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When OHSA unilaterally mandated that tens of millions of private sector workers take the COVID shot or wear masks, appellate courts cited the Chevron doctrine for allowing it People don’t understand how important it is that Chevron deference is dead
X twitter ^ | Jun 28, 2024 | Gregg Re

Posted on 06/28/2024 6:08:00 PM PDT by george76

When OHSA unilaterally mandated that tens of millions of private sector workers take the COVID shot or wear masks, appellate courts cited the Chevron doctrine for allowing it

People don’t understand how important it is that Chevron deference is dead


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KEYWORDS: chevron; chevrondeference; chevrondoctrine; covid; covidshot; deepstate; doctrine; mandated; masks; ohsa; ohsamandated; regulatorystate; scotus; shot
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To: george76
I’m not disputing what you’re saying, because everybody’s different. I have autoimmune disease, had a liver transplant, and I’m on two different immunosuppressants. I had 3 of the COVID shots, and I really don’t feel any different. I have a few aches and pains, but I’ll be 70 next week, so there’s that.

I’m NOT getting any more of those shots; I made that clear to my doctors. I do need to get the shingles vaccine.

41 posted on 06/29/2024 5:05:28 AM PDT by telescope115 (I NEED MY SPACE!!! 🔭)
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To: old curmudgeon

My hope is that a Trump Administration will END most of these unconstitutional agencies. No need for years of lawsuits.


42 posted on 06/29/2024 5:06:47 AM PDT by Twotone
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To: george76

Let me help you

NYC Mayor de Blasio ordered kids over five to show proof of obedience to him for indoor activities and mandated obedience to him for ALL private sector workers .. ‎


43 posted on 06/29/2024 5:07:23 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
F OSHA.…

My Dad was saying that 50 years ago. Every time he turned around they were snooping around, looking for “violations”.

44 posted on 06/29/2024 5:08:49 AM PDT by telescope115 (I NEED MY SPACE!!! 🔭)
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To: george76

They cited the Chevron case since it was the most convenient vehicle. In the future they will just cite something else.


45 posted on 06/29/2024 5:21:05 AM PDT by ARW
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To: george76

Chevron may be dead.

But all it will take for the control to come back is a Congessional vote passing it.

Anyone really think Congress will refuse to do that...?


46 posted on 06/29/2024 5:24:39 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: ARW

Or Deep State will just have its pet Congress pass it.

Keep in mind, even if Trump wins, Deep State will still have control of Congress, the SCOTUS, and the bureaucracy.

At least for a time.


47 posted on 06/29/2024 5:26:13 AM PDT by mewzilla (Never give up; never surrender!)
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To: WASCWatch

Exactly what law are you referring to?


48 posted on 06/29/2024 5:30:46 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: old curmudgeon
I don’t think we can predict at this point where this will end, but....

There will be thousands of court cases against everything from the EPA to the ATF with the claim that they are making laws.

It will go on for years.

My prediction: The deep state bureaucracies will still make up the law as they deem fit, and aggrieved parties will still have to sue the government for redress. The difference under this ruling is that the federal judge must no longer defer to the deep state’s interpretation of the law, but must exercise its own judgment. Libtard judges will still exercise their judgment in favor of the deep state bureaucracies, but they no longer have to.

49 posted on 06/29/2024 5:34:04 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: george76
Amen. This is Wonderful. This is Huge going forward.The Deference that has been used by various agencies, in so many disgusting ways against normal, hardworking Americans can now be fought against.

The gestapo tactics have just had an arrow shot through its heart. Now more cowering when federal agents coming in and say "You must obey or you will loose everything."


50 posted on 06/29/2024 5:42:19 AM PDT by Kalam (The Qonjurer)
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To: george76

The SCOTUS is lawyer well fare. American attorneys will spend the next two decades in court arguing over the ramifications.

For instance, America and especially North Carolina lost the furniture industry. A primary reason was the EPA prohibition of finish solvents. Water based solvents were demanded but the public wouldn’t buy the furniture with the poor finish.

Noe then all the furniture maker stock holders can sue the EPA for damages


51 posted on 06/29/2024 5:52:40 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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To: WASCWatch

Wascwatch wrote:


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There is no law that requires individuals who exchange their labor for money.
...

Can you clarify?


52 posted on 06/29/2024 6:18:28 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((the more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.) )
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To: cherry

the problem with justice is people get away with high crimes a long time before its found out about and reversed....
the damage has been done...
*****
The sad truth.


