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What is Free Republic all about?
Free Republic | 12/08/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 12/08/2001 4:43:40 PM PST by Jim Robinson

What is Free Republic all about?

Free Republic is a personal avocation and project of my own. Prior to Free Republic, I had been a regular poster on the Prodigy Whitewater News BBS. Prodigy was an online service similar to the Internet, but more limited in scope. You had to be a paying subscriber or member of the Prodigy service to access it.

Prodigy was, at that time, a joint venture of two giant multi-billion dollar, commercial for profit enterprises, namely, Sears and IBM corporations. On Prodigy, we had several hundred members of this particular Whitewater BBS and we were engaged in posting news articles, primarily regarding President Clinton and his corruption. We had been doing this for at least a couple years. I believe I got started on Prodigy sometime in 1993 or 1994.

Each Prodigy BBS (and there were many) had its own moderators. Moderators were regular Prodigy members just like the rest of us, but they had volunteered to serve as moderators and they came and went and were generally not all that visible or problematic. Some of the Prodigy moderators cautioned that they might delete copyrighted articles, but they almost never did. One particular moderator started deleting some of our posts and it wasn't because they were copyrighted. Other posts, in fact, thousands of them remained up and they were complete full text copies of copyrighted articles. The posts were deleted simply because of the nature of their content and several of our members raised quite a stink about it.

This was in 1996, and I had already started getting interested in the Internet by that time. My company had acquired a small ISP service in 1995, and I was learning how it operates and saw its potential.

Prodigy had a very limited scope in terms of attracting a large audience. You had to be a paying subscriber to Prodigy in order to access the postings and, at the time, any serious participation was fairly expensive as they did not offer flat rates. You had to pay by the hour for access.

I wanted a larger participation and I did not want to be controlled by others. I had learned enough about the internet and how to establish websites, and thought that I could establish my own site and hopefully develop a larger readership than we had on Prodigy.

I had not been all that politically active prior to President Clinton's election. Yes, I complained about government and politics just like everyone else, and I participated in every election since I got out of the service in 1969, but politics was not particularly high on my list of priorities -- until Slick came along.

I had been a registered Democrat, but I did not necessarily vote Democratic. My first vote in a presidential election was cast for Richard M. Nixon. Over the years, I had began reading and listening more and more to conservative writers and commentators. I knew that the newspapers and news media were lying and I knew that government had been encroaching on our individual rights and that our politicians were as corrupt as the day is long. I also knew that nothing would be done about it unless we the people somehow joined together to exercise our political free speech rights to expose the corruption and demand that it be stopped and demand that the erosion of our individual rights be stopped and reversed.

As a result of all this, I set up the Free Republic website in September of 1996. At first I posted all the materials myself. I searched the internet looking for forum software, but was not very successful in finding any. I found and tested a few products, but they were all fairly primitive and did not have the features I was looking for. There were not very many forum software products on the market at that time, so I decided to develop my own.

I wrote the original version of our forum software and installed it on my website in January or February of 1997. Then I posted notices on BBSes, forums and newsgroups all around the Internet and invited others to join me in our political free speech forum. I also submitted my URL to as many search engines as I could find.

I also continued my Prodigy membership well up into the middle of 1997 and everything I posted on Free Republic, I also posted to Prodigy and included a link back to my forum. I was never kicked off of Prodigy for any reason as some have alleged. I also posted many articles and threads to the various political newsgroups and included a link back.

Soon people began reading and participating in Free Republic and the rest is history.

Free Republic is simply a political bulletin board and it was and is not a commercial business. The concept of posting copyrighted news articles under the fair use rules for discussion purposes is not new and is not mine. It had been a long standing practice, engaged in by huge multibillion dollar international corporations like Prodigy, (owned by Sears and IBM), Genie, Compuserve and many others, as well as wide open newsgroups and tiny one man operations on the Internet or even on private BBSes. And prior to computers, the practice of news clipping and posting and or reprinting had been going on since the times of our founding fathers. Political free speech was essential to our founders then, and is still essential today in order to maintain freedom and guard from tyranny.

The Congress is forbidden by the first amendment of making any law that would control or abridge or restrict or diminish our right to free speech. Free Republic is nothing more than an electronic edition of the original Liberty Tree.

We post articles and invite our participants to comment on them. We share them, compare them, examine them, look for lies or inconsistencies, expose corruption, praise good works, condemn the bad, spread the word, debate, develop plans and strategies, build activist groups, and carry out various activism projects. All of these activities are guaranteed us by our Constitution and we are definitely operating squarely within our constitutional rights and within the letter and intent of the law.

The fact that my personal avocation has grown beyond the point that I can no longer pay for it myself without help from willing donors does not change the underlying concept. It is a primarily a political discussion forum and it is a constitutionally protected activity. Nothing more nothing less.

When the first alleged copyright and unfair competition complaints came in, I posted them to Free Republic and many people discussed and debated the facts and options and whether or not we should fold up or fight off any attacks on our forum. Many of these people offering their opinion were lawyers and many of them (including our own Brian Buckley) said that we were operating well within our rights and that we should continue and that we should fight for our rights.

Well we did.

To be continued in Part II.



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81 posted on 12/08/2001 8:15:33 PM PST by Texaggie79
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82 posted on 12/08/2001 9:18:21 PM PST by WIMom
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To: Texaggie79
LOL!
83 posted on 12/08/2001 9:18:52 PM PST by WIMom
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To: Rightly Biased
You will just have to do what I did. I spent so much time on FR, that my husband may have felt neglected, although he never complained. I just finally convinced him to start logging on, and now he is almost as hooked as I am!
85 posted on 12/08/2001 9:29:22 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: Jim Robinson; RJL
FR ISP Bump!

