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Hijackers' bodies set Bush grisly ethical question
The Times (U.K.) ^ | 10/06/2001 | DAMIAN WHITWORTH

Posted on 10/05/2001 4:51:32 PM PDT by Pokey78

IN carefully numbered plastic bags in refrigerated trucks parked at the mortuary at Dover Air Force base in Delaware sit human remains that have presented the Bush Adminstration with an ethical problem.

US investigators told The Times that they had certainly recovered, if not yet identified, the bodies of several of the suicide hijackers, prompting a debate over how to dispose of what is left of the most hated men in America.

The excavation of the Pentagon and Pennsylvania crash sites was completed this week after forensics experts concluded that they had removed all body parts from both scenes. Officials said that although many of the remains were fragmented and charred, DNA tests would eventually identify all of the victims. The bodies of the men who killed them would also be identified, if only by a process of elimination.

The Administration is worried that if it gives the bodies to their families to bury there will be a public outcry. There are also concerns that other Islamic extremists would regard their graves as shrines.

The remains from the plans that crash into Pentagon and in Pennsylvania are being organised at the mortuary at Dover. Some have been identified by traditional methods, such as fingerprints, dental records and other distinguishing features.

Already hundreds of fragments have been taken in test tubes to the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology (AFIP) laboratories in Rockville, Maryland, for DNA testing. The institute identified all 230 victims of TWA 800 flight, after that aircraft exploded and the fragments plunged into Long Island Sound in 1996.

Paul Sledzik, the forensic anthropologist who led the search for the 44 passengers, crew and hijackers on board Flight 93, which crashed in Pennsylvania, said that he was confident “we are likely to get 44 unique DNA profiles”. Scientists will use genetic material taken from the victims’ possessions, including razors and toothbrushes, or from their relatives, to make DNA matches that reveal the identities of the victims.

The FBI is believed to be extremely anxious to identify the bodies of the hijackers, especially as there are still doubts about some of their identities and there could be trials of other conspirators.

If relatives are persuaded to co-operate in providing reference samples, or the hijackers have left behind genetic material on possessions, the FBI believes that they could be identified.

Even if the identities are not clarified, the authorities will be left with the remains of nine hijackers from the two sites.

There is a precedent for handing over the remains of even the most notorious figures in American life. The body of Gamil el-Batouty, the co-pilot of EgyptAir Flight 990, who apparently committed suicide by crashing the aircraft into the Atlantic in 1999, was quietly returned to his family in Egypt last year for a private burial.

Even the nation’s most loathed murderers are allowed burial after execution.

Chris Kelly of the AFIP indicated that the authorities were reluctant to consider releasing the hijackers’ bodies. “We are not quite sure what will happen to them,” he said, but “we doubt very much we are going to be making an effort to reach family members over there.”

A source close to the investigation said: “There is this idea that if America is a country of justice it should not be seen to stop the mothers of even the worst monsters from burying their sons, but people would be outraged if these men were handed over for a Muslim burial.”

The Justice Department declined to return calls requesting comment on what it planned to do with the hijackers’ bodies. In the short term the remains are likely to be held for several years, in case of legal proceedings.

Mohammed Atta, the suspected ringleader of the hijackers who died in the first plane to hit the World Trade Centre, laid out strict instructions for his funeral in his will, revealed this week.

The likelihood of any sort of burial of his body is, however, vastly diminished by the difficulties of retrieving remains at the World Trade Centre. Of the more than 5,000 who died there, fewer than 400 bodies have been identified.


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To: Everyone
Everyone has good ideas.
and there are going to be a lot of remains.
So lets give them the deluxe treatment and divide up the remains and do it all.
161 posted on 10/05/2001 8:36:23 PM PDT by Mid-MI Student
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To: Pokey78
bury em in pig dung.
162 posted on 10/05/2001 8:38:26 PM PDT by goodieD
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To: Pokey78
Put the remains in a drone,then crash it into one of their buildings or temples.
163 posted on 10/05/2001 8:45:48 PM PDT by South Texas Lady
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To: Pokey78
Roast a female pig for each body. Pack a burnt crisp female pig with each dead hijacker. Send the packages to the taliban, C.O.D.
164 posted on 10/05/2001 8:49:20 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: irish_lad
I do believe there's an actual brand of dog food on the market called "Atta Boy"
165 posted on 10/05/2001 8:49:23 PM PDT by goodieD
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To: Pokey78
Actually, they should be buried in unmarked graves.
166 posted on 10/05/2001 8:49:59 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: father_elijah
rockets cost money. pig dung is free.
167 posted on 10/05/2001 8:51:07 PM PDT by goodieD
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To: Pokey78
Feed them to the hogs, then feed those hogs to other hogs.
168 posted on 10/05/2001 8:57:30 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana
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To: Criminal Number 18F
Thank you for the historic suggestion. My personal opinion was to bury at sea with no ceremony. I think any attempt to desicrate would just reflect badly upon "civilization." The approach history suggests appears reasonable and does not reflect badly upon us.
169 posted on 10/05/2001 8:58:34 PM PDT by Robert357
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To: TX Bluebonnet
I believe it has to do with not believing in embalming bodies.
170 posted on 10/05/2001 9:02:40 PM PDT by 185JHP
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To: LLAN-DDEUSANT
I've seen your anti-Israeli diatribes on other posts. Why don't you go back to your Palestinian friends at DU?
171 posted on 10/05/2001 9:04:57 PM PDT by goodieD
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To: Mid-MI Student
I know the Clintons are desperate for media.... but do you really think they are going to eat that?

Don't tell them what they're eating,and offer to pick up the tab. Since when have either of them ever turned down a free meal?

172 posted on 10/05/2001 9:09:30 PM PDT by sawsalimb
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To: BraveMan
Brother, you are indeed a brave man to say that. Even so, my visceral feelings are otherwise. Pray in Jesus' name for me, that the Lord wash me of these hostile feelings. Loving the sinner but hating the sin - in all Mankind - is such a cross to bear. But Christians are commanded to so...

Though, I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil...

173 posted on 10/05/2001 9:10:06 PM PDT by raygun
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To: Pokey78
Grind them up, then pack them into Thermonuclear warheads which we then drop on their supporters and families.
174 posted on 10/05/2001 9:10:11 PM PDT by nomad
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To: Pokey78
Cremate them and give the ashes to a Rabbi.
175 posted on 10/05/2001 9:13:12 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: Illbay
That is totally incorrect. The barbaric ancient Roman custom of suicide was the best hope of providing for the family of those that would be left behind (it was the alternatives that were attrocious). This is something is documented thousands of times as the Imperial governorship of the Roman Empire changed...
176 posted on 10/05/2001 9:16:58 PM PDT by raygun
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To: ~Peter
Toss them in a dumpster ....... and let the rats have 'em.

Or you can always just click on. . . .


177 posted on 10/05/2001 9:19:27 PM PDT by VA Advogado
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To: raygun
Still doesn't answer my question.
178 posted on 10/05/2001 9:20:56 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: Pokey78
Ethical problem? Are you kidding? Incinerate the remains and mix the ashes with pig dung. Drop the packages of crap on a bombing run over Bin Laden's lairs.
179 posted on 10/05/2001 9:22:30 PM PDT by Lent
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To: Pokey78
Cremate them with 70 virgin pigs, grind up the ashes to fine powder and pack the powder in the missles that are going to wipe out Osama, The Taliban, Al "Q", and the training camps.
180 posted on 10/05/2001 9:26:47 PM PDT by stlnative
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