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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

Free Republic has had one helluva run over the last five years or so. We helped impeach one president and helped get another into office. We've been active in demonstrations and protests in nearly every city across the nation. We've participated in conventions, petition drives, activism campaigns and projects for dozens of conservative causes.

We've grown from a tiny web site with a few hundred posters and readers from the time of inception in 1996, to one with tens of thousands of participants today. Along the way we've made lots of great friends and, unfortunately, also made lots of bitter enemies.

We've grown from a small web site that I could manage myself on a part-time basis to a huge monster that has totally consumed all of my time and resources plus nearly all of John's time, plus the time and resources of many dedicated FReepers who volunteer or contribute large amounts of their own time and money.

The site is now consuming all of a 10 mbps dedicated line with two servers and we're still growing, and it consumes large amounts of money to keep all this running. In the early years, it only took a few thousand dollars per month to keep Free Republic on the air, but it is now costing over $20,000 per month to cover all expenses.

The major costs include approximately $8,000 per month for bandwidth, 3,000 for systems management and programming services, 7,000 for management, operating and administrative services, plus two or three thousand per month for miscellaneous office expenses, telephone, communications, repairs & maintenance, travel & lodging, postage, rentals, insurance, legal fees, accounting fees, etc., etc.

We anticipate a reduction in bandwidth costs next year as we renegotiate our contract (the market price for bandwidth has fallen recently), however, that will be more than offset by an expected increase in costs of our legal expenses. As most of you know, our pro bono attorney has left us and we've hired a new attorney to continue with our case, plus we have the suit against eschoir to pay for. My projections are that our regular monthly expenses for next year will be running in the neighborhood of $22,000 per month, or approximately $264,000 total for the year. This means we will need to raise approximately $66,000 per quarter.

Talking about making enemies, we've got several ex-FReepers and other detractors who are claiming on their anti-freeper web sites that I am ripping off the donors and that Free Republic is a fraud. Now, Free Republic is what it is, and it is definitely not a fraud. It is a conservative news discussion forum that encourages participation in politics and activism projects. It is not being billed as anything else. We are not selling or promising anything. And I am being up front about our operating costs. The costs of running Free Republic are what I've stated above and they are necessary to keep FR on the air. I do not have the financial wherewithal to operate this site without your help. If the majority of the FReepers feel that these costs are out of line or too much to bear or that Free Republic is no longer wanted or needed, then we will either cut it back or shut it down or do something altogether different.

I've also been criticized about not making our financials public. Well, the reason I do not want to do this is that I have been sued, both personally and as Free Republic, LLC. The people suing us want to bankrupt us and shut us down. They subpoenaed our financial records, but we refused to turn them over. The judge agreed that the plaintiffs have no right to the information, thus I have no intention of making any more of it public than I absolutely have to, until this lawsuit is resolved. You all know the amounts of money we raise if you follow the fundraising threads. It is all above board and out in the open. The totals posted by BadJoe are usually pretty close to the actual cash received and the amounts expended are pretty close to the amounts projected. No one is getting rich here and no one is being ripped off. The funds raised are being used for the purposes stated, and that is keeping this website on the air and that's it. Nothing fraudulent about it. Those who want to help fund us freely do so with nothing expected in return. Those who do not want to contribute do not have to.

There was a thread running this morning where people were making all kinds of accusations about Free Republic "hiding the truth" or whatever. These accusations are being made by Chuck Allan and others and fall along the same line with the accusations being made by some of the earlier banees or AFers including Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan, Arator, keep U.S. Sovereign, TKEman and others. Some of these people are existing FReepers and some are banned. I am going to reinstate Mojo, Inspector Harry Callahan and Arator's accounts so they can join Chuck Allan, TKEman, K.U.S.S. and whomever else wants to get involved, and I invite them to come onto this thread and make their accusations public. As long as they do not go onto other threads and make a nuisance of themselves, I will let them have their say.

Like I said above, if it is time for Free Republic to go away so be it. Those who want to keep it going speak up. Those who want it to go away, tell us why. But if those who want it to be gone lose out in the debate, then I'd say they should just go away themselves, or, in the very least, shut up and quit whining about it.

Thanks,

Jim


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To: Arator
He and I went at it over and over. I still have email from him that are vulgar and childish. But despite all that he came back again and again. And I liked the guy, even though we went at it. How many chances was he given vs the rest of the banned freepers? That is my point about A+Bert. As for the rest of the banned freepers, I can't say if they even ever tried. Maybe it's kind of like "Fight Club". Maybe you have to stand on the porch for 3 days in order to get in. I don't know. Some are willing to do it, others are going to stick to their pride.

I don't know you but I do know your name from my lurker days. You still have some respect around here from what I can tell. As I said, everyone has a different threshold for how much pride they are willing to swallow. I guess ole 'Bert has met his threshold. Everyone knows by now pretty much what is expected. A nearly universal clemency has been granted. It's up to those who want to come back to take the opportunity or not, knowing what it entails.

2,581 posted on 11/30/2001 6:02:43 PM PST by monkeyshine
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To: Jim Robinson
FreeRepublic is the best site on the web.
Yeah we've had our problems (like all families).
Het Jim, do you guys accept NORFED's?

One more thing, how come sometimes I can't close tags, are you guys having problems or is it on my end?

Te</font color= red>st t</font size= 5>est test</font face= creepy>

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test test test.

Oy-vay

2,582 posted on 11/30/2001 6:03:05 PM PST by Mikey
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
He did now, but he didn't then.
2,583 posted on 11/30/2001 6:03:16 PM PST by monkeyshine
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To: Joe 6-pack
Now that's a damn good idea. Definitely worth every penny.

