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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Askel5
Mea Culpa! I am reading this long thread, and had a brainstorm and posted it, and then came to yours which was my idea done before I had it.

Which I guess makes it your idea.

Which means you should get the credit.

Which means you should be rich in a perfect world... ;-)

921 posted on 11/29/2001 4:11:40 AM PST by Hugh Akston
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To: Jim Robinson
Hi Jim
I love FR
I'll do anything to keep it going
count me in
I appreciate it so much that you have this wonderful site
it's a gift to all of us
Love, Palo
922 posted on 11/29/2001 4:12:16 AM PST by palo verde
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To: RightOnline
Hello, RO!

Nah, I wasn't banned for being "vicious" with others. That was a cover story, at best. I was banned for asking questions about the WP/LAT vs FR case. I fully expect to be banned again very soon. Hopefully not before I hit "post reply" on this though.

Best wishes,
Callahan Banned

923 posted on 11/29/2001 4:12:52 AM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: pattycake
Pssssssttt.....When someone puts something in a post in italics it usually means they are stating someone elses view, that they are going to disagree with.

Liberal Classic did that in his post #532 in response to Arator. So you attacked the wrong person. Liberal Classic is a conservative poster. And if you reread the response(the part below the italics) you will notice that.

You see the Socialist hijacked the term Liberal some years ago, so those of that ideology adopted the term Clasic Liberal to differentiate themselves from the Socialist.

925 posted on 11/29/2001 4:13:45 AM PST by PeaceBeWithYou
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To: Jim Robinson
NO! FR cannot go away! I say to the whiners: either like it or lump it. If they don't like it here, there free to leave.

I'm STAYING...thanks, Jim and John and all of those who help keep the website running...this is home for me. Thank you.

926 posted on 11/29/2001 4:14:12 AM PST by DJ88
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To: IronJack
Then we could return to a day when the conversation sizzled, the topics were pertinent and as fresh as the morning coffee, and the exchanges generated light as well as heat. Jim can't do it. The moderators can't do it. It's up to us.

Sizzled

...that says it all! That's what i miss.
927 posted on 11/29/2001 4:14:54 AM PST by wewillnotfail
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To: Carolinamom; Snow Bunny; LadyX; COB1; Scuttlebutt; Fred Mertz; razorback-bert; michigander...
FR helped me make it through many a long night on our cruises and makes the snowed in days here more beautiful. Mrs. ofM and I can take a break from journal writings and check in to FR to see what's happening outside.

Let us all increase our donations.

928 posted on 11/29/2001 4:15:11 AM PST by ofMagog
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To: Jim Robinson
OMG no Free Republic?

That would be like this = The end of Life as we know it! Keep FR going I implore you sir (pretty fancy words don't ya think shipmate). Don't let the REFM's tell you different the world would collapse if you and FR went away.

929 posted on 11/29/2001 4:15:53 AM PST by SERE_DOC
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To: Jim Robinson
But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

I vote for that option.

930 posted on 11/29/2001 4:17:48 AM PST by OK
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To: Jim Robinson
Please keep this forum alive. I've watched nasty liberals ruin other forums/message boards and crush all conservative thought. It would be disappointing to see Free Republic go down. I'm new but my check will go out this week to keep FR alive and well.
931 posted on 11/29/2001 4:17:58 AM PST by LizM
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To: Ratatoskr
Who the hell are you to pretend that your opinion is valuable, required, remotely intelligent, or that you are among some "need to know" group who needs to verify the funding of this site? Disrespect only goes one way here - from you upwards, not vice versa.
932 posted on 11/29/2001 4:18:43 AM PST by 11B3
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To: Jim Robinson
I think FreeRepublic is not only a great place to come to online, but also a necessity - if we didn't have FR, the conservative movement in America would be damaged and vulnerable...

That being said, I'm trying to do what I can to help FR (with that project I mentioned, Jim - I've almost gotten enough volunteers to get it going full-tilt!) in my own unique way.

FR is too valuable a tool to just throw away. I have been coming here on and off since 1997, and it always my first stop for information, links, and conversation.

We CANNOT let the detractors win!

933 posted on 11/29/2001 4:20:15 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks
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To: JohnHuang2
As always ... well said my friend.

God's best to you and yours.

934 posted on 11/29/2001 4:21:29 AM PST by Jeff Head
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, even after thousands of posts expressing love, good-will, and thanks—you still have a greater impact on people than you may ever know. I know I have difficulty expressing just how dear Free Republic has become to me.

It was your goal, your dream. You were the one who shed blood and tears for it. You are the one who continues to bear the liability, the attacks, and the venom . . . These are the cost of great vision.

William Shakespeare, in Twelfth Night wrote, "Be not afraid of greatness: some men are born great, some achieve greatness and some have greatness thrust upon them."

I don't know which of these you are, but I do know that you have undertaken a great task, provided a great service, and had a great affect on the conservatism. Greatness carries with it a difficulty that few can bear. But you do not bear it alone. You will be affirmed with donations, prayers, words of encouragement, and friendship. I hope that these make the sustaining of your great work a little more endurable.

Thank you, Jim, and God bless you, your staff, and your work.

935 posted on 11/29/2001 4:23:01 AM PST by theophilusscribe
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To: malador
Yes, use Wal-Mart. The People's Liberation Army thanks you.
Wal-Mart = China. Get it? Buy American, boycott our enemies.
936 posted on 11/29/2001 4:24:30 AM PST by 11B3
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To: Jim Robinson
As for me, Give me FreeRepublic or give me conservative net death!

Monetary Support on the Way!

937 posted on 11/29/2001 4:25:23 AM PST by BA63
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To: Jim Robinson
FreeRepublic is the "light on the hill" as far as politics is concerned. It's only when you are attacked that you truly know you're making a difference. Some folks just can't handle the truth.

I give to FR monthly, and will continue to do so. I wouldn't care if you were getting rich - our capitalist system defeated the USSR didn't it?

God bless America, and you Jim Robinson. Thank you sir, for making a difference.

938 posted on 11/29/2001 4:25:58 AM PST by 4CJ
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
"I WAS banned for discussing the fact that Clarity had quit and posting questions about FR's new attorney."

IHC, I wasn't even aware of that fact until I read Jim's post this morning. Do you by any chance have a URL for the thread. Hang tough! Peace and love, George.

939 posted on 11/29/2001 4:26:10 AM PST by George Frm Br00klyn Park
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To: Jim Robinson
I want to thankyou for creating this site in the first place. As Drudge, Fox and others have done... you are letting the the truth be known and of course, a place where we all can speak out loud! This site is where I get my daily news, laugh, if I am having a bad day at work, this site takes me away for awhile. I enjoy it very much. Keep up the great site Jim! Fight the liberal media from shutting you down!
940 posted on 11/29/2001 4:26:29 AM PST by gopgirl
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