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I want my Christmas left alone!
Self | 12/18/01 | John McCoy

Posted on 12/18/2001 6:18:59 PM PST by jmccoy1252

I am so tired of hearing people complain about the use of the term Christmas. Throughout this CHRISTMAS season, I have heard about people left and right complaining about the term Christmas. There was the situation with Santa Clause being banned from the town lighting of the Christmas tree in a town in Maryland because two families were "offended" by Old St. Nick. In another town, people were upset by Red poinsetta's being used in a flower arrangement. So white one's were used instead but the town went nuts because somebody snuck in a red one. On Neal Bortz today, he said a woman went to a mall yesterday with the intent of giving the first sales rep $100.00 who told her Merry Christmas. Did you know not one rep said that to her? I am a department manager in a retail store, and tomorrow thru Dec 24th, I am going to make sure I say Merry Christmas as often as I can. I'm sorry Jews are offended by Christmas. I'm sorry Muslims are offended by Christmas. But get over it! I am offended every day by numerous items. Here are some examples: It offends me that abortion is still legal in this country. Bill Clinton offends me. Hillary Clinton offends me. Al Gore offends me. The ACLU offends me. The events of 9/11 offend me. Martin Luthor King day offends me. My ex-wifes drug dealing husband offends me. That's just the beginning of the list, but you know what? I get over it. I also go to the Lord in prayer about alot of these things, especially my ex-wifes husband. Christmas is about the birth of Jesus Christ. It is a fact! It happened! If people can have their MLK day, and Gay Pride day, then let me have my Christmas Day in peace. God bless you all! Thanks for letting me vent on this subject. May you all have the merriest of all Christmas's!


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1 posted on 12/18/2001 6:18:59 PM PST by jmccoy1252
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To: jmccoy1252
MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!
2 posted on 12/18/2001 6:24:25 PM PST by JD86
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To: jmccoy1252
My ex-wifes drug dealing husband offends me.
Humph. You had me right up to your ex-wife's drug dealing husband.

I want my drugs left alone, man.
3 posted on 12/18/2001 6:25:02 PM PST by Asclepius
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To: jmccoy1252
let me have my Christmas Day in peace.

And CHRISTmas is, afterall, a National Holiday, as established by our Congress. So you have every right to enjoy it and celebrate it here in peace.

God bless you, too, and

M E R R Y ...... C H R I S T M A S

4 posted on 12/18/2001 6:29:03 PM PST by LoneGreenEyeshade
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5 posted on 12/18/2001 6:31:28 PM PST by jrherreid
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Amen JMcCoy1252. I am telling everyone I meet/greet to have a Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year. To heck with the liberal policy of political correctness. If Bush can recognize Ramadan at the White House, we Christians can surely have Christmas in our very own country.
6 posted on 12/18/2001 6:34:53 PM PST by LillyDayStar
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To: jmccoy1252
I'm glad you vented, and I wish you a MERRY CHRISTMAS too!
7 posted on 12/18/2001 6:38:47 PM PST by Exit148
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I'm so sick of "Happy Holidays."

Whatever happened to MERRY CHRISTMAS?!

I refuse to say "happy holidays" ... I'm a Merry Christmas kinda guy, and anyone who doesn't like it, can lump it far as I'm concerned.

8 posted on 12/18/2001 6:40:41 PM PST by usconservative
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Merry Christmas To All!

Had to do that!

9 posted on 12/18/2001 6:41:25 PM PST by usconservative
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To: jmccoy1252
Merry, Merry Christmas!!!
10 posted on 12/18/2001 6:41:35 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: jmccoy1252
Agree! Merry Christmas!
Yesterday, while I was behind the counter working, I said that to each customer.
Today, while out shopping in the mall, I said that to each salesperson and cashier.
In every case, I said it first!
11 posted on 12/18/2001 6:46:53 PM PST by ladyinred
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Anyone who is offended by Christmas is being intolerant.
12 posted on 12/18/2001 6:47:06 PM PST by DeckTheHallsHolly
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To: jmccoy1252
If you want to hear someone say "Merry Christmas" or even "God Bless You" --
drop some coins in the Salvation Army Bucket.

