Posted on 10/14/2025 9:29:21 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
“New York has fallen! It’s over, I’m leaving.”
“Real New Yorkers stay and fight. You can’t just pick up and go.”
“It’s only going to get worse, not better.”
“I don’t need this negativity, things are bad enough already.”
Thus went the discussion in my WhatsApp group one recent weekend. After Oct. 7, I was added to a group chat of Jewish artists from around the world whose communities and industries were being overtaken by antisemitic hate. As creative fields quickly became hot spots for demonizing Israel and demanding ideological conformity, this group became a rare place to vent, exchange ideas, collaborate, and, sometimes, to argue.
That weekend’s debate splintered the group in a way I’d never seen before. The topic: Is New York still good for the Jews, or is it time to flee? Several admitted they no longer felt safe. Some had already left town; others were making plans. They spoke of losing jobs, being disinvited from friends’ birthdays, and even being assaulted at a party for wearing a Jewish star necklace. To them, New York had already “fallen.”
On the other side were those whose connection to the city runs stubbornly deep. For them, abandoning the refuge their ancestors found here was unthinkable. As emotions flared, thoughtful debate gave way to arguments about who counts as a “real” New Yorker and whether leaving was prescient or paranoid.
As I observed the back-and-forth, I couldn’t shake one thought: Were these the same conversations our grandparents and great-grandparents had in Europe during the pogroms or in 1930s Germany as fascism rose? Those who left Berlin before the Nazis took power must have seemed alarmist to their friends and family, who looked around at a progressive city where Jews were prominent in film, theater, music, science, and business, much as they are in New York City...
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I live north of NYChitty in Westchester county- our home values went through the roof after 9-11....when ayatollah mamdani is elected, and he will be, it will make what happened after 9-11 look like pocket change...
yes, they were indeed just about the same discussions Jewish (and good Christians!) had in 1930’s Germany when the Nazi party arose there
verily, there is very little genuinely new under the sun
They voted for it to get to this point in the first place. Suck it up and live in it. We don’t want or need their special brand of stupid.
“History doesn’t repeat itself, but it does rhyme.” - Mark Twain..................
I will wait and see what happens in the election.
If they elect this communist Islamist nutcase, then there will be no sympathy............
Everyone including Jews who vote democrat have a part in this guy’s rise. He didn’t come out of nowhere.
these folks are just now finding out exactly what Alan Dershowitz found out a few years ago ...
Boo frickin’ hoo.
For decades, your group of “artists” and their fellow travelers demonized everyone to the right of Susan Collins/Joe Manchin as “Fascists” and “Nazis” while voting for every radical left Commie candidate at all levels of office.
Well, you helped create this Frankenstein Monster and now you’re going to get it good and hard in NYC.
Are you saying if Mamdani gets elected your property values will rise again? Why do you believe that?
Just to clarify, my comment directed at “you” was referring to the author of the piece.
Bkmk
Is it too early to thank Sliwa for extinguishing any hope of defeating the commie by refusing to withdraw?
Because people will flee NYChitty and move north to Westchester or east to Long Island...
I would expect that While the Wall St. Trading floor to remain.
The majority of the trading companies will pack up and move accross to NJ.
if Mamdani is able to do what it seems he wants to, which is to tax “capitalists” out of business. Why would they stay?
Same with a lot more CO’s..
If the financal “anchor stores” relocate very quickly that “mall” is less attractive. And it becomes less attractive, more will leave until it is empty store fronts and For Rent signs.
You have three options when you’re cornered - fight, flee or knuckle under.
My guess is most will either flee or knuckle under.
Were these the same conversations our grandparents and great-grandparents had in Europe during the pogroms or in 1930s Germany as fascism rose?
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My little reading indicates “Yes”.
It’s getting to the bailout point.
I’m not Jewish, but I got your back.
NJ is not really that much better, they would be better off moving to TX. WFH has shown there’s not really a need for large corporate offices anymore.
nope, this is solidly on him. And I’m not sure if he’s doing it on purpose or not
“History doesn’t repeat itself, but it does rhyme.” - Mark Twain..................
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Sometimes history doesn’t repeat itself. Sometimes it picks up a big club and says “Weren’t you listening the first time?”
—Terry Pratchett
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