Posted on 08/20/2024 5:47:01 PM PDT by OneVike
It's been a little over 2 years since the Supreme Court sent abortion back to the states, and now I'm even more convinced the SC was wrong in their ruling. Yes, after 2 years we see state after state allowing voters to decide if it should be allowed. In every state controlled by Democrats, abortion has been legalized to the extreme, while states controlled by Republicans either tempered it down or outright outlawed the procedure. The states that allow for ballot measures, the citizens have been voting to allow abortion at some level. What have we learned? well, the hearts of Americans have become as evil as the ancients who sacrificed their children to the Canaanite god Moloch.
I feared this would be the case, because men's hearts are forever evil, and whether it be gambling, prostitution, or abortion humans will always chose evil over good. This is why the Supreme Court was wrong in sending abortion to the States. Mark my word, unless the Supreme ruled the surgical procedure of gender realignment, then one day the people will vote for ballot measures legalizing it for children. I guess that is for another day though. Today I want to explain why I believe abortion should have been ruled unconstitutional. That's right, I am not a fan of the way the Supreme Court abdicated their authority on the issue of abortion. Before I get to the nuts and bolts of why I believe the decision was wrong, I will admit that I am pro-life, and have been for well over 50 years.
Long before I became a Christian I have looked at abortion as an act of cold blooded murder, and while the argument for abortion has taken on many forms of excuses by the pro-choice crowd, there is inly one reason an abortion should ever be performed. That case is if the fetus is already dead. Otherwise, not even if the mothers life is in danger should a baby be murdered. Throughout history adults have always understood that their child's life is more important than their own. Any other choice is just a selfish non-sacrificial stance. The only instance I would agree for an abortion is, as I stated, if the child in the womb is already dead.
As for rape or incest, well I am the product of a rape, so I will not even respond to anyone who claims that as a man I have no right to an opinion. See, I have every right to my opinion because if, when I was conceived in 1956, abortion was as legal and prevalent as it is today, I never would have been born. I was the youngest of 8 children who's father was such a loser he went to prison when I was 7, and welfare as we know it did not exist. We were so poor, I remember a black woman coming over to our house offering food and support for my mother who struggled nightly.
Now as for the Supreme Court sending abortion to the States, I would like to know why they so conveniently ignored the Constitution which is very explicit in it's defense of innocent life. After all, if life is not a Constitutional matter, then nothing is. Let me begin by sharing the famous portion from the preamble of the Declaration of Independence. Mind you, this is the Declaration used to challenge King George's authority by claiming we the people have rights given to us by GOD, and no government, not even his Monarchy, has a right to deny us. The key to my belief is highlighted in bold.
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”
Yet even with this statement, we still needed to reiterate what the Founding Fathers already agreed upon, because too many were not allowed to enjoy these freedoms we went to war with King George over. So throughout our history we have amended our constitution to codify those rights, and one was the 14th Amendment. Which I will also use to buttress my stance on abortion as a constitutional matter, because abortion inhibits the ability for the most innocent of life to not only enjoy Life, but also inhibits their right to enjoy Liberty and Happiness they would have had if they were able to be born as you and I were. On July 9, 1886, the 14th Amendment was ratified, and in Section 1 of the Amendment the following statement exists. Again I highlighted in bold my Constitutional defense for the life of the unborn child.
“No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
So we have the US Constitution defending life, and the Amendment that forces the States to defend life. While the amendment does talk about due process, this has to do with legalities one may have violated which could lead to them losing their right to liberty. Yet, I want someone tell me what Federal or State law has any unborn child ever violated that allows anyone to deny them their right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness? Thus, for the US Supreme Court to claim abortion is a matter of States rights is absurd! The Court needs to stop abdicating their power and rule on the merit of the Constitutionality of Abortion as in how it pertains to the Constitutions claim that all have a right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, and stop playing word games at the expense of tens of millions of unborn children. An unborn child is a life with a heart beat that needs to be protected, and not treated like toilet tissue.
Before I continue, I must address the argument many pro-choice supporters use while responding to Christians who use the Bible to argue against abortion. Their argument is that even GOD allows abortion because HE called for the killing of children, babies, and even pregnant women at times in the Old Testament. Yet when we go back and read of the times they refer to, we must start when GOD made HIS covenant with Abraham. At that time, GOD told him that his descendants would inherit the land after many years in bondage, and after the iniquity of the lands was complete.
