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Video Shows U.S Secret Service Spotting and Watching Shooter Prior to Shots – Doing Nothing, Then Flinching with Inbound Bullets
https://theconservativetreehouse.com ^ | 7/13/2024 | sundance

Posted on 07/13/2024 9:31:05 PM PDT by bitt

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To: Calvin Cooledge

Yer insane. 😆


81 posted on 07/13/2024 11:35:22 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: bitt

Erik Prince would likely take over till inauguration on the house if campaign provides adequate transport

Trump has to be very careful

No more outdooor events prolly


82 posted on 07/13/2024 11:43:51 PM PDT by wardaddy (Biden versus Trump boy after 60 or so it sure goes fast for some and not others not so much)
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To: HIDEK6

Yes, you’re right. That is a more telling question.

There had to be some communication at some point. And that would totally take out the possibility of mere incompetence.


83 posted on 07/13/2024 11:44:39 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Calvin Cooledge

I disagree

A person on a roof with a rifle at a campaign event who’s not one of them

Is hot target for security
Jesus Calvin


84 posted on 07/13/2024 11:46:01 PM PDT by wardaddy (Biden versus Trump boy after 60 or so it sure goes fast for some and not others not so much)
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To: Calvin Cooledge; oldernittany
Dumbest post ever

I second that (or, by now, I guess that I am fifty-seconding that).

Regards,

85 posted on 07/14/2024 12:11:21 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: packagingguy

My son bought a silencer for his .300 “Blackout” rifle. A shorter round but as far as I can tell similar to a .223 AR-15 round.

When he fired it the first time I was a few feet to the side and behind him. It sounded like an air-rifle. He looks at it, then me - “Was that a dud?”

I was surprised at how quiet it was.

Also, I think the sniper kneeling in the foreground is primarily the “spotter”, and the guy a few feet farther away in the prone position is the primary sniper.

I’m no expert, but from what I can tell they did what they could. The shooter was on the far side of the building, hiding behind the ridge line. The one witness said that he was trying to get the SS attention, but said they could probably not see him.

So shooter pokes his head up. Maybe a second later the SS guy sees him. But by then the shooter has already shot. The prone sniper may have got him. It looked like the sniper that was kneeling was looking through the scope. Heard shots and had to look up to see where the shooter was and then reposition his rifle to aim before he fired a shot. Maybe the kneeling guy was focused on one of the other roofs. There was a taller building to the left of the shooter and farther away - it appears that MAY have been what the kneeling sniper was focused on through his scope.

I went to Google Earth and looked at the road views of the AGR facility in Butler, PA. No obvious means of getting on top of those roofs that I could see.


86 posted on 07/14/2024 12:33:22 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: gleeaikin
There was an interview of a man that was in the crowd a few yards away from the man that was killed. He said they were in the bleachers behind President Trump and on the stage right side. He wasn't sure, but he thought the shots came from stage right (he was correct). So the man shot was standing between Trump and the shooter. I have no idea the angles, so the shot that hit the man may have been several feet off, or the man may have taken a bullet that otherwise would have hit Trump.

The eyewitness said the man that was hit died instantly, and that he had perhaps 4 to 5 acquaintances/relatives with him. Two of which were in extreme shock.

87 posted on 07/14/2024 12:40:39 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: Calvin Cooledge
"Absolutely true. He’s too far away for them to say “drop your weapon.” They can’t fire until they directly confront him or he fires. I assure you that if you saw someone aiming a gun at you from 100 yards away while you were sitting on your porch, you do not have any legal right to kill them first."

That's wrong. Generally speaking, someone pointing a gun at you can be considered an imminent deadly threat. You do not have to wait for them to pull the trigger before defending yourself with lethal force.

There is no requirement that police tell someone to drop the gun first, if an imminent deadly threat has already presented. They want someone to drop the gun rather than shoot them, sure. But there's no rule of engagement that says they have to say that first, or wait for a shot.