53 posted on 06/29/2024 6:28:13 AM PDT by yldstrk ( )
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To: WASCWatch

There is no law that requires individuals who exchange their labor for money.
*********
Not sure what you mean but I want to know.


54 posted on 06/29/2024 6:30:41 AM PDT by yldstrk ( )
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To: george76

Overturning the Chevron doctrine is just the start of recovering and restoring our Free Constitutional Republic. (We were created to be a “Republic” - a decentralized and representative gov’t, not a “Democracy” - a centralized tyranny of the majority.)

The Chevron doctrine is the tip of the iceberg. 80+% of the federal gov’t is unconstitutional. Among other things, the entire so-called Admirative or Regulatory State is unconstitutional.

Too many people don’t understand what unconstitutional means. The Constitution CREATED the federal government and DELEGATED LIMITED ENUMERATED POWERS to the federal government. If it’s not an enumerated power delegated by the Constitution to the feds, it is no a valid federal power.

A constitutional gov’t, what we had until the 1900’s, means the gov’t is relatively small honoring the constitutional protection of individual rights against the gov’t. A constitutional gov’t is when the gov’t is afraid of the people.

An unconstitutional gov’t, what we have now, has no bounds and violates individual rights for “gov’t interest” becoming as now, totalitarian threating the lives, liberties, and wellbeing of the people. An unconstitutional gov’t is when the people are afraid of the gov’t.


55 posted on 06/29/2024 6:50:24 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: WASCWatch; yldstrk; WildHighlander57

Overturning the Chevron doctrine is just the start of recovering and restoring our Free Constitutional Republic. (We were created to be a “Republic” - a decentralized and representative gov’t, not a “Democracy” - a centralized tyranny of the majority.)

The Chevron doctrine is the tip of the iceberg. 80+% of the federal gov’t is unconstitutional. Among other things, the entire so-called Admirative or Regulatory State is unconstitutional.

Too many people don’t understand what unconstitutional means. The Constitution CREATED the federal government and DELEGATED LIMITED ENUMERATED POWERS to the federal government. If it’s not an enumerated power delegated by the Constitution to the feds, it is no a valid federal power.

The presumption of God-given individual rights, not “gov’t rights”, is in the oft-ignored Declaration of Independence which is persuasive authority to the Constitution inasmuch as it helps to explain constitutional presumptions.

A constitutional gov’t, what we had until the 1900’s, means the gov’t is relatively small honoring the constitutional protection of individual rights against the gov’t. A constitutional gov’t is when the gov’t is afraid of the people.

An unconstitutional gov’t, what we have now, has no bounds and violates individual rights for “gov’t interest” becoming as now, totalitarian threating the lives, liberties, and wellbeing of the people. An unconstitutional gov’t is when the people are afraid of the gov’t.

Under a truly constitutional, small (except military pointed to foreign nations not to its own people) federal gov’t, the IRS would be a storefront.


56 posted on 06/29/2024 7:01:50 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Jim W N

EXACTLY! States have rights. The federal government has enumerated powers. Someday I will number them out for my own edification.


57 posted on 06/29/2024 7:12:04 AM PDT by yldstrk ( )
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To: Jim W N

Enumerate powers of the federal government from wikipedia:

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish a uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and Post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offenses against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings; And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

Article III, Section 3 of the United States Constitution:

The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

Article IV, Section 3 of the United States Constitution:

New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State.

Amendment XVI of the United States Constitution:

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.

Amendment XX, Section 3 of the United States Constitution:

The Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

Amendment XX, Section 4 of the United States Constitution:

The Congress may by law provide for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the House of Representatives may choose a President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them, and for the case of the death of any of the persons from whom the Senate may choose a Vice President whenever the right of choice shall have devolved upon them.


58 posted on 06/29/2024 7:22:40 AM PDT by yldstrk ( )
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To: yldstrk

To summarize, the LIMITED powers delegated by the states and the people to the federal gov’t via the Constitution are mostly in Article I, Section 8.


59 posted on 06/29/2024 7:25:59 AM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: george76

The Chevron Doctrine is Dead but three years too late.


60 posted on 06/29/2024 7:33:41 AM PDT by Candor7 (Ask not for whom the Trump Trolls,He trolls for thee!),<img src="" width=500</img><a href="">tag</a>)
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