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No, President Biden, The Supreme Court Did Not Remove Any Limits On The Presidency
Jonathan Turley ^ | 07/02/2024 | Jonathan Turley

Posted on 07/02/2024 2:11:55 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

President Joe Biden delivered an address from the White House last night on the presidential immunity decision by the Supreme Court. While pledging that he will defend the rule of law, President Biden misrepresented what that law is in the aftermath of Trump v. United States.

While we have often discussed false constitutional claims by the President as well as other false statements, an address of this kind is particularly concerning in misleading citizens on the meaning of one of the most important decisions in history.

As I have previously written, I am not someone who has favored expansive presidential powers. As a Madisonian scholar, I favor Congress in most disputes with presidents. However, I saw good-faith arguments on both sides of this case and the Court adopted a middle road on immunity — rejecting the extreme positions of both the Trump team and the lower court.

One of the most glaring moments in the address came when President Biden declared that “for all…for all practical purposes, today’s decision almost certainly means that there are virtually no limits on what a president can do.”

That is not true.

The Court found that there was absolute immunity for actions that fall within their “exclusive sphere of constitutional authority” while they enjoy presumptive immunity for other official acts. They do not enjoy immunity for unofficial, or private, actions.

The Court has often adopted tiered approaches in balancing the powers of the branches. For example, in his famous concurrence to Youngstown Sheet & Tube Co. v. Sawyer, 343 U.S. 579 (1952), Justice Robert Jackson broke down the line of authority between Congress and the White House into three groups where the President is acting with express or implied authority from Congress; where Congress is silent (“the zone of twilight” area); and where the President is acting in defiance of Congress.

Here the Court separated cases into actions taken in core areas of executive authority, official actions taken outside those core areas, and unofficial actions. Actions deemed personal or unofficial are not protected under this ruling.

It is certainly true that the case affords considerable immunity, including for conversations with subordinates. However, this did not spring suddenly from the head Zeus. As Chief Justice John Roberts lays out in the majority opinion, there has long been robust protections afforded to presidents.

There are also a host of checks and balances on executive authority in our constitutional system. This includes judicial intervention to prevent violations of the law as well as impeachment for high crimes and misdemeanors.

President Biden’s hyper-ventilated response is crushingly ironic. He was vice president when President Barack Obama killed an American citizen without a trial or a charge. When former Attorney General Eric Holder announced the “kill list” policy (that included the right to kill any American citizen), he was met with applause, not condemnation.

The Obama-Biden administration then fought every effort by the family to sue the government. President Biden would have been outraged by any attempt of a Republican district attorney to charge him or President Obama with murder.

He would also be outraged by prosecutors pursuing criminal charges for the deaths associated with the deluge of undocumented persons over the Southern border.

In his address, President Biden also claimed that “the law would no longer” define “the limits of the presidency.”

That is also untrue. This case was remanded for the purpose of defining what of these functions would be deemed private as opposed to official. Even on official actions, former president Donald Trump could be prosecuted if the presumptive immunity is rebutted by prosecutors.

What was most glaring for many civil libertarians was President Biden’s portrayal of himself as a paragon of constitutional fealty. He declared that “I know I will respect the limits of the presidential powers as I have for the last three-and-a-half years.”

That was also untrue. President Biden has racked up an impressive array of losses in federal courts where he was found to have violated the constitution.

This includes rulings that his administration has exceeded his authority and engaged in racial discrimination in federal programs. Indeed, Biden has often displayed a cavalier attitude toward such violations.

For example, the Biden administration was found to have violated the Constitution in its imposition of a nationwide eviction moratorium through the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Biden admitted that his White House counsel and most legal experts told him the move was unconstitutional. But he ignored their advice and went with that of Harvard University Professor Laurence Tribe, the one person who would tell him what he wanted to hear. It was, of course, then quickly found to be unconstitutional.

Biden showed the same disregard over the unconstitutionality of his effort to unilaterally forgive roughly half a trillion dollars in student debt. Courts have already enjoined that effort as presumptively unconstitutional (though an appellate court in one of those cases relaxed aspects of the injunction).

The address was used to reinforce his “democracy is on the ballot” campaign theme. Pundits have repeated the mantra, claiming that if Biden is not elected, American democracy will perish.

