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'A fundamental security failure': How did a gunman open fire on a Trump rally?
NBC News ^ | July 14, 2024 | Jon Schuppe, Janelle Griffith, Rich Schapiro and Dasha Burns

Posted on 07/14/2024 6:26:30 AM PDT by DoodleBob

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To: Uncle Miltie

Yeah, I knew it wouldn’t take them long to try to turn this into a gun-control issue instead of an assassination attempt.


81 posted on 07/14/2024 7:16:08 AM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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To: DoodleBob
Cavanaugh added: “Having been on Secret Service details, it’s amazing to me that somebody was on an elevated position that they didn’t know about.”

I'm just going to come out and say that they DID know about it. We're maybe even complicit. I will believe this unless proof is presented otherwise.

82 posted on 07/14/2024 7:17:01 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (Trump Triumphant !)
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To: DoodleBob

I don’t believe this was accidental. It’s to obvious for anyone with experience with high security event planning training.


83 posted on 07/14/2024 7:21:33 AM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Praise Hashem, for his restoration of all things! )
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To: pfflier

Yes you are correct. It is all a cluster F...


84 posted on 07/14/2024 7:23:27 AM PDT by DAVEY CROCKETT (Ec 1:2 The rest is, Vanity of vanities..vanity of vanities!All is vanity.)
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To: BobL

“It would be VERY NICE if the media would start pointing out at least some of the calls for VIOLENCE against Trump and other Republicans”

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The media doesn’t want to talk about this because they too share responsibility for instigating this kind of tragic event with their vicious and relentless attacks against Trump.


85 posted on 07/14/2024 7:24:11 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: DoodleBob

DELIBERATE SETUP


86 posted on 07/14/2024 7:24:48 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: WhattheDickens?
"There was only one elevated position, there’s no way this was not intentional"

I agree- one thing intentional about this was the assassin getting about five rounds off before the "Jack Ruby" SS sniper took out the patsy antifa shooter.

87 posted on 07/14/2024 7:24:49 AM PDT by matthew fuller (The biden crime family: Cheap fake for the last 53 1/2 years...)
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To: Z28.310

It was Saturday so the business was likely closed and nobody around.


88 posted on 07/14/2024 7:25:00 AM PDT by 38special (The government is ruining our country!)
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To: hole_n_one

Good point- there is no way this side of hell that he should have been able to so casually and carelessly get that close with a rifle. And also, he was able to get off shots AFTER people were reporting g that he was on the roof. The cops shou.d have immediately informed ss of the man and his location, and ss should have immediately surrounded Trump onstage BEFORE the shots were fired, while ss figured out what was going on.

At the very least, the absolute least, so eone should have yelled to President Trump, or spoke into an earpiece he was no doubt wearing, that there was a possible shooter on a roof, and to take precautions immediately while they figured out if it was true or not.

This was a colossal failure- the only question remaining g is “was it an intentional failure”?


89 posted on 07/14/2024 7:25:24 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: DoodleBob

This was not a security failure. A layman on the street would know to put a Secret Service asset on that roof. This was clearly a Deep State assassination attempt.


90 posted on 07/14/2024 7:25:31 AM PDT by Lazamataz (joesbucks is back. Let's remedy that! 😁)
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To: vortigern

Especially since there were so few roofs in the immediate area- the fai,ure to do so is inexcusable


91 posted on 07/14/2024 7:27:19 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: DoodleBob

“Security experts said it was difficult, and perhaps impossible, to eliminate every threat, particularly with long-range weapons and outdoor events.”

That’s true, but to NOT have men stationed on every roof within 200 yards of where the president will be speaking is gross and utterly ridiculous negligence. Every rooftop should have been secured, locked down, and guarded for the two days in advance of the president’s arrival up to his departure.


92 posted on 07/14/2024 7:27:25 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward Snowden)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Not surprising. It’s like Oct. 7 in Israel. Government asleep at the switch. People have lapses in their vigilance and government workers are too organizational and relaxed.

Doesn't pass the smell test. I'm not a security professional and even *I* know you don't leave a roof available to a shooter when the distance to the target is approximately 150 yards.

93 posted on 07/14/2024 7:27:47 AM PDT by Lazamataz (joesbucks is back. Let's remedy that! 😁)
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To: WhattheDickens?
There was only one elevated position, there’s no way this was not intentional

There is one other way. That being that the SS have gone down the same rabbit hole of fecklessness that much of the rest of the government has.

That said, it seems very odd to me that a 20 year old with no military experience scouted this out himself and knew just where he'd be able to climb onto a rooftop while having cover between two buildings, and that this would give him a clean line of sight at President Trump.

94 posted on 07/14/2024 7:27:55 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: bert

I would argue by fractions of an inch. This is America after all.


95 posted on 07/14/2024 7:27:58 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. )
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To: DoodleBob

“Kevin Rojek, special agent in charge of the FBI’s Pittsburgh Field Office, said at a news conference that law enforcement was not aware of the man’s presence on the rooftop until he started firing.”

The counter-sniper had the perp in his sights when the shooting started. According to the video, the counter-sniper flinched for a second and then returned fire without sighting in on the perp. They knew he was there.


96 posted on 07/14/2024 7:28:31 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: batazoid

I think most Americans would be shocked at how mediocre the people in these government agencies have become.


97 posted on 07/14/2024 7:30:37 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (“Ain't it funny how the night moves … when you just don't seem to have as much to lose.”)
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To: batazoid

He didn’t miss. Trump turned his head at the exact right time. God is watching over him I’d say.


98 posted on 07/14/2024 7:31:06 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Biblebelter

So a would be assassin wanders around with a rifle looking for an unsecured vantage point and manages to find the most obvious point totally unsecured climbs up on it in plain sight and gets a number of shots off.


99 posted on 07/14/2024 7:32:05 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: batazoid

I agree. Watching the video of the SS, why did they have the target already acquired and they were ready to shoot, but paused. They KNEW the guy was there and had acquired the target.


100 posted on 07/14/2024 7:32:33 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“When exposing a crime is treated like a crime, you are being ruled by criminals” – Edward Snowden)
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