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CALM DOWN-We are at War.Now How do we decide who to fight and how to fight
Just an ole combat veteran | now | me

Posted on 09/11/2001 7:50:32 AM PDT by A+Bert (Outta here)

War has been brought home to us in a very dramatic way. Television has a way of doing things with war that isn't reality.

God Bless America and may Bush do the right thing


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To: Valin
VERY good POINT ... we cannot blame Bin Laden or Arabs or Palestinians for everything. We MUST have proof before we react.
121 posted on 09/11/2001 8:41:30 AM PDT by theoriginaldeepthroat
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To: BlueLancer, Michael Rivero
"Eat $hit and die, Michael, you ol' terrorist-symp you."

Woah, buddy...while I tend to agree that Bin Laden and his scumbag trolls were most likely responsible for this tragedy, Mr. Rivero's words in Post #32 make a lot of sense. Find out who's to blame, then PUNISH THEM IN A WAY THAT NO ONE ON THIS PLANET WILL EVER FORGET!! But we can't afford to go off half-cocked, because for America to kill folks who had nothing to do with this would simply expand this tragedy further!!

FReegards...MUD

122 posted on 09/11/2001 8:42:39 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: CubicleGuy
It is going to be a tough call for Bush and his policy makers.
123 posted on 09/11/2001 8:42:57 AM PDT by A+Bert (Outta here)
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To: A+Bert
This is war.

The question becomes, "Who do we declare war on?"

After Pearl Harbor, the answer was clear: Japan. Hitler cleared up any differences of opinion regarding Germany by declaring war on us.

Now, the finger pointing will begin. Some will blame Osama Bin Ladem and want to make war on Afghanistan. Some will blame the Palestinian Authority and demand that it be destroyed. Some will claim that this was a plot by the Israeli Mossad to lure the USA into a war against the Palestinians just as Winston Churchill and FDR allegedly allowed Pearl Harbor to be surprised in order to get the USA into WW II. Some will blame narco-terrorists getting revenge for the extradition of Ochoa. Some may blame Lybia. Some America-haters will blame stray missles for a U.S. Navy ship.

Sorting all of this out may take months and even then, the responsible party may not be identified with certainty.

So, right now, we have no target that we can carpet bomb by B-52's.

However, one thing we can do, right now, is to get control over our borders. Native-born American citizens have a First Amendment right to hate America and publicly proclaim it from every corner. The foeriegn-born are here by the magnanimity of America.

It is time to start getting choosy about who is allowed to move to America or stay here. A one year moratorium on immigration would be a good place to start. During that year, the status of individuals with Green Cards should be reviewed. Those individuals who have engaged in conduct or speach that prove a hatred of America should have their Green Cards revoked and they should be sent back where they came from.

Before anyone says I am anti-immigrant, I will say that I am an immigrant. I am also a retired U.S. Naval officer and, during my years of active duty, I was stationed across an active minefield separating me from my former country and I was fully prepared to go to war with my own former country if the balloon went up.

This is war. As I was typing this post for anothr thread, I saw the collapse of the World Trade Center on live TV. The death toll today can easily exceed that of Pearl Harbor.

Wartime situations require wartime remedies.

124 posted on 09/11/2001 8:44:12 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: A+Bert
Hubby just suggested that we give blood. We're heading to our nearest Red Cross Center (our local hospital no longer has a blood donation center). They are going to need TONS of it folks. If you're feeling as angry, shaken and helpless as I am right now, PLEASE do something POSITIVE!! PRAY for all who were killed and injured, I shudder to think how many were still in those buildings when they went down. And GIVE BLOOD AS SOON AS YOU CAN AND SPREAD THE WORD!!

We were in the middle of a Math lesson with our homeschooled kids when I heard of the first plane. I went to turn on the TV and had the kids come to watch. That's when we saw the video of the second plane(Pray also for those poor folks on the hijacked airliners-How in the WORLD was THAT allowed to happen, anyway?) Then as we were watching, it looked like a building next door exploded and I told my daughter, "The Trade Center just collapsed!" And sure enough, that is what had happened! Then as we watched longer, the second tower came down. Nothing like watching History being made live; I told them this was their homeschooling for the day.

Anyway, we're out the door to give blood; everyone go and do the same!!

125 posted on 09/11/2001 8:44:52 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: CubicleGuy
This is probably just stating the obvious, but these are the acts of people who believe that they are on the receiving end of a great deal of injustice,

Yeah, right.

