indicate.
62 posted on 12/25/2001 6:50:40 PM PST by StolarStorm
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To: FITZ
Does your name come from the Assassin books... Fitz-Chivalry. If so, great books with multi-dimensional characters.
63 posted on 12/25/2001 6:52:04 PM PST by StolarStorm
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To: Billy_bob_bob
According to the airlines, an unruly passenger is anyone who objects to a virtual strip-search by a dull-normal mouth-breather in search of inoffensive items not usable in any hijacking.

Items still legal to carry on an airplane include metal pens, pencils, personal electronic devices with metal antennas and any number of items made of glass that could be broken into very sharp shards. Of course any fool trying to take over an airplane with an edged weapon deserves the near fatal beating he will undoubtedly get.

64 posted on 12/25/2001 6:55:21 PM PST by muir_redwoods
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To: Mr. Bird
Pre-9/11, incidents like this were more common than crashes.

Post-9/11, if it is reported to be two drunk college students, there will be at least a dozen people on this forum who claim it's a cover up.

Yes, it has to be a cover-up....I'll bet it was Amy and whats that other girls name. Or Snake Carville and Warren "middle-ages" Christopher

65 posted on 12/25/2001 7:05:48 PM PST by StoptheDonkey
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To: TankerKC
If lonestar had not been confused he would have said Texarkana instead of Houston. It is farther from Texarkana to El Paso than from Texarkana to Chicago.
66 posted on 12/25/2001 7:10:29 PM PST by rw4site
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Is that what really happens? Because the Arab guy from LA who made threats against all Americans when he was busted for smoking in the bathroom on board said he was going to sue because he feels he was treated unfairly for looking middle eastern. And you know in LA he could win pretty easily.

Haha ... actually I'm here in Los Angeles right now so I know anything happens. (grin)
You never know with lawsuits. We know trial lawyers are "lefties" and litigants play on the public's bowing to political correctness. I think some of that has changed since September 11th.
As for unruly passengers (whether they are drunk, obnoxious or otherwise) yes, the airlines do sue and more frequently in recent years. And, from my experience, the airlines usually win.
As for jurisdiction, it's not where the litigant is from but I believe it is where the plane lands. Regardless, I think you and I agree these people need to be stopped. :-)

Merry Christmas!

67 posted on 12/25/2001 7:11:52 PM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
"Two hours to fly less than 600 NM? Maybe they were unruly because the flight was making lousy time."

Not quite. Almost two hours.

Continental Airlines flight 627 left Houston at 11:50 a.m. and made the unscheduled landing at El Paso International Airport at 12:39 p.m.

For the non-Texans, Houston is Central Time and El Paso is in the Mountain Time zone, so that the elapsed time was really 1 hour and 49 minutes.

68 posted on 12/25/2001 7:12:37 PM PST by okie01
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To: StolarStorm
No. It was once my real nick name. I heard the married couple was having a heated discussion with an airline attendant and that's why the plane had to land. It sounds like it wasn't even marital spat over in-laws or something you'd expect during Christmas.
69 posted on 12/25/2001 7:44:35 PM PST by FITZ
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To: gg188
protecting airplanes is, for the airplanes' owners, a private property issue. Businesses have both a right and a duty to protect their assets and their customers while utilizing those assets.

No way. The airlines solicit people's buisness, and then arbitrarily decide to cuff someone and divert them from their promised (and paid for) destination? I'd sue them into oblivian for contract violation and false imprisonment.

70 posted on 12/25/2001 7:49:20 PM PST by southern rock
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To: gg188
On my airplane (or in my business, in my home or in my car), "unruly" is what I say it is.

That doesn't give you the right to make a citizen's arrest.

71 posted on 12/25/2001 7:50:45 PM PST by southern rock
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To: BunnySlippers
If the airline presses charges then the unruly passengers will be charged for the amount of money it cost the airline to divert the flight ... fuel and employee compensation. It's significant.

Not as significant as the counter-suit.

72 posted on 12/25/2001 7:52:10 PM PST by southern rock
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To: constitutiongirl
Yes,those were nice Times-Late 1980's,13 1/2 hour ride to Taiwan from L.A.,on business numerous times-,Smoking,Drinking, Relaxed.There was never 1 incident EVER.It's Spelled D-I-S-C-I-P-L-I-N-E!Knew it then and now people are ALL uptight.Dianne Feinstein has said she wants a limit of 2 drinks on airplanes.LOL Really loud!!!
73 posted on 12/25/2001 8:39:00 PM PST by Pagey
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To: Lokibob
Couple hundred years ago, when we had smoking sections in airplanes, it was a fun place to be. We would have a couple of drinks, meet our seat mates, talk, socialize and smoke. I remember a non-smoker who couldn't get a seat up forward, and had settled for a smoking seat say "Wow, I didn't know it was so much fun in the smoking section". We were rowdy, and the flight attendants didn't seem to mind. The non smokers thought they could improve on a system like that.

