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Trump May Have Done Too Much Winning Tonight
National Review ^ | June 28, 2024 | Michael Brendan Doughterty

Posted on 06/27/2024 9:05:15 PM PDT by JOHN ADAMS

Right now, MSNBC and CNN post-debate panels are openly talking about options for pressuring Biden to withdraw, or party officials conspiring to replace him at the convention anyway.

I truly believe that convention drama is usually energizing for a party, not demoralizing. And the selection between Kamala Harris and Gavin Newsom would allow Democrats to feel like the party of the future again, rather than a party litigating a recent past that voters hated.

If Biden’s bad performance really does lead to his departure from the race, Republicans will miss him.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
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I'm eager to hear Freepers' views on whether this is right. I don't want to sound like a nervous Nelly, but I think the Democrats can only improve their chances by unloading Biden. Any Democratic administration will, in practice, be run by the same fascists and narcissists who currently populate the executive branch. So the country is best off with the Democratic candidate who is most likely to lose. My sense is that Biden is that candidate. Thoughts.
1 posted on 06/27/2024 9:05:15 PM PDT by JOHN ADAMS
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To: JOHN ADAMS

Any replacement would get an undeserved big bump out of the convention and then go into freefall, ultimately losing at least as badly as Biden would have.


2 posted on 06/27/2024 9:08:17 PM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: JOHN ADAMS

I’ve been saying all along that I hoped that Biden did well enough to make it to the Democrat Convention. That way, they probably wouldn’t dump him. Then, if he wandered off the stage confused in the second debate, that would be okay with me.


3 posted on 06/27/2024 9:08:28 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands
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To: JOHN ADAMS

Kamala is already talking about Biden in the past tense...


4 posted on 06/27/2024 9:08:49 PM PDT by GOPJ (Think of the campaign slogans ... “He ruined California, now it’s America’s turn!” Freeper Campion)
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To: JOHN ADAMS

It didn’t help McGovern when he dumped Tom Eagleton, and it won’t help the Democrats if they dump Biden.


5 posted on 06/27/2024 9:09:32 PM PDT by rxh4n1 ( )
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To: JOHN ADAMS

I am in the camp that thinks a massive economic meltdown is going to hit no matter who is in office. The Dems might be willing to let Biden lose, knowing Trump would be in office when the austerity and/or depression hits...then for two years the lawsuits and lawfare continues, then they hit back hard at the midterms and take both houses.


6 posted on 06/27/2024 9:09:42 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: JOHN ADAMS

One more thing: 25th Amendment. Wait for it.

Oh, and elder abuse. There are definitely some of his close associates and family who should be ashamed of himself.


7 posted on 06/27/2024 9:10:06 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands
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To: JOHN ADAMS

Yes, 4+ months is an absolute eternity in American media political reporting.

The MSM working in overdrive can make all of America think they have known Gavin Gruesome or Kamala for their entire lives.

By late October they’ll have Americans thinking “who was that Joe Biden guy you mentioned?”


8 posted on 06/27/2024 9:11:00 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: JOHN ADAMS

ok, first they were always going to drop Biden

that’s no suprise

this debate was planned to justify the move to their base and build sympathy

i really thought it was going to be a fake medical emergency which had much more sympathy vote potential

they have to convince Jill to leave, that’s going to be difficult


9 posted on 06/27/2024 9:11:21 PM PDT by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh
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No matter what the whisper campaign suggests, the Democrats are stuck with Joe Biden—a president whose disaster debate performance is only overshadowed by an even worse presidency.

President Trump was dialed in and is ready to deliver on his vision to MAGA.— Taylor Budowich (@TayFromCA) June 27, 2024


10 posted on 06/27/2024 9:13:34 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: JOHN ADAMS

Skipped the debate. Is the characterization in this story true?


11 posted on 06/27/2024 9:15:56 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Certified smarter than average for my species)
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To: WeaslesRippedMyFlesh

The Bidens need to fight back—they have the delegates and have earned the nomination.

Any Democrat that says otherwise is an insurrectionist and an enemy of our democracy—and should expect a visit from a FBI SWAT team if they keep it up...

Lol.


12 posted on 06/27/2024 9:15:58 PM PDT by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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To: JOHN ADAMS

Keep that narcissist A-H Newsom away from the White House! He’d be even worsr than Bidet.


13 posted on 06/27/2024 9:16:42 PM PDT by beethovenfan (The REAL Great Reset will be when Jesus returns. )
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To: AndyTheBear

Yep. Elder abuse. Sad. It was embarrassing.


14 posted on 06/27/2024 9:18:45 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands
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To: JOHN ADAMS
I'm eager to hear Freepers' views on whether this is right.

I watched it on CNN and in within the first minute of post-debate discussion, I felt the panel had already rehearsed their faux shocked expressions and comments.

No politically aware person could be surprised that Biden is cognitively impaired.

15 posted on 06/27/2024 9:19:16 PM PDT by fso301
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1) Nothing is happening until there is a new cycle of polling. Not of who won the debate. Of presidential preference.

2) If the loss in that poll is minor, he’s not being replaced. And it is very hard to get a major move when most of his support is anti Trump, not pro Biden.

3) And there is entirely too much talk about how much time until election day. Many states are voting in September.


16 posted on 06/27/2024 9:20:43 PM PDT by Owen (.)
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To: WeaslesRippedMyFlesh
they have to convince Jill to leave, that’s going to be difficult

Not really. All it takes is money.

17 posted on 06/27/2024 9:21:52 PM PDT by HIDEK6 (God bless Donald Trump)
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To: PGR88

Joe is not going anywhere Jill will not allow that to happen. Newscum and kami are not liked outside if calif. Besides ballots are already being printed by the states. Oh don’t think the crats can cheat to 300 million votes. It’s the economy stupid


18 posted on 06/27/2024 9:22:09 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: JOHN ADAMS

Bobby Kennedy jr, the only person who can be competitive against Trump without massive fraud, but they won’t allow it because of his anti-vaxx stance.


19 posted on 06/27/2024 9:22:29 PM PDT by Greg123456
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To: fso301

I watched it on CNN and in within the first minute of post-debate discussion, I felt the panel had already rehearsed their faux shocked expressions and comments.


Yep. It was all staged. It’s one reason the dems requested an early debate. They planned to pull the plug.


20 posted on 06/27/2024 9:22:57 PM PDT by boycott
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