Fantastic idea!

86 posted on 12/08/2001 9:57:42 PM PST by woollyone
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To: Jim Robinson
Thank You, Jim.....
87 posted on 12/08/2001 10:05:36 PM PST by The Drowning Witch
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To: Jim Robinson
FR is about "Iron Sharpening Iron" - and it does, on a regular basis! "Who loves it, Baby!"
88 posted on 12/08/2001 10:11:30 PM PST by 185JHP
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To: Jim Robinson
Yes, Jim, I remember you from the Whitewater forum on Prodigy. Perhaps I still have a 'hangover' from the moderators to 'stay on subject'. Actually, I have heard from various sources (media) that this forum was one of the best informed in the nation.

Me, I usually posted in the White House forum. And I did learn much from many talented and informed persons when it was 'per yearly contract' instead of the 'pay to view' that came later. That wiped out a lot of insider information, methinks.

Anyway, that is why I hate to see FR doing a downhill slide into chat rooms, football scores in breaking news and vanities that have nothing to do with Conservatism.

But, I still love you, Jim.

89 posted on 12/08/2001 10:31:21 PM PST by Conservababe
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To: cactmh
JIMBO...$5 month service charge? Who'd pay it? We all would. Do it. Those who wouldn't aren't true Freepers.
90 posted on 12/08/2001 10:46:36 PM PST by MotleyGirl70
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To: MotleyGirl70
There is only one thing I "hate" about Free Republic; it keeps me up too late past my bedtime (weekends). (I should have been sleeping two hours ago.)
91 posted on 12/08/2001 10:52:07 PM PST by MotleyGirl70
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To: Jim Robinson
My lucky day was following a link to this forum--placed by a complaining liberal. This is the best message board on the net. Quick with breaking news--you usually read it here first. I'm hooked and contributing monthly. All I can say is ((((THANKS)))).
92 posted on 12/08/2001 11:04:40 PM PST by LizM
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To: Jim Robinson
Just wanted to say "thank you" Jim. For almost 2 (or 3?) years I have been here, and I am (hangs head up in pride) and addict. People look at me funny because I talk about my friends named Dog, WIMom, Miss Marple,Chairman,Bitwhacker,etc., but it doesn't bother me anymore. ;-) Now for some breaking news: just the OTHER NIGHT, my hubby, Mr. DJ, said, "I'm watching Tom Brokenjaw....what does FR say about this Berry situation....?

I almost fainted...;-)

Keep up the great work.

93 posted on 12/09/2001 1:25:58 AM PST by DJ88
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To: LizM
You know how I found FR? By pulling up Drudge...I wanted to find out what/who this FR was...and from then on I was ADDICTED. I used to sit by the computer for hours waiting for someone to reply to a post I had made. (This was back in the old times when you didn't have a self-search). ;-)
94 posted on 12/09/2001 1:27:58 AM PST by DJ88
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To: Bitwhacker
Thanks for the bump
95 posted on 12/09/2001 1:41:41 AM PST by Neets
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim... just a "thank you"- your efforts are greatly appreciated. You mentioned:

Prodigy, Genie, Compuserve...

....Lordy, Lordy, what memories- I belong to all of them, and more, long ago!

96 posted on 12/09/2001 2:35:12 AM PST by backhoe
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To: Jim Robinson
Thanks .
Thanks for having the vision to see the need for FREE REPUBLIC .
Thanks for building this site .

You provide fertile space for the growth of conservatism . Thousands of people read these threads weekly and for each of these readers there is another thousand who share your beliefs and have not found these pages . It is this untapped resource that spooks politicians and publishers and broadcasters and educators .

You have their attention !

97 posted on 12/09/2001 4:31:22 AM PST by Stopspin
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To: MotleyGirl70
JIMBO...$5 month service charge? Who'd pay it? We all would. Do it. Those who wouldn't aren't true Freepers.

As Jim Robinson has pointed out many times, the moment he does that, FR is no longer a "non-commerical" enterprise, and the fair-use defence goes out the window.

98 posted on 12/09/2001 4:58:38 AM PST by bulldog905
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To: Jim Robinson
"The Congress is forbidden by the first amendment of making any law that would control or abridge or restrict or diminish our right to free speech. "

I'm sorry Jim, but despite my great respect for you and so many members here, I need say something's wrong with this. I'm aware of the free speech dimension, but there's a commercial dimension.

Just like free speech doesn't include a right to be published against the will of the publisher, I think free speech doesn't include a right to republish creative works against the will of the author (or his publisher).

There are ways to direct people to the full text of articles while enabling their discussion. If it really was a conflict between property rights and free speech, it might be different. But it's only a conflict between property rights and convince.

Best regards and great respect, Bill Carson

99 posted on 12/09/2001 5:00:31 AM PST by elfman2
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To: RJL
Jim, One thing everyone on FR uses, is an ISP. It seems like a high percentage would sign up with a FR ISP if it was available for a competitive price.

Holy cow! If you want to bankrupt FR, you couldn't come up with a better way.

ISP'S are contracting in the dot.com bust and are awash in red ink.

The moment FR leaves a "non-commercial" status, it loses the fair use defence and leaves itself open to many legal and civil problems.

The donations are working. Why ruin a good thing?

P.S: Yes, I have donated.

100 posted on 12/09/2001 5:04:48 AM PST by bulldog905
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