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Could Trump convince MAGA to support Ukraine?
CNN ^ | Mon July 14, 2025 | Aaron Blake

Posted on 07/15/2025 9:39:17 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican

President Donald Trump made an announcement Monday aligning him more firmly with Ukraine’s defense against Russia’s invasion than ever before.

The US will send weapons to Ukraine through NATO, the president said during a meeting in the Oval Office with NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte. Trump also laid out a new deadline for Russia — threatening trade consequences, including secondary sanctions, if a peace deal isn’t reached in 50 days.

Even before the weapons announcement, which the president had telegraphed last week, the hawks were celebrating.

Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina previewed the announcement Sunday as a “turning point” and added, “The game, regarding [Vladimir] Putin’s invasion of Russia, is about to change.”

Trump’s tougher tactic toward Russia – albeit with a 50-day deadline that’s much more generous than the “two weeks” he floated earlier this summer – follows days of him expressing newfound skepticism of Putin’s intentions, after years of equivocations and a curiously kid-gloves approach to Russia.

But the timing is also far from ideal for Trump, politically speaking. He is already dealing with a backlash from the MAGA base over his administration’s botched handling of files related to Jeffrey Epstein. And the base in recent years has steadily moved away from Ukraine.

It’s too soon to know for sure how this new show of support for Ukraine will play. Will it be like the recent US strikes on Iran, when an initially skeptical MAGA base quickly embraced Trump’s move? Or could it be another mark against Trump with his base?

It’s complicated. It seems quite possible MAGA could again come on board with Trump’s approach, in large numbers – as they often have in similar situations. But some of the skepticism of Ukraine is pretty deep-seated.

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1 posted on 07/15/2025 9:39:17 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

It depends on what you mean by “support”.

Humanitarian aid?
Yes.

Defensive weapons?
Maybe.

Offensive weapons?
No.


2 posted on 07/15/2025 9:41:07 AM PDT by Westbrook (democRATs are wizards at two things: Finding votes and losing evidence.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Wrong question:


3 posted on 07/15/2025 9:42:09 AM PDT by central_va (The I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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I think most Americans favor an independent, democratic Ukraine.

Such an independent, democratic Ukraine will need to not be a fundamental threat to Russia, or the Russians will seek to topple it.

That means:
1. neutrality
2. no NATO membership
3. no long-range missiles
4. no nuclear weapons or nuclear weapons development
5. no foreign troops in areas Ukraine is to retain or reacquire
6. Ukraine to have unlimited defensive means (troops, tanks, artillery, anti-tank missiles, anti-aircraft missiles, anti-ballistic missile missiles) so Ukraine can defend itself and clause 5 is possible.


4 posted on 07/15/2025 9:42:16 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: MinorityRepublican

No.


5 posted on 07/15/2025 9:42:30 AM PDT by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: MinorityRepublican

No. Our intelligence agencies got them hooked on USAID kinda crap, and no repay loans. A horribly corrupt place.


6 posted on 07/15/2025 9:42:30 AM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) "Diggin the scene with a gangster lean" (Mayfield, Curtis) )
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To: Westbrook

You nailed it. We are already at those 3 points and we are not moving.


7 posted on 07/15/2025 9:42:31 AM PDT by gibsonguy ( )
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To: MinorityRepublican

I want nothing to do with Ukraine. That’s not going to change.


8 posted on 07/15/2025 9:42:32 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (When the night falls, it falls on me. And when the day breaks, I'm in pieces.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

No.


9 posted on 07/15/2025 9:42:37 AM PDT by Jemian (It is great to be an Auburn Tiger! War Eagle!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

MAGA is normal America.


10 posted on 07/15/2025 9:43:37 AM PDT by central_va (The I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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Could Trump convince MAGA to support Ukraine?

Sure, all he'd have to do is round up all the Prog Marxist Democrats and their kids, and send 'em the the Front in Ukraine.

11 posted on 07/15/2025 9:44:28 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (President Trump Decisively Won Popular & E.C., Celebrate Recivilization!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

NO!


12 posted on 07/15/2025 9:45:22 AM PDT by Dacula (I went to the paint store to get thinner... It didn't work.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Trump should disregard the “Russian faction” of his base and press ahead with what is right and moral.


13 posted on 07/15/2025 9:48:45 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: MinorityRepublican

Nah, I’m good.


14 posted on 07/15/2025 9:49:06 AM PDT by yuleeyahoo (“Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!” - the deep-state)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Actually, I do not see why we can’t just let duke it out without any interferrence, mediation, or assistance from us at all. Yes, they are killing each other. But, that doesn’t mean we have to be at all involved in any way.


15 posted on 07/15/2025 9:49:50 AM PDT by Jemian (It is great to be an Auburn Tiger! War Eagle!)
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The Russians should be asked to type up a complete long-term peace proposal.

The Ukrainians should be asked to type up a complete long-term peace proposal.

Attempts should then be made to piece together a deal, both by the parties involved, and by a United Nations committee, the Vatican, the US, Hungary, Turkey and maybe even Mexico.

There have been X peace proposals pieced together, please rank them, Ukraine and Russia.

The one with the highest combined score will then become the basis for discussion.


16 posted on 07/15/2025 9:50:32 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: MinorityRepublican

No


17 posted on 07/15/2025 9:50:55 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: MinorityRepublican

Not my monkeys therefore not my circus.

PS.... CNN sux.


18 posted on 07/15/2025 9:50:59 AM PDT by LastDayz (A Blunt and Brazen Texan. I Will Not Be Assimilated.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Who’s this guy named MAGA? Why does Trump have to convince him of anything?


19 posted on 07/15/2025 9:51:38 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Many things seem to be flipping lately. Epstein files closure, something huge separating Musk and Trump, Ukraine support? Stuff .....

Watching and waiting ......


20 posted on 07/15/2025 9:51:40 AM PDT by Whatever Works (The real power lies in who counts the votes and controls the teleprompter.)
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