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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Jim Robinson
Keep it alive. I panic when the system goes down.
3,561 posted on 08/05/2002 5:51:55 PM PDT by YadaYada
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To: Jim Robinson
Stay...stay....stay....stay...FreeRepublic is no fraud...
3,562 posted on 08/05/2002 5:59:39 PM PDT by KLT
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To: rintense
Thanks for the ping, rintense. Long live the FreeRepublic!
3,563 posted on 08/05/2002 6:00:00 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow
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To: Jim Robinson; Grampa Dave; kristinn; tgslTakoma; staytrue; Angelwood; Gore_ War_ Vet; ...
I will gladly pay....no question....I'd go insane without you...afterall, I'm in the Socialist Republic Of NY...

KLT AKA Karen

Ping Y'all...Keep FreeRepublic Alive!

3,564 posted on 08/05/2002 6:03:18 PM PDT by KLT
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To: Jim Robinson
Why not have advertising and banner ads to cover costs? Also, I'd pay $10.00 a month to subscribe to FR. It's the best thing on the web!
3,565 posted on 08/05/2002 6:05:44 PM PDT by Henrietta
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To: Jim Robinson
Keep FR up and running. So what that there are FR bashers out there. Who cares. If your site wasn't effective and well used they wouldn't be bashing. Envy. Let them disrupt we can handle it. We have formed a real community with real opportunity to express our ideas and we have a genuine core of great people here.

Charge a monthly fee. I'm all for whatever works to keep FR alive. FR is not a publically held company and your finances are your business and if you should make a profit, well profit isn't a dirty word and you have danmed well earned it.
3,566 posted on 08/05/2002 6:11:43 PM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, I think we should wait until after the 2004 elections before we make any rash decisions about disbanding. No sense in making hasty decisions! However, those Freepers that have the wherewithal to do a monthly contribution I would ask you to do so hastily. I'm sure accounting would be simpler knowing exactly what was coming in each and every month. Jim, thanks for starting Free Republic and may God continue to bless...
3,567 posted on 08/05/2002 6:12:51 PM PDT by bazbo
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To: Yehuda
OMG, this is really up for a vote?

Of course it should stay.

I will absolutely curl up and die if it goes...

3,568 posted on 08/05/2002 6:14:58 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: Jim Robinson
Sell more advertising.
3,569 posted on 08/05/2002 6:16:03 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: KLT
Yes, keep it going.
3,570 posted on 08/05/2002 6:19:07 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: justshe
But as soon as some decide to 'visit'---OR---'register' for the sole purpose of disruption, then you are right back in a 'who's sandbox is better', childish, disruptive situation, no?

So your upset that BobJ did this?

3,571 posted on 08/05/2002 6:25:32 PM PDT by DeadManRunning
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
Keep Free Republic going. Anyone who does a lot of good is going to have detractors. Anyone who leads is going to get sniping. The more effective you are the more complaints and whining there will be.

There are many people who need this website me included.
The least any of us who use this site can do is stand behind it. Even better is to help support it.
3,572 posted on 08/05/2002 6:27:18 PM PDT by hoosierpearl
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To: Yehuda
I remember this old thread.
3,573 posted on 08/05/2002 6:30:26 PM PDT by Silly
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To: Coleus; Jim Robinson
Yes, keep it going.

Good going Coleus....that's the way I feel...

3,574 posted on 08/05/2002 6:35:58 PM PDT by KLT
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To: justshe
I was just reading and saw that right above my post. It's too bad. LP could be a good Libertarian site if it wasn't so negative.
3,575 posted on 08/05/2002 6:37:44 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: Jim Robinson
BTTT!
3,576 posted on 08/05/2002 6:51:53 PM PDT by bazbo
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To: KLT
Well, Here I Am---'Last in line!!

I KNOW YOU, JimRob ; You're the guy who "re-invented" the "Liberty Tree!!"

A few years ago, I embarrassed myself by openly CRYING in front of my WIFE as I watched "The March For Justice" on C-Span!!

A While Later, We humbly stood to honor the "House Managers!"

A Year or so Later, WE KNEW who, "The Angel in the Whirlwind" "W" referred to was.....

YOU, SIR, Have had a PROFOUND INFLUENCE on the Philosophy & the Future History of our Nation!!

The VAST MAJORITY of us Believe, "YOU Done Good!!"

BUT SIR!!----You Cannot leave your "Work" unfinished!!

You have given your fellow Americans a "Renewed Access" to our Traditional "Liberty Tree,"--We NEED this place to re-affirm our Values, & ReDedicate Ourselves to ANNIHILATE the PSYCHOPATHS who would Harm US & our CHILDREN!!

IF, for Some Occult Reason, Our Species must Die;===SO BE IT!! ( A LOT of us will be Disappointed!!)

IF WE ARE TO LIVE, Then LET Us DELIVER on our Species POTENTIAL!!

WE CAN GO to the STARS!!

FOR "GOD'S SAKE," ----LET'S DO IT!!!!!

Doc

3,577 posted on 08/05/2002 6:55:06 PM PDT by Doc On The Bay
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To: DeadManRunning
I mean exactly what I said...ANYONE who visits/registers for the sole purpose of disruption is an instigator. There is room for all......IF....IF all respect the rights of others.

But I notice........you don't address those coming to FR for the purpose of disruption. And it is very much a two-way street, isn't it?

I also asked.......when was the last time you saw an LP thread copied and pasted on FR for the purpose of ridiculing it?

Doesn't that tell you something?

3,578 posted on 08/05/2002 6:55:49 PM PDT by justshe
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To: terilyn
GMTA........LOL!
3,579 posted on 08/05/2002 6:57:55 PM PDT by justshe
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To: Jim Robinson
BTTT
3,580 posted on 08/05/2002 7:01:10 PM PDT by bazbo
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