I made a vow in October that I would not pass a red bucket this year without a donation;
and I've gotten one of the two responses without fail every time.

13 posted on 12/18/2001 6:53:03 PM PST by Tourist Guy
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i have about the same reaction to "happy holidays" as i do to "have a nice day."

excuse me? if i choose to have a crappy day, i will do so without
your help. happy holiday my butt... you got a problem with Christmas?

Merry Christmas to you. May God spread his grace on you and your family.

take a clue.

...and when they saw that star, they rejoiced with exceeding great joy.

yup. Merry Christmas to you and yours, and no less.

14 posted on 12/18/2001 6:56:39 PM PST by glock rocks
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I'm with you!!! I'm sick of the PC people messing with Christmas. At a local post office the employees put up a Christmas tree and were told by their superior to take it down because it might offend someone.

I feel sorry kids growing up today. I have such good memories of Christmas. Singing "Away in a Manger", participating in building a minature replica of a Nativity scene. Did anyone of you make paper chains to go around the school Christmas tree?

15 posted on 12/18/2001 6:56:59 PM PST by Vicki
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Don't worry, Jesus is bigger than all those things you mentioned...

Psalm 108:4 For great is your love, higher than the heavens; your faithfulness reaches to the skies.

16 posted on 12/18/2001 6:57:13 PM PST by InvisibleChurch
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CHRISTMAS SYMBOLS DON´T MAKE THE GRADE IN U.S. SCHOOLS

Officials Banning Signs of the Christian Holiday

WASHINGTON, D.C., (Zenit.org).- Despite the rise of religious sensibilities in the wake of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, Christmas is an unwelcome holiday in many U.S. public schools this year, reports the Washington Times.

Signs of low tolerance for the Christian holiday abound.

A Frederick County, Maryland, school employee was told by an administrator that employees would be banned from handing out Christmas cards in the school because cards with a Christian message "may not be a legally protected right on a public school campus."

A fourth-grader in Ephrata, Pennsylvania, was prohibited from handing out religious Christmas cards to classmates.

Two middle school students in Rochester, Minnesota, were disciplined for wearing red and green scarves in a Christmas skit and for ending the skit by saying, "We hope you all have a merry Christmas."

Two ninth-graders in Plymouth, Massachusetts, were told they could not create Christmas cards that say "Merry Christmas" or depict a nativity scene.

A teacher in Plymouth, Illinois, was warned by her principal not to read a book about Christmas to her second-grade students. The book was in the school´s library.

The superintendent of the Silverton, Oregon, school district had students remove all "religious" holiday decorations from their lockers but allowed secular decorations.

The county school board in Covington, Georgia, deleted the word "Christmas" from the school calendar after the American Civil Liberties Union threatened legal action.

"We´re getting besieged," said John Whitehead, president of the Rutherford Institute, a Charlottesville, Virginia-based organization that provides legal help in cases involving religious bias.

Whitehead said his group has received at least 50 complaints or inquiries, including the above examples, about situations in which students or teachers were told that various Christmas decorations or messages were banned at their schools.

In nearly all cases, the Rutherford Institute informed the complainants that school officials overstepped their bounds.

Meanwhile, the Catholic League, the nation´s largest Catholic civil rights organization, is protesting a policy in New York public schools that allows the display of the Jewish menorah and the Muslim star and crescent, but not the Christian nativity.

"They are discriminating against Christians; we´re contemplating a lawsuit," said league spokesman Patrick Scully told the Washington Times.

Problems arose when the Catholic League received a copy of a memo that Fran Levy, principal of the Thomas Jefferson Magnet School of Humanities in Flushing, New York, issued teachers Nov. 30.

