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Obama fixed healthcare so well that Americans borrowed $74 BILLION last year to receive medical care ... and that's not all
notthebee ^ | 03/07/2025 | Dr. Jones

Posted on 03/07/2025 9:39:09 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27

Rest easy, everyone β€” Obamacare has completely taken care of the American health care system. It's done. It's completely fixed.

In fact, it's so fixed that Americans had to borrow $74 billion last year to get the medical care they needed.

From CBS News:

Health care is so expensive that 31 million U.S. adults, or 12%, had to borrow a total of $74 billion last year to obtain medical care, new data shows. That includes people with health insurance, making such numbers even more troubling. Yes, even health insurance isn't enough to keep people from going into debt.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: americans; billion; borrowed; care; debt; fixed; healthcare; insurance; last; medical; obama; obamacare; well; year
I wish I could walk into a DR's office and see prices on a board.
1 posted on 03/07/2025 9:39:09 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I still despise John McCain. spit


2 posted on 03/07/2025 9:58:41 AM PST by sheana
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To: ChicagoConservative27

It’s just a tax (typed in my best John Roberts voice)


3 posted on 03/07/2025 9:59:33 AM PST by Tell It Right (1 Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
That would be almost impossible.

I was indirectly involved in medical billing for several years, and even 8 years ago (when I left my last real job) medical billing was so complicated, it felt like the real need in this country is to have all of the people who used to be rocket scientists get into medical billing because it takes a rocket scientist-level intellect to fully understand it all.

The complexity seems to have started with the introduction of Medicare back in the late 1960's. Since then, the use of computers has increased the ability to make it even more complicated. Add increased regulation, and we have passed the point of difficult return, if not no return.

"I'm from the government, and I'm here to help. If you can understand that EOB you just got in the mail, let me add a few pages. Just pay the amount in the little box."

4 posted on 03/07/2025 10:01:15 AM PST by Bernard (Issue an annual budget. And Issue a federal government balance sheet. Let's see what we got.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

And, “thanks to Obama” our healthcare now stinks!
Before Obamacare, you could get appointment within days, now it is like half a year!
Surgery? Long waiting list!
I know people with cancers and heart conditions waiting for a procedure and sometimes dying, while waiting!
Get appointment with neurologists - good luck with it!

Basically the same as in Europe!
We used to laugh on Europeans and Canadians for their long waiting lists.
Not any more! Obama (and McCain) took care about that!


5 posted on 03/07/2025 10:06:21 AM PST by AZJeep
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To: ChicagoConservative27

People have short memories. Health care in America was better and cheaper before Obama “fixed” it. But it seems no one talks about that. They just imply that additional federal intervention (more like the UK) could maybe “fix it” better.


6 posted on 03/07/2025 10:06:51 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Its impossible to immediately fix America’s hairball of government run, government regulated, 3rd-party, cost-shifting health care

The answer is: Allow that bloated and corrupt system to continue, while a new completely voluntary and free-market system is encouraged to develop.

It could take the form of health-care “free trade zones” where clinics perhaps may be taxed at lower rates, be immune from excessive liability and insurance, only cash will be accepted, government payments not excepted and medicare payment schedules not referenced. FDA rules do not apply. Even put them on Indian Reservations, so users can claim its ‘sovereign territory’ free from state interference. There’s got to be many more ideas out there.

Yes, there are private clinics now in the USA, but they are fewer and fewer and only are available to the super-rich.

This needs to change.


7 posted on 03/07/2025 10:11:18 AM PST by PGR88
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To: AZJeep

That Obamacare business looked like a bad deal from the start. I didn’t realize until fairly lately that we were still struggling with that mess. That should have been dropped even before the lkast election.


8 posted on 03/07/2025 10:28:43 AM PST by oldtech
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To: ChicagoConservative27
even health insurance isn't enough to keep people from going into debt.

The price of the premiums is part of why they're going into debt.

9 posted on 03/07/2025 10:51:29 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (The greatest wealth is to live content with little. -Plato)
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To: Tell It Right

That’s just the way Kenyan’s do things.


10 posted on 03/07/2025 10:53:12 AM PST by chopperk (airhig)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
even health insurance isn't enough to keep people from going into debt.

It's precisely because of health insurance that people have to go into debt. Our bloated system has made it to where for every doctor/patient interaction there are about 40 people interjected into the transaction who have to be paid and are all skimming money off of it. Health insurance companies provide absolutely no patient care but the bureaucracy takes about 90% of the money spent on it.

11 posted on 03/07/2025 11:05:13 AM PST by GaryCrow
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12 posted on 03/07/2025 1:14:25 PM PST by lowbridge ("Let’s check with Senator Schumer before we run it" - NY Times)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

no insurance, been going to the same doctors office 40 years, on my second doctor there. I pay an office visit of $150 for almost everything, sometimes more depending on what it is, 12 stitches was $500 total


13 posted on 03/07/2025 1:20:47 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: GaryCrow

There’s no competition for medical care. It is cheaper to get a nose job or teeth implants than to fix a broken arm because those two elective services have competitive markets.


14 posted on 03/07/2025 2:33:01 PM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

FEMA 750 dollars. Paid in full. πŸ‘€


15 posted on 03/07/2025 2:43:56 PM PST by Varsity Flight ( "War by πŸ™ the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18. Nazarite warriors. 10.5.6.5 These Days)
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“I wish I could walk into a DR’s office and see prices on a board.”

It would be nice to be able to know beforehand what medical care would cost, but some courses of treatment are too complicated to be fully predictable.


16 posted on 03/07/2025 6:08:45 PM PST by powerset
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Health care in America was better and cheaper before Obama ‘fixed’ it.”

A lot of the increased cost of medical care is due, of course, to excessive government regulation. But some is because people are living longer due to improvements in medical science and technology. Thus they need medical care for more years. (Also, some of the medical technology is rather expensive — computers may be “dirt cheap” these days, but MRI machines aren’t.)

Remember that Social Security has gotten a lot more expensive over the years mainly because people these days usually live well past 65, unlike when SS was started.


17 posted on 03/07/2025 6:09:57 PM PST by powerset
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To: ChicagoConservative27

I remember talking to a co-worker when this was passed. His healthcare with obamacare was now $9,000 more per year.


18 posted on 03/08/2025 2:31:46 AM PST by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: powerset
It would be nice to be able to know beforehand what medical care would cost, but some courses of treatment are too complicated to be fully predictable.

True, but what percentage of medical care is basic procedures that have an easily-predicable cost structure? 50%? 90%? You can have an asterisk for major complications or non-regular operations, but regular checkups, minor coughs, nausea/fever, sprains, simple broken bones, all should be pretty consistent in their cost of treatment. Easy to determine and reduce admin costs, allowing for reduced charges.
19 posted on 03/09/2025 11:34:29 AM PDT by Svartalfiar (-)
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