SOOOOOOOOO TRUE!

The last enjoyable flight I had was one of the last smoking flights between Sydney and LA at Christmas 1994. By then there were only six rows at the back of economy for smokers, and those of us who got those seats got them five hours before the flight departed.

In the Christmas spirit, we shared our smoking seats with the other half of the 747 who smoked. This meant that at any given time, there were 20 or so people standing at the rear of the aircraft. The sh*tty young United hostie chucked a wobbly, and the senior hostie (from the fine age of flying) finally moved her to the forward cabin and let us continue.

Since that time, flying has become more like a Greyhound bus with wings. Screaming babies, stinky people, and mad Arabs.

74 posted on 12/25/2001 8:49:32 PM PST by peabers
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To: peabers
"Since that time, flying has become more like a Greyhound bus with wings. Screaming babies, stinky people, and mad Arabs."

Actually, since smoking was banned, there are a lot fewer "stinky" people...

75 posted on 12/25/2001 11:42:39 PM PST by Dr. Luv
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To: Tymesup
I think the airlines used to recycle the cabin air more frequently when smoking was allowed, so it's not clear that the ban actually helped air quality.

Believe me, the air quality has gotten worse. Because of all the mold and dust coming out of the vents I ended up in bed for almost the whole week of my last trip with asthma attacks and pneumonia. Those weren't any darn dust bunnies and mini molds either, we're talking huge dust and mold monsters.

When I used to fly back and forth from the Middle East, the planes were wonderful, clean, not too cramped, the crews nice and professional, the smoking section a wonderful place with warm friendly people, but now they are as filthy as the air vents are.

I won't be flying when I travel again just due to the non smoking ban. I'm shocked that even international flights are now non smoking! Guess I won't be taking any overseas trips either for the rest of my life unless they start up an airline where people can smoke.

It'd be interesting to have studies on which flights more people get sick, smoking or on the non smoking, filthy planes with filthy air vents as they are now.

Heck! One time A.S.B. (After Smoking Ban), someone had thrown up in the toliet and no one would clean it up..it was all over that bathroom. We are talking *Filthy* airplanes here.

Dr. Luv, you're just like my aunt. You obsess so much about smoking that it'll kill you in the end. Learn a bit of moderation even in your hate of smoking and smokers, after all, we smokers are managing to tolerate people like you even if just barely.

Plus as one astute lady found when her gravely ill grandson was in Children's Hospital, smokers are wonderful, kind people who aren't afraid to help others and be there for others as opposed to the attitudes of non smokers in her experience at that time. And no, it wasn't because she was a smoker and the non smokers wouldn't have anything to do with her or anyone else in the waiting rooms because of that.

It's just a different attitude between smokers and non smokers.

76 posted on 12/26/2001 12:37:49 AM PST by chantal7
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
"They blaspheme the Holy Spirit, calling God's most recent miracles 'satanic deception'."

I do believe it's possible to blaspheme the Holy Spirit, but would you name for me (IYO) some of the recent miralces of God? I'm not trying to flame you, just want to get a idea of what you are talking about.

77 posted on 12/26/2001 1:03:22 AM PST by CWRWinger
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
" Our religious leaders are the real problem... And worst of all, most of them commit the Unforgivable Sin. They blaspheme the Holy Spirit, calling God's most recent miracles 'satanic deceptions'.

I am curious - What do you mean by "God's most recent miracles" which are being called "satanic deceptions??

78 posted on 12/26/2001 1:10:25 AM PST by Sceaming_Gerbil
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
"Our religious leaders are the real problem."

That is so true! And they have been the problem for 50 years. One may be able to count all the churches on one hand in your state that do not subscribe to 501(c)(3). Most church members are not aware that their pastors have muzzled the message by going along with this government intrusion into religion. And it's all done for the love of money and ecumenical greed. A tithe to God is to be a sacrifice, not a tax write-off.

79 posted on 12/26/2001 1:12:43 AM PST by CWRWinger
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To: TomB
Post-9/11, if it is reported to be two drunk college students, there will be at least a dozen people on this forum who claim it's a cover up.

The first thing that came to mind here was the Bush girls are in trouble again.

(before anybody starts to flame me I am joking)

80 posted on 12/26/2001 1:47:17 AM PST by ChefKeith
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