In the memo, Levy urged teachers to "bring in Muslim, Kwanzaa and Jewish secular symbols."

"I would like to display these religious symbols equally," the principal said, apparently unaware that Kwanzaa is a nonreligious celebration.

The Catholic League was disturbed that there was no mention of Christianity.

It discovered that a Christmas tree had been put up at the school, but Levy had ordered it to be taken down.

She said the tree was too large, compared with the menorah and the crescent and star.

The Christmas tree was displayed again after the Catholic League complained to New York school officials.

But they rejected the league´s demand that a nativity scene also be displayed at the school alongside what the league described as other "religious symbols."

The league was surprised to receive a copy of a memo on holiday displays, issued by the general counsel to Harold Levy, chancellor of New York City Public Schools.

The general counsel´s office said: "The display of secular holiday symbol decorations is permitted. Such symbols include, but are not limited to, Christmas trees, menorahs, and the star and crescent."

Harold Levy (no relation to the school principal) reiterated this in a statement.

But of the league´s bid for a nativity scene, he said, "The Supreme Court has previously refused to permit erection of a nativity scene on public property."

The Catholic League immediately fired back a letter to Harold Levy, disputing his statement about the Supreme Court´s rulings on nativity scenes.

In the letter, William A. Donohue, league president, cited a 1984 high court decision that, in his words, held that "religious symbols placed next to secular symbols pass constitutional muster because the government is not endorsing religion."

Donohue noted that another high court ruling, five years later, found that a menorah placed on the steps of a Pittsburgh courthouse was permissible because it was next to a Christmas tree.

But the court said a nativity scene erected in the government complex was not constitutional because it stood alone.

Whitehead confirmed those legal opinions and said he believes the Catholic League´s arguments are correct.

Asked if Harold Levy now believes a nativity scene could be displayed in a New York public school, if it were grouped with other religious and secular symbols, Margie Feinberg, the chancellor´s spokeswoman, said Levy is reviewing the matter.

17 posted on 12/18/2001 7:05:43 PM PST by jmp702
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Mall tells 6-year-old boy in Santa costume to be jolly elsewhere
18 posted on 12/18/2001 7:06:14 PM PST by lowbridge
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Wow. Things truly have changed since I was in grade school. And that wasn't very long ago!! (I'm 21 now) I remember going to nursing homes and civic club meetings with my school choir and singing Christmas carols to the elderly patients with no family, and to entertain stuffy old geezers from Kiwanis and Rotary. It truly is a terrible shame that these activities are now non-existent. The joy that these "field trips" brought myself, my peers, and our audience was so uplifting then. Can things really have changed THAT much in 10 years? Red and green construction-paper garlands with Christmas wishes written on them, school plays (The Best Christmas Pageant, Ever!), Santa Letters, all these things are a thing of the past! Have we truly come to be a society that honors nothing? Even as an atheist, Christmas time has ALWAYS been a time of celebration of peace among all people, spreading good cheer with my family and friends, and most importantly (for me at least), singing songs that have been sung for centuries celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ (yes, I believe in Jesus). I have never been offended by Christmas, Chanukkah, Kwanzaa, or even (until recent events) Ramadan. But to me it seems ironic that all displays of religion except Christianity is OK!! Why the exception? If you are going to exclude religion, than exclude ALL religion. Something like this needs to be all-inclusive or all-exclusive. And PLEASE, don't take away the magic and love of the winter months from the children! Their innocence has already been violated enough by the actions of a few radical freaks.

OK, I'll get off my soapbox now =)

Merry Christmas, happy Chanukkah, Have a joyous time of celebration, whatever holiday you do (or don't) celebrate.

19 posted on 12/18/2001 7:31:06 PM PST by eastforker
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oops, I forgot to log on my account. This is PurVirgo speaking ;)
20 posted on 12/18/2001 7:31:52 PM PST by eastforker
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