Posted on 07/15/2024 4:37:14 AM PDT by xzins
Democrat Senator Kamala Harris (CA) could be in for an unwelcome campaign surprise if she faces a constitutional eligibility challenge to her bid for the presidency.
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No. She was born to two parents who were citizens of foreign countries. This is clarified with children of diplomats and diplomatic staff.
A child of a Hessian soldier fighting colonists would not be considered a natural born citizen because of a map and a compass.
>>No. She was born to two parents who were citizens of foreign countries. This is clarified with children of diplomats and diplomatic staff.
A child of a Hessian soldier fighting colonists would not be considered a natural born citizen because of a map and a compass.
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A map, a compass, and a court. Diplomats are not within US jurisdiction.
A Hessian soldier with no diplomatic immunity is within that jurisdiction — though if fighting colonists there is no US at all at that time and the whole question is moot.
The child born to the Hessian is as much an NBC as would be any other child born when there was no US yet in existence.
It is bizarre this argument persists on FR. If you’re born on US soil to parents who do not have diplomatic immunity, you are born within US jurisdiction on US soil and there is no further discussion warranted.
If the parents are residents of Mars, it does not matter — provided they did not submit Martian diplomatic credentials exempting themselves from US jurisdiction. It does not matter. The child is not responsible for any crimes the parents committed.
Born on US soil in US jurisdiction — Natural Born Citizen.
Subject to is very important wording.
If Kamala Harris's parents returned to India or Jamaica when she was a child, there was nothing the United States could do to stop them because they were not citizens of the United States.
A Natural Born Citizen is someone born in the United States to two parents who are United States Citizens - which is why Obama's handlers created the fake birth certificate.
I think you might be a bit to biased th treat this logically. However, let me remind you that it’s a huge portion of the DEMOCRAT Party that is looking for a way to dump kamala. They own the justice department. They own the judges in DC, NY, etc.
This could be easily argued by the anti-kamala faction.
Obama’s eligibility was ignored, while they looked into McCain being born in Panama. For some reason McCain was less of a US citizen than Obama. Look! Over there! Squirrel!
It has nothing to do with parents going elsewhere at a later date. The parents could be US citizens who up and leave the country after the birth of a child. It’s totally irrelevant to the child.
The child is not responsible for what parents do after it is born. The only delineator is US jurisdiction at moment of birth. Diplomats are immune and the US has no jurisdiction over them or their children.
Born on US soil and within US jurisdiction and NBC. The debate is without any merit at all outside those two specific parameters.
Agree
I don’t think they’ll try to go with her because Juan Osavin says there’s a literal army of attorneys waiting in the wings to challenge it. She’s definitely not eligible. Just because Omuslim squeaked by doesn’t mean we’re going to make a habit of it.
Again, born on U.S. soil to two U.S. citizen parents.
Kamala Harris's parents simply were not U.S. citizens when she was born.
Neither were both of Obama's, hence the need to generate a fake birth certificate and steal a social security number. Even the Democrats know the law.
“many democrats now need a means of removing her”
They showed their favorite tactic for removing candidates last week.
No, it doesn't.
You can't serve as VEEP unless you're also qualified to serve as POTUS. It's a rule. So the fact that she is sitting VEEP qualifies her to serve as POTUS. Period. Full stop.
when harris ran for VP she had it posted on her web site and then removed it.
False, Vattel’s defintion is from continental Europe.
The American definition of Natural Born Citizen derives from the Common Law of England definition of Natural Born Subject which is part of the law of every state at the founding. At the founding, the term subject in the common law became citizen. A Natural Born Subject/Citizen is defines by Blackstone as:
“Natural-born subjects are such as are born within the dominions of the crown of England, that is, within the ligeance, or as it is generally called, the allegiance of the king; and aliens, such as are born out of it. Allegiance is the tie, or ligamen, which binds the subject to the king, in return for that protection which the king affords the subject.”
The 14th Amendment confirmed this in the Constitution.
https://lonang.com/library/reference/blackstone-commentaries-law-england/bla-110/
Neither was Barry Hussein Soetoro , aka Obama.
So we have been misled by the Courts for over 100 years. But it isn't factually true.
A clue is in the very word "Citizen."
The word, and the manner in which we use it comes from Switzerland. England had "Subjects." They didn't have "citizens."
And here this loon comes out of the woodwork once again to proclaim "Courts Uber Alles!!"
The Courts are ignorant, and people are fools to simply accept what they say.
Also, Wong Kim Ark never declared Wong to be a "natural born citizen." He is a 14th amendment citizen, which by the very debates in congress on the matter clarify is naturalization.
14th amendment citizens are naturalized at birth. They are not natural citizens.
based on the letter between washington and jay I believe the founders did not want a person with foreign parents to be commander in chief.
sorry
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but
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It is bizarre that after so *MANY* discussions of this topic on Free Republic, that there are still those of us who don't understand that 14th amendment citizenship is not *NATURAL* citizenship. It is in fact a "naturalization."
Don't believe me? Read the actual debates on the 14th amendment. The people trying to pass it through congress *TELL YOU* that it is a "naturalization" process.
They were trying to give citizenship to freed slaves who were already born here. They wouldn't have to give it if it were already natural.
Giving citizenship to non-citizens is naturalization.
The 14th amendment did not re-write "natural born citizen." It created a new naturalization process. That's it. That's all.
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