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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Jim Robinson
Dang. I didn't check to see if I was granted amnesty until just now and it's too late to chat.

Hi, Howlin, how's it goin'?

Eat your heart out, TDE.

Love that "Loose lips sink ships" thingEy on the preview page.

621 posted on 11/28/2001 10:36:54 PM PST by aligyrl-02
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To: Jim Robinson
580-3 sounds about right... nobody is buying this 'fraud' business either.
622 posted on 11/28/2001 10:36:59 PM PST by GeronL
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To: Arator
Free Republic is not the only conservative forum out there.

Then why are you so damn obsessed with it? How about naming all the "other" conservative forums that are as good as you seem to think this one is.

BTW, I hope you're not including YOUR forum as one of them; I've seen it; pathetic.

623 posted on 11/28/2001 10:37:32 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Jim Robinson
Thank you!
Thank you!
Thank you!
Thank you!
Thank you!

Now I'll be able to sleep tonight without having nightmares .... :-)

God bless you and keep you, Jim!

624 posted on 11/28/2001 10:37:38 PM PST by kayak
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To: Great Dane; sinkspur; Jim Robinson; JohnHuang2; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; Snow Bunny; Billie...

JIM IS YOU EVER CLOSE THIS SITE DOWN, THEY WIN!!!

Gosh, this is the first place on the internet that was a voice for conservative minded people. It's a family affair here!! So many of our family reads this site daily!!

There really is no other place that has the kind of "news" that this site has, and always has had!!

There will forever be "Whiners".. "Boo hooo,.. I got banned and I'm not sure why.. where's the Freedom man" Types. They are FREE to not visit.

I have said before, we do get strange people here at times. But generally they come and go away when they are hit with logical debate.

IN MEMORY OF BARBARA OLSEN, CHIEF NEGOTIATOR, AND ALL THE OTHER WONDERFUL FREEPERS WHO ARE NOW GONE, BUT SUPPORTED AND PARTICIPATED IN THIS FORUM, .. THIS SITE MUST NEVER CLOSE!!!!

I urge you to have a banner where you have a link to donate. A permanent banner at the top of all forum topics. There has to be a way to do this, but allow you Jim to keep your dignity. I really hate that you must "by neccessity" come here and post WHY you need the money. We are all so lucky to have this site to visit.

Anyone with any common sense, knows this website cost money to run. But before you,.. before FOX news, this Nation was being brainwashed. Those who were concerned "were and are" grateful that Jim Robinson started FreeRepublic.

PLEASE PUT A BANNER AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE WITH AN EASY LINK FOR DONATING TO KEEP YOU RUNNING. IT COULD SAY SOMETHING LIKE "IF YOU LOVE FREEREPUBLIC, PLEASE HELP US CONTINUE BY DONATING GENEROUSLY".

I say continue with donations, until they aren't enough, then you will have to charge a monthly fee. We are all behind you Jim in whatever you have to do. This should be FUN,.. and not so stressful. You deserve better than that.

BTW,.. I could volunteer some time if you needed it to help in some way from home. Let me know, you've been here for us.. now let us be here for you.

625 posted on 11/28/2001 10:37:40 PM PST by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: Aurelius
"A Grand Deception?" the purpose of which deletion I was completely unable to understand

I didn't understand why that one was pulled either.

I know one thing though, it would be incredibly tough for JimRob and the moderators to please everyone all of the time. If something gets pulled, I usually chalk it up to one or two people ruining the good things at the expense of others.

I think that was kindergarten 101. :-}

I for one am grateful that the moderators are here. I've seen a lot less disruption since they started.

626 posted on 11/28/2001 10:38:02 PM PST by abner
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To: Jim Robinson
To all anti-FReepers...