88 posted on 07/14/2024 12:45:51 AM PDT by mlo
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To: 21twelve

To clarify - the two snipers that the video is about did what they could. Why those nearby roof tops were not covered or restricted better, why the local police milled around for 2 to 3 minutes disregarding the eyewitness yelling at them that there was a guy on the roof with a rifle and they did nothing, I have no idea.

Well - as I’m typing, maybe the local police thought it was a SS guy on the roof?

“Hey Bob - this guy says there is a guy with a rifle on the roof!”

“Oh? Probably the SS - they have guys on all of these roofs.”

“But Bob - didn’t they say they would just be at the fairground, and that we would be patrolling out here?”

“That’s what we are doing - I didn’t see anybody. I think it is the SS guys. But if you want, I’ll contact them. Do you recall what frequency they are on?”


89 posted on 07/14/2024 12:49:22 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: Calvin Cooledge

“If you knew anything at all about rules of engagement, the SS is not going to preemptively kill someone who is a potential threat. Legally, they must wait until the gunman opens fire.”


No. Just no. No rules of engagement requires you to take the first bullet before returning fire.


90 posted on 07/14/2024 12:49:48 AM PDT by CFW
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To: Calvin Cooledge

If they were watching the sniper why didn’t they notify agents next to Trump about the threat? Did they just watch the guy crawl into position and say nothing to the people on the ground with Trump? We almost lost Trump today. A gay clown beat the secret service. That’s bullshit.


91 posted on 07/14/2024 1:27:39 AM PDT by Rdct29 (The Democrats Are The New Nazi Party )
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To: HIDEK6
How would an assassin know that the most obvious sniper perch is unguarded?

oops

92 posted on 07/14/2024 1:32:58 AM PDT by SisterK (it's controlled demolition)
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FR Posted on 7/14/2024, 1:08:44 AM by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas


Democrat Bennie Thompson, ranking member, House Committee on Homeland Security

Democrat Bennie Thompson introduced the absurdly named "Denying Infinite Security and Government Resources Allocated toward Convicted and Extremely Dishonorable (DISGRACED) Former Protectees Act (HR 8081)" on April 19, 2024.

Democrat co-sponsors include Reps:
<><>Yvette D. Clarke,
<><>Troy A. Carter Sr.,
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<><>Joyce Beatty,
<><>Barbara Lee,
<><>Steve Cohen

Question: who put these Democraps up to facilitating a Trump assassination?

93 posted on 07/14/2024 1:56:30 AM PDT by Liz (This then is how we should pray : Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name . )
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To: bitt

The bad news is the SS is incompetent ad/or corrupt. The good news is Trump is going to sail into the WH in November.....


94 posted on 07/14/2024 2:16:13 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: wildcard_redneck

Starting?


95 posted on 07/14/2024 2:23:17 AM PDT by combat_boots
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To: Steely Tom

Wasn’t he ex army?

What made anyone think this punk’s aim was that good?

I figured they would recruit someone with a bunch of experience with guns.

But what do I know? :)


96 posted on 07/14/2024 2:36:42 AM PDT by dp0622 (Tried a coup, a fake tax story, tramp slander, Russia nonsense, impeachment and a virus. They lost.)
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To: CFW

I am willing to admit I may be wrong about the SS rules of engagement (they are classified). But I don’t agree it’s a SS conspiracy to let Trump be killed.


97 posted on 07/14/2024 3:10:23 AM PDT by Calvin Cooledge
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To: alexander_busek

I have to agree. Dumb post.


98 posted on 07/14/2024 3:13:24 AM PDT by Calvin Cooledge
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To: Calvin Cooledge

Perhaps, like Cal, you should stay silent.


99 posted on 07/14/2024 3:14:51 AM PDT by Hieronymus ( )
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Dumb post on my part. But not a government hit job.


100 posted on 07/14/2024 3:15:01 AM PDT by Calvin Cooledge
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