“Then He said to Abram: "Know certainly that your descendants will be strangers in a land that is not theirs, and will serve them, and they will afflict them four hundred years. And also the nation whom they serve I will judge; afterward they shall come out with great possessions. Now as for you, you shall go to your fathers in peace; you shall be buried at a good old age. But in the fourth generation they shall return here, for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete."
(Genesis 15:13-16)
After the iniquity of the Amorites, refereed to the when the people would have become so corrupt that they had to be destroyed. The Canaanite culture and religion at the time had become so polluted, corrupt, and perverted there was no hope of recovery. Their society included bestiality, mass sex orgies, rampant homosexuality to the point that most were physically diseased from their illicit behavior. There simply was no viable solution to their condition except destruction. Even many animals had become so infected with their perversity, that their existence on this Earth had to be terminated. Just like in Noah’s day when God waited 120 years while Noah preached to the people. Yet he was unable to turn even one soul outside his family back to GOD. Matthew Henry explained this passage, as it also explains other times GOD's wrath was felt by evil societies.
"The measure of sin fills gradually. Those that continue impenitent in wicked ways are treasuring up unto themselves wrath. Some people's measure of sin fills slowly. The Sodomites, who were sinners before the Lord exceedingly, soon filled their measure; so did the Jews, who were, in profession, near to GOD. But the iniquity of the Amorites was long in the filling. That this is the reason of the prosperity of wicked people; the measure of their sins is not yet full. The wicked live, become old, and are mighty in power, while GOD is laying up their iniquity for their children,"
(Matthew Henry)
As for the children, whom GOD ordered Joshua to kill while conquering the promised land, you must realize that in reality GOD was saving them from living in the type misery their societies would subject them to. It is better they died when they are too young to know right from wrong, than to wait until their hearts and souls are so corrupted with evil that they too would be condemned to hell like their parents were. Yes, for some children, GOD may decide it is better for them to die at a young age and enter Heaven, than to grow up and be corrupted. When it comes some difficult passages in the Scriptures, one must understand that God is more interested in the eternal existence of our souls than HE is about our physical life in the World.
I understand I will get much feedback, and some questions about things I may have left out. Yet I am prepared to respond to anything anyone wishes to ask me. For many, I will come off very cold when it comes to why I do not even believe in abortion for the life of the mother.
I originally planned to write this commentary on abortion and birth control, but when I realized my take on abortion was already over 1600 words, I decided to just tackle the abortion issue. Keep an eye out though, because I will be working on a commentary for my take on birth control next. Now while I believe abortion should be illegal for anyone, regardless of their faith or lack of in GOD, my take on birth control will be specifically come from a Christian Biblical point of view.
You make it a point to bring it up over and over.
That means it's an issue for you.
The sad part is they will be able to kill the delivered child because of physical defect including mixed race or wrong sex (Opps. wrong sex organ). I had to restate the last one because they won’t know the sex until the child is old enough to declare. /s
At the level of being humans (given our track record), ultimately the mother and midwives decide.
Pray for themm to make the right decision.
Many babies have been “put to sleep” because the mother and midwives decided that the baby could not survive.
That has been a fact of our human life, for many thousands of years.
On the other hand, abortion for convenience, and abortion that is “a contraceptive(?!),” and abortion that is homicide for the purpose of “empowering women”/”Girl Power!” . . . are all: the wrong decision.
IMHO
Not an intelligent comment. The Constitution specifically puts the President in charge of the military. So its not analogous.
But thanks for trying!
That is a stupid comment
If I was put up for adoption then I I may have been raised in a home that was pro choice.
One thing I can say is years later I know my mom loved me even if I was a product of a rape.
I thank God was can use my life as proof that abortion is evil.
Your remark is borderline evil in and of it self.
I guess if I was screaming in the street defending abortion because my mom was raped and claiming I did not want to be raised born nor by a women whose husband went to prison you would then think I was normal????
Do you say that to everyone who is pro life and strong minded in stating it is evil????
Only because of your original comment
LOL, great popint
Actually, if I were a legislator, I would vote to ban abortion, except perhaps in the cases of rape, incest and endangerment of the mother, as long as those exceptions were drawn to apply only to such cases. And I would do everything in my power to convince my daughters and daughters in law to not get an abortion if that had ever become an issue.
It’s not a question of my beliefs. Its based on the historical fact that the framers did not provide for the constitution to regulate abortion. The law has to be that way, or its not really law.
3 God given human rights predate the Constitution;
Life
Liberty
The pursuit of happiness
I concur. Another reason I support adoption instead of abortion.
Don’t deprive the child of life for your poor life choices.