I'm pretty sure this is going to be middle eastern terrorists. Our reaction is going to be to level every terrorist camp we can find.

Any nation that harbors terrorists are going to be very nervous.

126 posted on 09/11/2001 8:45:09 AM PDT by Crusher138
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To: martin_fierro
Well said...MUD
127 posted on 09/11/2001 8:45:11 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: A+Bert
As a nation, as a people, and as individuals, we need to pray.

God is still sovereign, despite the choices that mankind makes. And He still hears the prayers of His people. Stop and ask for His wisdom for our leaders, our country, our families, yourself and for comfort and peace for those who mourn. And be prepared to answer His call in whatever He asks you to do.

129 posted on 09/11/2001 8:47:11 AM PDT by LoneGreenEyeshade
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To: A+Bert
Even Kalstrom cannot cover this one up.
130 posted on 09/11/2001 8:47:20 AM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Abn1508
Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.
131 posted on 09/11/2001 8:47:22 AM PDT by Valin
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To: A+Bert
Bert, Wall Street is shut down and the World Trade Center financial centers are shut down. Fortunately the Pentagon has underground facilities and we are told by Fox News that the Armed Forces of the U.S. are still being operated. Our airports are shut down. Unknown numbers of Americans are dead. We are vunerable at this moment. Yes, this is war.
132 posted on 09/11/2001 8:48:15 AM PDT by xJones
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To: grammymoon
My heart is broken for those innocents killed, but, This will bring this country together in an instant!

There will always be those 2% that have no loyalties whatsoever and they will always be outcasts wherever & whoever they are

We will survive this as a United country that is mightily pissed and sick and tired of these camel jockeys calling the shots.

This is war. no doubt about it and we will prevail.

God Bless America,
land that I love.
Stand beside her
and guide her through the night with a light from above.

My Flag is flying!

133 posted on 09/11/2001 8:49:22 AM PDT by grammymoon
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To: A+Bert
This is the worst day for this nation since Pearl Harbor. I hope Bush mentions Pearl Harbor when he addresses the nation.
134 posted on 09/11/2001 8:49:56 AM PDT by lasereye
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To: tom paine 2
The first thing we should do is get control of our borders

The second thing is to pass a law that legalizes assasination of people like Bin Laden.

The third thing is to arm our country like Switzerland.

The last thing, after we are all armed, is to hunt down these people and destroy every vestige of their existence, right down to the dust.

Agree on all points. Some additions:

1) Immediate full scale military attack on all known murderous terrorist organizations, with the objective of killing every single terrorist.

2) Follow with investigation to determine what group did this and what nation funded it. Annihilate that organization, then destroy every military target in the host nation. Take over the host nation's government and install a new government.

135 posted on 09/11/2001 8:50:46 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: John Valentine
The feds should identify all known overseas terrorists and kill them all...this would serve as a warning that terrorist organizations around the world, from hereonin, will no longer be allowed to EXIST period.Quadafi, Ben Laden, Arafat, et. al.......KILL THEM ALL !!!!!!
136 posted on 09/11/2001 8:51:09 AM PDT by 1 FELLOW FREEPER
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To: A+Bert, oldglory,seekingthetruth,gonzo,the_doc,lukefreeman,silly
"How to fight.."???

BE GLAD we don't have the feminized male, Algore as president. "His first call would be to Naiomi Wolfe. His second call would be to Erin Brokevich." (That's a quote from Freeper Old-Glory as I spoke to her on the phone just minutes ago).

BE GLAD we have a REAL MAN in the Whitehouse. God be with him!

137 posted on 09/11/2001 8:51:09 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Hey you cowardly terrorists: "DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS or the USA!!!!")
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To: Syene
Just miles from me the other plane went down with 350 people on board.

Where are you and what more can you tell us?

138 posted on 09/11/2001 8:51:18 AM PDT by Publius6961
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To: Southack
We are about to find out what this administration is truly made of. Regardless, I can only thank God that it was not a Gore administration. We need to find out who is responsible, and send a clear message to any country that has harbored this terroist organization that this will not be tolerated in the future. Perhaps a tactical nuclear strike on what ever country is responsible, or has and does harbor these criminals.
140 posted on 09/11/2001 8:52:22 AM PDT by DaiHuy
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