I'm in.

2,584 posted on 11/30/2001 6:08:45 PM PST by Mikey
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
"Anyhoo, regarding sticking around Free Republic: Would you?"

I'll admit that I was shocked when you were banned since I'd never seen you violate any of the forum rules. Granted, I don't read everything that's posted here, but based on the vast number of your posts that I had read, I'd never seen you be anything but a gentleman. BTW, I thought that a remarkable feat considering all the abuse that was daily thrown your way.

Half an apology is as good as it gets sometimes, so I'd probably stay if I were you. A lot of people appreciate your posts and FR hasn't been nearly as interesting without you. And nobody, I repeat nobody, can handle the "welcome wagon" crew as well as you can.

2,585 posted on 11/30/2001 6:11:37 PM PST by Artist
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To: malador
I like the way you think!

Please talk to Mrs. Dawgg! She sez I don't think, and I am living proof of that old Axiom: "Men are Dawggs!"

Woof

2,586 posted on 11/30/2001 6:12:57 PM PST by Mad Dawgg
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To: Mikey
Big red, normal black.

Close each font-related tag with a simple < /font>, omitting "size" and "color" and so forth.

2,587 posted on 11/30/2001 6:16:32 PM PST by dighton
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To: Cyber Liberty
All right, be nice! I posted this well before I read to the bottom of the posts. I responded towards the beginning. I have since read through the posts. Things have changed! So, we go from syrup to hot pepper! Sorry to change the tone :) Now back to the spice!
2,588 posted on 11/30/2001 6:18:38 PM PST by jcmfreedom
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To: Jim Robinson
Dear Sir: I am very new to this website. Until two days ago, I had never heard of freepers, anti-freepers or any of the other epithets which are being spawned in this fine pond. I was, however, naturally attracted by the title ("Is Free Republic a Fraud?") given to this "thread." I have not read the allegations of fraud, but I have read the defense you posted and I believe you have overlooked an important argument in your favor. On the bottom of each page, reference is made to your being located in Fresno, California. As a native Californian, I can attest that no one who has ever successfully committed a fraud worthy of discussion has wound up in Fresno, California.
2,589 posted on 11/30/2001 6:19:02 PM PST by christianswindler
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To: Mad Dawgg
Please talk to Mrs. Dawgg! She sez I don't think.

Mrs. Dawgg is always right, as you know perfectly well.

Mangia!

2,590 posted on 11/30/2001 6:19:30 PM PST by dighton
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To: Artist
Thank you for your kindness, Artist. I'm thinking about sticking around but kinda doubt it. Especially since I'll probably be banned soon anyways. I'm thankful for the opportunity to come here and defend myself concerning Jim's posts about my banishment. That needed to be set straight. I'm not "caustic" and I wasn't banned for "insulting other posters after repeated warnings and suspensions".

That was crapola, as was about half of the "half apology". But I was able to post a rebuttal to that too, though I haven't been regaled with a reply.

For the chance to rebut all of this, I am thankful. Concerning the financial aspects of Free Republic, that's never been my thing. I don't really follow that "wing" of anti-freeping too much. I'm more concerned with the censorship and heavy-handed treatment of some of the memebers.

Kindest regards,
Callahan

2,591 posted on 11/30/2001 6:24:42 PM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Jim Robinson

"The rights of man come not from the generosity of the state
but from the hand of God."

God blessed us with Jim Robinson and his wondrous gift of the FreeRepublic.
Long May She Live as the valient voice of Liberty so that all the world can read and see Freedom Brightly Shining!

The naysayers can naysay, and yet their nays will not stop the Truth from blazing in cyberspace. Source of quote: President John F. Kennedy's Inaugural Address

2,592 posted on 11/30/2001 6:34:02 PM PST by harpo11
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To: Jim Robinson
Free Republic is a key forum. You must keep it alive. When I hear that Time Magazine is even thinking about naming OBL as "Man of the Year," I realize how critical it is to have a forum which can counter the irresponsible, liberal press. Place a button on the site for contributions -- I'm sure the response will be strong. Keep up the good work. LET'S ROLL!!!
2,593 posted on 11/30/2001 6:40:01 PM PST by jrlc
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To: Arator
Hey Arator. You might want to take a looky here. FYI.
2,594 posted on 11/30/2001 7:02:04 PM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Jim Robinson
A series of 5 FReepmails from Clarity to Z2 today are being posted HERE for comments. It's an open forum. Feel free to read, discuss and decide if they're the real thing.
2,595 posted on 11/30/2001 7:04:09 PM PST by aligyrl-02
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To: aligyrl-02
The sheer irony of it all...
2,596 posted on 11/30/2001 7:05:12 PM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
Harry, I'd like to publicly thank you for standing up for me.

That aside, you're still a jerk. :-)

2,597 posted on 11/30/2001 7:06:37 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
You could have taken care of that via FReepmail, there was no need to post that publicly. It is a FReeper's duty to clean up when a mess is made. You were wronged in a very serious way. I'm glad you are a strong person and can handle such things.

As for me still being a jerk. I know. But I'm a LOVEABLE jerk. >;^)

Warmest holiday wishes to you my FRiend.
Callahan

2,598 posted on 11/30/2001 7:10:26 PM PST by Inspector Harry Callahan
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
You defended me publicly; you deserved a thank you publicly.
2,599 posted on 11/30/2001 7:13:11 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
To quote an "anti", isn't irony ironic?
2,600 posted on 11/30/2001 7:15:35 PM PST by aligyrl-02
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