While some of us have challenged these predictions, the other presidential candidates are missing a far more compelling argument going into this election. While democracy is not on the ballot this election, free speech is.

For many of us in the free speech community, President Biden has become the most anti-free speech president since John Adams.

As discussed in my new book, “The Indispensable Right: Free Speech in an Age of Rage,” the Biden Administration has helped fund and maintain an unprecedented censorship system in the United States.

That record is hardly supportive for a president claiming to be the defender, if not the savior, of the Constitution.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 25thamendment; biden; immunity; impairedbiden; president; r; scotus

1 posted on 07/02/2024 2:11:55 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The constitution distinguishes between personal acts and acts in furtherance of official duties and the majority simply restates it. Monarchies extend exemptive privilege to all acts of the monarch, both personal and official. It extends to the man, personally and the role whereas constitutional immunity applies exclusively to the office, not personal activities of the man holding it. The three stooges on the dissenting minority disingenuously avoids the distinction with the no one is above the law sloganeering opinion to drag what is a legal case into the political realm and falsely intimating Trump will have kingly powers


2 posted on 07/02/2024 2:17:10 PM PDT by chuckee
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To: SeekAndFind

I happened to see a neighbor in local supermarket parking lot today. He’s a declining and addled former hippy, so I avoid discussing politics, but he insisted on telling me how Trump is now free to create a fascist dictatorship in America.

I told him he needs to stop watching cable TV news, and spend more time outside.

Otherwise, its amazing how quickly and effectively the MSM and left-wing media have spun a tornado-narrative of fear and anxiety among their drones


3 posted on 07/02/2024 2:22:43 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88
its amazing how quickly and effectively the MSM and left-wing media have spun a tornado-narrative of fear and anxiety among their drones

None, or at least few, have taken to time to read the decision or even to check some counter points to those media they follow. As the old saying goes, useful idiots

4 posted on 07/02/2024 2:30:56 PM PDT by llevrok (“In a time of deceit telling, the truth is a revolutionary act.” ― George Orwell)
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To: SeekAndFind

But, but, but he finished top of his class while driving a semi part time and life guarding and getting jailed for trying to get to political prisoner nellie mandellie and teaching his daughter sex Ed in the shower and.......


5 posted on 07/02/2024 2:35:17 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: PGR88

I have encountered that same phenomenon in former union coworkers, i have since retired.


6 posted on 07/02/2024 2:36:02 PM PDT by exnavy
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To: SeekAndFind

Joek Biden worried that Trump will do to Joek what Joek is doing to Trump.


7 posted on 07/02/2024 2:40:52 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (A vote for Biden in 2024 is a vote for President Kamala Harris in 2025.)
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To: PGR88

You simply cannot reason with humans of that mentality.
Like asking what their life was like under the 4 years Trump already served as President, and how many Americans were herded into thought prisons or concentration camps?


8 posted on 07/02/2024 2:48:15 PM PDT by silverleaf (“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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To: SeekAndFind

Rule of Law...well....except for Student Loans, Immigration, funding abortions, etc etc.


9 posted on 07/02/2024 2:54:37 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: SeekAndFind

10 posted on 07/02/2024 3:52:00 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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To: SeekAndFind

But Joe graduated top of his class from Harvard Law School./s


11 posted on 07/02/2024 3:58:05 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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To: rktman

A Renaissance man indeed. Thomas Jefferson, Leonard DaVinci, Maimonides, Elon Musk, move over. Brandon is a multi-faceted liar.


12 posted on 07/02/2024 4:03:38 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s simple... When dealing with known liars, expect nothing but lies. Biden and this regime are known liars, they tell nothing but lies. His speech was full of lies.


13 posted on 07/02/2024 4:51:59 PM PDT by Bullish (...And just like that, I was dropped from the ping-list)
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To: SeekAndFind

MISREPRESENTATION IS WHAT JOE HAS THE LONGEST PRACTICE DOING


14 posted on 07/02/2024 5:01:43 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: SeekAndFind

This has always been on the books so he should know it... oh, never mind.


15 posted on 07/02/2024 6:32:37 PM PDT by bgill (.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Presidents have always had this immunity.


16 posted on 07/02/2024 9:45:12 PM PDT by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: SeekAndFind

He wishes


17 posted on 07/03/2024 7:14:49 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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