Abortion was never covered in the Constitution, so generally those types of issues were given to the states or local control. Obviously, it was never intended to be in federal control, so what’s the issue?
The founding fathers didn’t, because it was considered so hideous that they figured it would never get to where it is 2050 years later.
We were a much more Religious minded society.
Don’t try and say they approved of it because they didn’t mention it. That is like saying Jesus approved because He never mentioned it and nowhere in the New testament is it mentioned.
Stupid response. Sorry, but that is a lame response I hear form leftists all the time.
People were not as acceptable, and in many cases the women who did were imprisoned for it. It was a very, very, very rare thing when it did happen. And usually no one admitted it for fear of being charged killing their own child.
Yes, they considered a baby in the womb as much a child as their living children were. That is why they buried them and put up head stones.
It is and always has been considered a baby even in the womb until the 1970s after Roe vs Wade.
Being illegal to murder wasn’t in the constitution neither, but every one knew the constitution covered ones right to be protected from murder
She need never have told you yet she did.
She was attacking her rapist in telling you about the rape.
And you can't see it because you love your mother and she wouldn't harm you, as you see it.
Roe was an illegal decision by SCOTUS because it created a new right, i.e., the Right to Privacy, which SCOTUS did not have the authority to create.
That power lies absolutely, without ANY question, with the legislative branch of government on Capitol Hill.
The political left wanted abortion rights, but knew that there was no chance it would pass congress in 1973.
There was no support for such an amendment to the Constitution by sending it to the states, even if it somehow passed congress, which the left knew it never would.
So the left did an end run around the Constitution by having a ruling from SCOTUS, and pretending it was law, which it ABSOLUTELY WAS NOT.
When was the last time SCOTUS DECLARED WAR on another country?
Answer is never, because they don’t have that authority.
Roe was the same as if SCOTUS decided to declare war, or raise taxes, or negotiate a treaty with a foreign government.
It was in every sense an illegal decision that cost the lives of more than 60 million American lives.
This is ten times the number of people Hitler murdered, yet the American political left pretends that this is all perfectly normal.
The people who did this, and currently support Roe are on their way to hell, which they richly deserve.
What the hell are you talking about???
I thought I agreed with you....
You've got issues, mister.
Have you ever heard of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments?
I have.
Amendment VNo person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
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Amendment XIV
Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Section 2.
Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each state, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the executive and judicial officers of a state, or the members of the legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such state, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such state.
Section 3.
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
Section 4.
The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any state shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.
Section 5.
The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
As originally ratified and made part of the Constitution, neither the 5th Amendment, nor any part of the Bill of Rights, was enforceable against the States. Today, only such parts as have been incorporated by the Supreme Court against the States are enforceable against the States.
The 14th Amendment provided that "The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article." The Amendment is not self-enforcing, but the provisions may be enforced by appropriate legislation.
As one example of a provision of the 5th Amendment which has never been incorporated against the States, take the provision which mandates, "No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury...." The States routinely bring indictments upon an information without a grand jury.
There is no provision prohibiting abortion. For the sake of argument I will presume you are making a mumbo jumbo argument about "nor be deprived of life." Putting that in the context of the 5th Amendment, "No person shall...."
Now, let's look at Section 2 of Amendment 14: "Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each state, excluding Indians not taxed."
In no case in the history of the United States census has a fetus been counted as a person. No fetus has ever been enumerated in the census. It is quite impossible to maintain an argument that the Constitution recognizes a fetus as a person.
Amendment 14 amended Article 1, Section 2 which stated, "Representatives and direct taxes shall be apportioned among the several states which may be included within this union, according to their respective numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole number of free persons, including those bound to service for a term of years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. The actual Enumeration shall be made within three years after the first meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent term of ten years, in such manner as they shall by law direct."
The census is an enumeration of persons and has never included a fetus.
The Congress has never passed legislation to enforce the abortion prohibition of the 5th Amendment, be it real or imaginary. The Supreme Court has never incorporated the abortion clause against the States, be it real or imaginary.
The Supreme Court made the correct decision in finding that there is no Federal jurisdiction over abortion. They correctly shitcanned the previous chicanery, "specific guarantees in the Bill of Rights have penumbras, formed by emanations from those guarantees that help give them life and substance."
It is perfectly normal for sovereign states to exercise their sovereignty. We did not adopt a national government, nor have we ever held a national referendum on anything. The Federal government should not exercise jurisdiction over everything.
if A majority of the states deem the life of a child to be amendment worthy, then it will be a federal issue.
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