627 posted on 11/28/2001 10:38:10 PM PST by VaBthang4
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To: aligyrl-02
You're interested in how I'm doing? That, in itself, is interesting.
628 posted on 11/28/2001 10:38:24 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Jim Robinson
Dear Mr. Robinson, You are a true patriot in every sense of the menaing of the word. I admire what you have done to keep those of us likeminded folks togther in our purpose of having access to news reports from all over the world and a forum to discuss them in. I have lived most of my life in Arkansas, up until recently one of the most corrupt states in the US. We had to deal with Bill Klinton for the longest period of time/.... I have made wonderful friends here at FR. Can't imagine what my life would be like with out them now. I realize I haven't done as much as I should to keep the bills paid, but I am a warrior out in the field of conservative issues and it costs money to be in the game and be effective!I wish I would win Powerball or the lottery and then could fund my activities and FR as much as I would like to. Maybe it is time to charge an annual membership fee same as Rush has, FR would be more appreciated and the disruptors would be less likely to get in and used up expensive bandwidth! God Bless, Miss Anne
630 posted on 11/28/2001 10:39:19 PM PST by missanne
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To: Jim Robinson
Are you prohibited from selling t-shirts, hats, coffee mugs, stuff like? Surely not, but certainly I wouldn't be the first to have thought of that.
631 posted on 11/28/2001 10:39:29 PM PST by Aurelius
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To: kayak
Thanks for the ping, kayak -- MEGA, MEGA PING COMING UP!
632 posted on 11/28/2001 10:40:13 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: TKEman
Well paisano I am so elated that you decided not to post here(FreeRepublic), anymore.Who needs your kind of liberal garbage anyways! With your stupid attitude and condescending way of writing(like you are some superior being)do you really think you are going places?
Do I have to hammer into your thick skull that this is a PRIVATE place, not eligible for public disclosure.Which part of the "PRIVATE" you do not understand?(let me translate to you slowly...it is like a little dictatorship type, just like the army)nobody has to disclose one iota to anybody, not even to scheisters like you...got it?

Let make myself clear...take your little law crap, and shove it. I am eating little fishes like you for breakfast....

633 posted on 11/28/2001 10:40:27 PM PST by danmar
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To: AuntB; nunya bidness; GrandmaC; Washington_minuteman; tex-oma; buffyt; Grampa Dave...
PING!
634 posted on 11/28/2001 10:40:31 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: Ace2U
Good to see you again, F.

Stay out of the treetops.

635 posted on 11/28/2001 10:40:38 PM PST by alcuin
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To: aligyrl-02
With all the filthy vitriol you spew over in your cess pool website, THAT is all you have to say? PATHETIC.
636 posted on 11/28/2001 10:40:39 PM PST by diotima
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To: Buckeroo
Hey Buckeroo. The answer is simple. Just stop attacking people and stop posting the four letter cuss words and you will not have so many problems. You might be surprised at how many people might like to read what you have to say (if you make it more pleasant for them to read it). Try it sometime. You might like it.
637 posted on 11/28/2001 10:40:44 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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To: Howlin
If you have a free access site, you can't get mad....when people don't pay to visit!

Visting FR without paying is not a right, it's a privilege extended by the owner, so you have no reason to belittle them for accepting the privilege graciously.

638 posted on 11/28/2001 10:40:46 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Jim Robinson
No and No...

Thanks Jim!

PS. Don't get bothered by the disruptors on your site...YOU RUN A FREEREPUBLIC FORUM AND INVITE EVERYONE...OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME NUTS THAT DISAGREE/ARE JEALOUS/CORNY/ETC...you KNOW how much you're loved/needed...and I KNOW how much you appreciate us!

639 posted on 11/28/2001 10:40:48 PM PST by notyourregularhandle
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To: Howlin
HOWLIN,Lets Roll
LOOK TEK HAS A PLAN!

TKEman 2:16 am
To: FLEM_SNOPES unread (18 of 18)

I've composed my reply. I also posted that I will not post on the thread again this evening. Let's see if the thread exists for a couple of days.

SAYS TEKMAN

640 posted on 11/28/2001 10:41:16 PM PST by TLBSHOW
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